any time anyone says american history x all i can think of is the edit where someone strung a bunch of scenes with inappropriate music stuck in and that one's is the mario death music
No one really knows, Morgoth probably made them? They're probably uplifted beasts, I seem to recall Tolkien talking about other animals getting uplifted but I might be getting confused with C.S. Lewis. Hmm, I am 90% sure that was Lewis in Voyage to Perelandra not Tolkien.
I dunno?
It's weird because they are clearly intelligent yet Eru is meant to be the only one able to create sentient beings, thus the Orcs are corruptions, not creations. Because Morgoth cannot create life. But the dragons are a little trickier as they aren't a sentient (in a human sense) race. Talking or sentient animals in Middle Earth aren't uncommon, but I think they are not sentient in the same way that Elves and Men (and Dwarves) are.
So dragons would be highly intelligent animals corrupted to the service of Morgoth. That's my guess, but the real answer would be that, like Orcs, there is no answer.
ShelobUngoliant, parent of Shelob isn't a demi-god, she's some kind of chaos beasty.
Yeah, Arda just says "Mighty reptilian creatures who ranked among the most feared of the servants of the Dark Lord. Of the origins of dragons, no tale tells; the first of them to be seen was Glaurung, Father of Dragons, who issued from Angband in the middle of the First Age."
No one really knows, Morgoth probably made them? They're probably uplifted beasts, I seem to recall Tolkien talking about other animals getting uplifted but I might be getting confused with C.S. Lewis. Hmm, I am 90% sure that was Lewis in Voyage to Perelandra not Tolkien.
I dunno?
It's weird because they are clearly intelligent yet Eru is meant to be the only one able to create sentient beings, thus the Orcs are corruptions, not creations. Because Morgoth cannot create life. But the dragons are a little trickier as they aren't a sentient (in a human sense) race. Talking or sentient animals in Middle Earth aren't uncommon, but I think they are not sentient in the same way that Elves and Men (and Dwarves) are.
So dragons would be highly intelligent animals corrupted to the service of Morgoth. That's my guess, but the real answer would be that, like Orcs, there is no answer.
ShelobUngoliant, parent of Shelob isn't a demi-god, she's some kind of chaos beasty.
Ungoliant was crazy pants. Snuffed out the trees in Valinor, turned on Morgoth and would have killed him if he hadn't summoned every single Balrog to save his ass, and mother to every giant ass spider in Middle Earth.
Just watched 5 armies; it was a lot of fun. The bits of it that were The Hobbit were well done, even though there weren't many of those, and the action was entertaining due to not being the no-stakes mild peril of the second film. Also Alfred was a boss, my friends and I were all rooting for him.
Does it? It's got some neat scenes but as a whole movie does it really hold up?
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So I enjoyed Five Armies but it was absolutely the weakest of the three
Way too many action scenes and not enough focus on Thorin going nuts as i would have liked, could have had a way more satisfying epilogue and a little more of Beorn being a badass would have been welcome
It didn't have nearly as satisfying of an ending as either of the previous two(yes, including the cliffhanger of the last one) but i suppose being a prequel series makes that hard.
It felt like this movie had the right length but kept focusing on the wrong things, to me any way.
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Does it? It's got some neat scenes but as a whole movie does it really hold up?
Yeah, it does. I got it for christmas this year and watched it the other night. It's a little rushed, but it hits all the important stuff well, especially Golum and the riddles. And the soundtrack is still wonderful.
Plus it has that old fashioned Rankin/Bass animation style that I never get tired of.
I'm gonna watch the Ralph Bakshi Lord of the Rings and the Rankin/Bass Return of the King later this week when my brother has time to sit down and watch them with me. I remember those two significantly less than The Hobbit.
Right, I have the opposite opinion of Rankin/Bass. It's got some good scenes but for me they are in spite of the animation style rather than because of it.
My favorite parts of Five Armies was the mounts. Sweet ass boar mount, sure. Amazing killer stag mount, sign me up. Adorable fat little hopping ram mounts, give me ten right now!
It's cheap and rushed, and super dated these days, but at least it doesn't waste any time with stupid bullshit.
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What's the deal with Gandalf?
Is Gandalf just holding back? Is he too afraid to go all out all the time or else he'll become corrupt? Is there a leash on Gandalf that prevents him on going all out?
