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WankWank Registered User regular
Okay, so I don't do much with horror, but here is my stab at it.
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  • WankWank Registered User regular
    Part 2:
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    And if you made it to the end, congratulations. Please tell me how to make the characters more relatable / interesting / likeable, and how to make their relationship seem more real. Thanks!

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  • tapeslingertapeslinger utter Yog-Sothothery mmm, soulsRegistered User regular
    Quick nitpick: Tupperware is a brand name of a plastic/rubber container maker, not glass; the name is misappropriated to reference most portable containers. I would swap it out for Pyrex.

    Overall - - I liked this a lot, actually. I feel like the relationship stuff is probably as good as it's getting for a story like this. The only thing I think is that, while the reveal should be startling, the story takes so long to get to the revelation that I think some of the tension gets extended beyond the point where the reader is surprised at what happens. It's tough to strike a balance between "something weird is happening, wait and see," and "something bad is happening, adrenaline rush!" and I think you do all right with that aspect but it needs... Something. I don't know if the big reveal is impactful enough, but then, I was was expecting a wendigo or some kind of ice vampire from the first frostbite mention.

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  • WankWank Registered User regular
    Thanks for the read, tape. I think Jeff also mentioned the story taking too long to get going. Are there any cuts you'd like to see made in the first half?

    EDIT: Also, title ideas?

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  • RedSocialKnightRedSocialKnight Registered User new member
    I like it. I don't think you have to worry about the central characters or the relationship - they're strong. The mother is a little central-casting in the first phone conversation, which is a problem because we have to take her seriously in the final scene.

    I would cut two pieces of language: "crenellated" and "Cheshire cat grin". I also think that naming the monster as a Wendigo (to me a slightly goofy image out of a monster manual) detracts from the dread. I would leave it unnamed or have the translation of the name be something Neil has difficulty with.

    I think the slow build worked well, so I wouldn't cut the early scenes.

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  • MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    I didn't buy that she'd lop off her hand for her husband after the revelation. I mean, the reveal is done subtly enough, but I wasn't sure why she was doing it. Their relationship seemed strained with her 'I wish you had cheated, I should have cheated,' and going from that to permanent, painful disfiguration seems a bit out of character.

    Unless she's pregnant or something.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I think I agree with tape. Overall, I enjoyed this a lot. It's not a super-unique concept, but you make it your own.

    Like tape said, the reveal is telegraphed very early to where there's not much surprise when it happens. In a shorter story, this would be fine, because you do a great job with the tone and the imagery and the sort of horrific inevitability you have going on. With the length as it is, though, there's a lot of time for the reader to reflect on how he knows where this is going.

    The climax is well done, though I share Mal's difficulty accepting Kristine's sacrifice at the end. It seems their relationship is strained at the beginning, and her husband turning into an ice monster probably isn't helping matters, so disfiguring herself is a stretch for me, especially as a first measure. I think you may want to either establish their relationship as happier, so it comes off more as something she's desperate to save; or give her some external reason for wanting to make such a sacrifice (like, as Mal suggested, she's pregnant (note: I am not suggesting you go that exact route)).

    Oh, and the transcription K finds near the end was fantastic. Creepy as shit, and the words in brackets was a great touch.

    Riley: "You're a marsupial!"
    Maddie: "I am not!"
    Riley: "You're a marsupial!"
    Maddie: "I am a placental mammal!"
    tapeslinger
  • tapeslingertapeslinger utter Yog-Sothothery mmm, soulsRegistered User regular
    The first thing to do in the edit is find the modifiers; I think the story would gain some immediacy just by cutting unneeded had-s, was-es, that-s. I would cut some of the scenes which basically just come across as "yep, still acting weird." I think one instance of any type of memory or trait is enough to establish expectations for the reader.

    I don't agree with redsocialknight, in that I think using a wendigo is a pretty quintessentially Canadian legendary monster/force of nature and fits with the setting.

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  • WankWank Registered User regular
    Okay so someone else also told me to make her pregnant. But if I do, it raises other problems. Like, why would newly-weds, one of whom is doing a doctorate, want a baby? Also, it would have had to have been from before he left, so then wouldn't she tell him right away on his arrival? Why wait? If she'd wanted to terminate it while he was gone she had plenty of time. And if she does just tell him right off the bat, doesn't the pregnancy lose its twistiness? I was assuming an end reveal.

