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The Diamond Club [MiniPhalla]: DAY 6 -- Death On The Flop

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    Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    I count 16 cards in the deck, incidentally.

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    KilnagaKilnaga Registered User regular
    Jdarksun for the crime of still being alive.

    "The psychedelic mind is a higher dimensional mind, it is not fit for three dimensional space time."
    - Terence McKenna
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    LucedesLucedes might be real Registered User regular
    kilnaga for the crime of shooting first!

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    SaberOverEasySaberOverEasy Info Broker Registered User regular
    Can we have links to each day's narration in the OP please!

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    InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    Links to each day's narration, for Gandalf's use:

    Day 1

    Day 2

    Generalísimo de Fuerzas Armadas de la República Argentina
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    Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    The OP has been altered. Pray I do not alter it further.

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    InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    edited January 2013
    Courtesy mostly of OminousLozenge:

    DAY 2 - 23 Players
    (7) Typhus733 - Mill, Kilnaga, OminousLozenge, Mikey CTS, premium, SaberOverEasy, jdarksun
    (3) Kilnaga - stever777, Smasher, CesareB
    (2) stever777- TheRoadVirus, Egos
    (2) Mill - Baidol, Typhus733
    (1) blahmcblah - Lucedes
    (1) CesareB - blahmcblah
    (1) Egos - Macallan
    (1) Lucedes - The Anonymous
    (1) Invictus - ObiFett
    (1) Baidol - Invictus

    DAY 1 - 25 Players
    (5) Cythraul - Lucedes, stever777, SLyM, OminousLozenge, SaberOverEasy
    (4) Baidol - premium, Invictus, Smasher, Cythraul
    (3) premium - TheRoadVirus, Baidol, Macallan
    (3) Mill - KetBra, CesareB, MrTLicious
    (2) KetBra- Mill, Typhus733
    (1) CesareB - Macallan, ObiFett
    (1) SLyM - Kilnaga
    (1) Lucedes - The Anonymous
    (1) Macallan - jdarksun
    (1) stever777- Egos
    (1) TheRoadVirus- Mikey CTS, MrTLicious
    (0) Smasher - Cythraull
    (0) Smoove Operator - OminousLozenge
    {No votes: Smoove Operator, blahmcblah]

    Out
    Cythraul -- Flushed
    MrTLicious -- Sitting this one out
    Typhus733 -- Flushed
    premium -- Sitting this one out
    KetBra -- Trumped
    stever777, CHEATER -- Trumped
    TheRoadVirus -- Trumped

    EDITed: to add color codes.

    Invictus on
    Generalísimo de Fuerzas Armadas de la República Argentina
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    OminousLozengeOminousLozenge Registered User regular
    Make it pretty, Invictus. Do it. Do it now!

    I was gonna color code the dead in at lunch... unless the color coding doesn't help much in a non-faction game? What do people think?

    Sometimes I have ideas for things.
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    InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    I was literally doing it as you posted.

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    InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    Is it true that no one changed their vote on Day 2? I didn't go back to check, I just copy-pasted what you had.

    Generalísimo de Fuerzas Armadas de la República Argentina
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    OminousLozengeOminousLozenge Registered User regular
    That's the way it looks. Very clean voting day. Almost... too clean.

    Sometimes I have ideas for things.
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    Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    Our reserve has reminded me that he exists, and could have been put in for Smoove last night.

    He'll go in tonight if there's any inactives. Just wanted to make sure everyone understands it represents a failure of memory on my part, not a decision to Inactivus villagers and replace mafia or something redonculous like that.

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    InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    @Baidol why did you and your compatriots vig KetBra?

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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    I wanted to kill Kilnaga, but the other guy preferred to kill someone less active.

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    InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    Well, given what happened in the newbie phalla, I can certainly sympathize with that.

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    Mikey CTSMikey CTS Registered User regular
    Invictus wrote: »
    Well, given what happened in the newbie phalla, I can certainly sympathize with that.

    I'll second that shame. :?

    // PSN: wyrd_warrior // MHW Name: Josei //
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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    OminousLozenge

    Steam Overwatch: Baidol#1957
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    ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    I still can't shake the feeling that Invictus is mafia

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    OminousLozengeOminousLozenge Registered User regular
    Baidol wrote: »
    OminousLozenge

    Just for that, I'm gonna make Invictus count the votes today. That'll learn ya!

    Sometimes I have ideas for things.
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    CesareBCesareB Registered User regular
    Jdarksun is being awfully quiet...

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    OminousLozengeOminousLozenge Registered User regular
    Jdarksun, you don't call, you don't write... but there's still time.

    Sometimes I have ideas for things.
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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
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    OminousLozengeOminousLozenge Registered User regular
    Are... are you grudging me?
    *sob*
    This is what it's come to!

    Sometimes I have ideas for things.
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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    Not even a little bit. But you're voting for me instead of anyone else, and I can influence you by voting for you.

    Example: If we both voted for Kilnaga, neither you nor I would be in first.

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    SaberOverEasySaberOverEasy Info Broker Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Not even a little bit. But you're voting for me instead of anyone else, and I can influence you by voting for you.

    Example: If we both voted for Kilnaga, neither you nor I would be in first.

    The classic "It's in both of our self-interest so this is a totally defensible vote switch" ploy, eh jdarksun

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    OminousLozengeOminousLozenge Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Not even a little bit. But you're voting for me instead of anyone else, and I can influence you by voting for you.

    Example: If we both voted for Kilnaga, neither you nor I would be in first.

    But that's extortion!
    .
    .
    .
    I approve.

    Sometimes I have ideas for things.
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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Not even a little bit. But you're voting for me instead of anyone else, and I can influence you by voting for you.