Cause I thought the Wizards are like 'archangels' compare to Sauron 'seraphim'.
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The Wizards are Maiar, which is the same "level" as Sauron.
“I was quick when I came in here, I’m twice as quick now”
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
Gandalf and the other wizards are under orders not to openly match Sauron's power with their own but to guide and advise the people of Middle-Earth to unite and defeat Sauron
The Valar had directly intervened several times in the past but it always went poorly for the people
Right, I have the opposite opinion of Rankin/Bass. It's got some good scenes but for me they are in spite of the animation style rather than because of it.
Yeah, I really like the movie but I hate the animation and art style. Which seems like a weird contradiction but it is what it is.
Gandalf and the other wizards are under orders not to openly match Sauron's power with their own but to guide and advise the people of Middle-Earth to unite and defeat Sauron
The Valar had directly intervened several times in the past but it always went poorly for the people
And also just as an additional reason gandalf is explicitly the weakest in terms of power of all the Wizards. He is just also the wisest.
Gandalf and the other wizards are under orders not to openly match Sauron's power with their own but to guide and advise the people of Middle-Earth to unite and defeat Sauron
The Valar had directly intervened several times in the past but it always went poorly for the people
And also just as an additional reason gandalf is explicitly the weakest in terms of power of all the Wizards. He is just also the wisest.
Dragons are like, literally the counterparts to Eagles. The "might spirits" of beasties like Gwaihir and Thorondor were tit-for-tatted by Morgoth. They're not "created" in the sense that Morgoth imbues them with being or anything like that.
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The Balrog and Shelob and stuff are demigods like the wizards right
what about dragons?
I dunno?
It's weird because they are clearly intelligent yet Eru is meant to be the only one able to create sentient beings, thus the Orcs are corruptions, not creations. Because Morgoth cannot create life. But the dragons are a little trickier as they aren't a sentient (in a human sense) race. Talking or sentient animals in Middle Earth aren't uncommon, but I think they are not sentient in the same way that Elves and Men (and Dwarves) are.
So dragons would be highly intelligent animals corrupted to the service of Morgoth. That's my guess, but the real answer would be that, like Orcs, there is no answer.
ShelobUngoliant, parent of Shelob isn't a demi-god, she's some kind of chaos beasty.
Ungoliant was crazy pants. Snuffed out the trees in Valinor, turned on Morgoth and would have killed him if he hadn't summoned every single Balrog to save his ass, and mother to every giant ass spider in Middle Earth.
Some decent character bits up front, competent setup, and then 90 minutes of insane bullshit
The Rankin/Bass animated Hobbit movie still totally holds up.
It didn't have nearly as satisfying of an ending as either of the previous two(yes, including the cliffhanger of the last one) but i suppose being a prequel series makes that hard.
It felt like this movie had the right length but kept focusing on the wrong things, to me any way.
Yeah, it does. I got it for christmas this year and watched it the other night. It's a little rushed, but it hits all the important stuff well, especially Golum and the riddles. And the soundtrack is still wonderful.
Plus it has that old fashioned Rankin/Bass animation style that I never get tired of.
I'm gonna watch the Ralph Bakshi Lord of the Rings and the Rankin/Bass Return of the King later this week when my brother has time to sit down and watch them with me. I remember those two significantly less than The Hobbit.
I seriously love that movie so much
I own the DVD.
It's cheap and rushed, and super dated these days, but at least it doesn't waste any time with stupid bullshit.
Is Gandalf just holding back? Is he too afraid to go all out all the time or else he'll become corrupt? Is there a leash on Gandalf that prevents him on going all out?
Cause I thought the Wizards are like 'archangels' compare to Sauron 'seraphim'.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
I named a cat Melkor once, poor guy got really sick when he was 3 though
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
The Valar had directly intervened several times in the past but it always went poorly for the people
Yeah, I really like the movie but I hate the animation and art style. Which seems like a weird contradiction but it is what it is.
Fly, you fool.
Making the world round instead of flat and submerging most of a continent definitely qualifies as "less than thrilled".
And also just as an additional reason gandalf is explicitly the weakest in terms of power of all the Wizards. He is just also the wisest.
Until he goes SSJ White Wizard at least.
Plot? Who needs plot! More elves with swords please!!
Also Galadriel is a badass lady and I want to be her when I grow up