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  • tapeslingertapeslinger utter Yog-Sothothery mmm, soulsRegistered User regular
    They could be newlyweds because of the baby, especially if someone's mother is megareligious. (it's a horrible, judgy thing, but it does happen.)

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  • tapeslingertapeslinger utter Yog-Sothothery mmm, soulsRegistered User regular
    As for the title, god, I am bad at them, but I would say even Bradburying it, something like "The Thesis" would be hitting closer to the mark than "Hunger" which is a little on the nose, yeah.

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  • WankWank Registered User regular
    They could be newlyweds because of the baby, especially if someone's mother is megareligious. (it's a horrible, judgy thing, but it does happen.)
    In this case the baby thing wouldn't be a reveal, then, just an additional factor.

  • ElJeffeElJeffe Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    If you go with the baby - and I think a baby is a little cliched, myself - I wouldn't make it a twist. The point is just to give her a strong reason to want to save her marriage and/or husband at any cost. If you establish that she's desperately in love with him, then you don't need to add anything else, because "I can't live without you" is reason enough. But as it is, I'm seeing a woman in a struggling relationship who isn't really happy to begin with, and now her husband is also a carnivorous snow monster. She's desperate to preserve that why, now?

    I kind of like the idea of preserving the current troubled relationship and adding some complicating factor, because I think it heightens the interest of the piece - she's doing all this to stay with a dude she doesn't even necessarily love anymore, which is compelling if you can sell it.

    (Also, I dig using the wendigo because, as a non-frozen-tundra dweller, it's a thing that I'm mildly familiar with, but not so much that it feels stale. Being able to go, "Hey, I've kind of heard of that!" adds to the piece, I think, by tying it to reality.)

    Riley: "You're a marsupial!"
    Maddie: "I am not!"
    Riley: "You're a marsupial!"
    Maddie: "I am a placental mammal!"
    tapeslinger
  • tapeslingertapeslinger utter Yog-Sothothery mmm, soulsRegistered User regular
    Wank wrote: »
    They could be newlyweds because of the baby, especially if someone's mother is megareligious. (it's a horrible, judgy thing, but it does happen.)
    In this case the baby thing wouldn't be a reveal, then, just an additional factor.

    Sorry, I was trying to suggest that the reason why she would want to stay doesn't need to be a surprise, and I think I just stated the reasoning without the results

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  • WankWank Registered User regular
    K welp she's preggers now. Changed the Mom dialogue a bit also. Is this better now? Worse? Samey?

  • MagellMagell Registered User regular
    Oh now I spent all that time reading the old version right before you changed it.

    I'm going to echo what every one else has said and say you need to lose many words for this story to be better. Like upwards of a 1,000 words gots to go.

    As it was there are three conversations with her Mom and one of those can either be cut or changed to be had with somebody else. You can also lose some of the conversation between Kristine and Noel as they continue rehashing a lot of the same ideas of what's going wrong with Noel.

    The use of Wendigo is awesome because it's pretty Canadian.

    Making her pregnant makes the ending seem more plausible as to why she'd cut her hand off, but it also makes it likely something bad would happen to the baby when the Mom loses a limb. I don't have proof of that I just have a feeling it's bad. I think there are much better ways to find food for Noel. The idea of her finding/making a dead body for him seems like a better more fucked up ending.

  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    I really enjoyed this for the most part, although the ending doesn't work for me either. I don't think it needs to be shorter, necessarily, although in my opinion it would benefit from removing some of the more superfluous stuff and focusing more on setting up the ending in a believable way.

    I'm not sure making her pregnant made the ending any better. To me it's less believable now. Wouldn't the baby's well-being be first priority to her? I'd imagine she would want to get the baby as far away from cannibal-dad as possible, and certainly not risk the baby's health by performing amputation on herself.

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  • MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    I was under the impression that when Kristine's father died, it shook her family up a great deal so maintaining the family unit is paramount to her.

    "A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline."

    "Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor


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    Now in Paperback!
  • WankWank Registered User regular
    I'm an impatient piece of shit, so I sent this off already. When I get my first rejection I'll revise again. Big THANK-YOU to everybody who made my dream of this story receiving helpful critique a concrete reality

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