    Example: If we both voted for Kilnaga, neither you nor I would be in first.

    The classic "It's in both of our self-interest so this is a totally defensible vote switch" ploy, eh jdarksun

    Ah, so you're evil this game? I had been wondering.

    jdarksun on
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    OminousLozengeOminousLozenge Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Ah, so you're evil this game? I had been wondering.

    Nah, just in life. Someone called me a mercenary bastard once. I didn't see the insult in that.

    Sometimes I have ideas for things.
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    Mikey CTSMikey CTS Registered User regular
    jdark because grudge!



    Also because I don't approve of his blatant extortion tactics.

    // PSN: wyrd_warrior // MHW Name: Josei //
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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Ah, so you're evil this game? I had been wondering.
    Nah, just in life. Someone called me a mercenary bastard once. I didn't see the insult in that.
    Not you, SoE. We talk from time to time, and this is one of the times that our conversations made me think he's evil.

    SoE undercut the attempt anyway, but I'm still happy to switch off to somebody else to save my bacon.

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    SaberOverEasySaberOverEasy Info Broker Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Ah, so you're evil this game? I had been wondering.
    Nah, just in life. Someone called me a mercenary bastard once. I didn't see the insult in that.
    Not you, SoE. We talk from time to time, and this is one of the times that our conversations made me think he's evil.

    SoE undercut the attempt anyway, but I'm still happy to switch off to somebody else to save my bacon.

    Ironically enough, I was thinking the exact same thing about you. But this is day 3, if you're a villager, you should be able to come up with someone that you think is more suspicious than you. Blatantly bargaining to get the vote off is fine on day 1 where there's really nothing, but at this point I think you can do better.

    The alternative is that you just don't think you're ever going to beat a bandwagon and want to avoid giving the village any information when you do eventually turn up mafia.

    You have been a little more quiet than usual, though I suppose that could also be you working with a different group than I am right now.

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    InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    On that note:

    Day 3:

    jdarksun: Kilnaga, CesareB, OminousLozenge, SaberoverEasy, MikeyCTS
    Kilnaga: Lucedes
    OminousLozenge: Baidol, jdarksun
    Invictus: Obifett

    I think that's up to date.

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    InvictusInvictus Registered User regular
    For the record, I am totally supposed to be writing today.

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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    edited January 2013
    But this is day 3, if you're a villager, you should be able to come up with someone that you think is more suspicious than you.
    Nah, that's not how this works - you know that better than anyone. Nobody sheds votes, they just continue building up until you get voted out.

    Let's look at the bandwagon so far for anything approaching reason:
    Kilnaga wrote: »
    Jdarksun for the crime of still being alive.
    Hm. "Still being alive"? How dare I.
    CesareB wrote: »
    Jdarksun is being awfully quiet...
    Being quiet! Gasp! Because in Dishonored, I was super quiet as the serial killer.
    Jdarksun, you don't call, you don't write... but there's still time.
    No reasoning here.
    The classic "It's in both of our self-interest so this is a totally defensible vote switch" ploy, eh jdarksun
    Surely you'll have a... nope. No reasoning there.
    Mikey CTS wrote: »
    jdark because grudge!



    Also because I don't approve of his blatant extortion tactics.
    Oh, a grudge vote. That is totally more reasonable that bargaining to get a wagon off you.


    I mean, it's totally fine that you're evil this game. Fiyarn used the same tactics in Dishonored to try to draw focus away from the fact that his "logic" and "reasoning" was totally empty.

    There is literally no substance to the wagon, so anyone else - like Kilnaga or OminousLozenge - fills your someone "more suspicious than [me]" criterion.

    jdarksun on
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    OminousLozengeOminousLozenge Registered User regular
    Or maybe it's day 3 and we're already down by 1/3 our original number with only a single crummy mafia kill to our names. So people need a scapegoat. But now voting for you is so 30 minutes ago. At this point an RNG vote is probably more likely to net us a cheater.

    Oh, that reminds me of when SLyM cheated on all of us last night with LoL!

    Sometimes I have ideas for things.
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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    At this point an RNG vote is probably more likely to net us a cheater.
    Incorrect. People piling on the jdark wagon? More likely to be mafia. Caesar, SoE, and Mikey. Bonus points if you are, too.

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    OminousLozengeOminousLozenge Registered User regular
    Don't math my hyperbole, mister!

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    KilnagaKilnaga Registered User regular
    I can give the wagon some more substance if you'd like.

    The mafia killed MrT Day 1. Really, the only reason a mafia would do that is because they're scared of his potential to use his mathmagic and break the game/discover who they are. You and I have both been on the receiving end of MrT's mathmagic before when he's figured out the entire mafia. You are just as capable of doing the same. We've also seen that before. If the mafia was going to go out of their way to remove somebody like MrT, why not remove you as well for the same reason? My bet is because you're one of the mafia.

    "The psychedelic mind is a higher dimensional mind, it is not fit for three dimensional space time."
    - Terence McKenna
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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    Bad presupposition: this game can be broken by math. If it was, I'd be all over it.

    You could theoretically catch someone lying about their card by doing a role call and telling people to play their cards in a certain manner, but I hate role calls and play suggestions have caused people to quit out of frustration.

    SoE should have some good data about who has which cards.

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    CesareBCesareB Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    At this point an RNG vote is probably more likely to net us a cheater.
    Incorrect. People piling on the jdark wagon? More likely to be mafia. Caesar, SoE, and Mikey. Bonus points if you are, too.

    I'm as surprised as anyone that people piled onto you. I suppose it's possible that others have more info than I but it seems very early in the day for a wagon to gain quite so much traction. Jdarksun while I think over the implications...

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