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TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士Miami, FLRegistered User regular
edited May 2013 in Games and Technology
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League of Legends (popularly known as LoL) is a Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) game created by Riot Games.

You play as a summoner that controls a champion and takes them into battle with and against other summoners and their respective champions. During games, your champion will level up, get gold for better equipment and hopefully destroy the enemy nexus. Outside of games, your summoner level will rise. This will unlock new runes to enhance champion stats, bestow mastery points for further champion customization and goodies like avatars. At max level you can then compete in ranked matches and/or judge player behavior in what is called the Tribunal.


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Thread Layout
OP - The Basics - General LoL Tips and Tricks
2nd - PENTAKILL! - Come see who among us has recently scored a PENTAKILL
3rd - Currently Open Contests/One-Time Events

The Basics
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New Player Guide
1. Make an account: NA EU (West) EU (Nordic & East)

It is worth noting that referring new players has perks, so I would ask for a referral link in the thread rather than a vanilla account.


2. Download the client: Right here

The official Mac client is in beta - download it today!

3. Play the tutorials! New User Guide

The game can be a bit overwhelming, and I highly suggest you play the tutorials OR find someone willing to do a few vs. AI games with you.

4. Join the "Penny Arcade" Chat Channel to find helpful people and people to escape solo queue with!
Click the little double speech bubble looking thing at the bottom right of your screen. Click the + speech bubble right above it. Type in "Penny Arcade" and introduce yourself. Not everyone you see in the thread will be there, as not everyone plays on the same server. You can ask these people how to play champions, we pretty much have someone who plays each champion.

5. Play vs. People

Do it, damn you. As said above, the AI is not going to give you the legitimate LoL experience. You don't want to hit your 20s solely from bot matches. If you do use bot games, focus on practicing LoL basics such as getting the last hit on minions for that sweet sweet gold.

6. Get yer free champs.

Subscribe to Riot's Youtube and get a free Alistar skin! Includes the champion! Free Tristana if you're into the Facebook thing. Promo skins always include the champion if you never bought it.
The Dos and Don'ts of LoL
1. Don't buy champions randomly!

LoL has two currencies: Riot Points (RP), which are bought with real money, and Influence Points (IP) which are earned solely by playing games. Champions can be bought with both, but every week there will be ten free champions to play with. Play these champs instead. Get a feel for each type of champion and see which you find more fun. It's far better to do this as opposed to buying a champ randomly and ultimately being unhappy with it. Also, (it's rumored) you can get ONE refund opportunity for (I believe I read) up to 3 RP purchases. After that, it's your own fault for spending RP.

2. Don't buy Tier 2 Runes.

They are pretty much a waste of IP. Buy Tier 1 and save up for Tier 3. Or, if you're baller like Hargaad, don't even buy Tier 1. Wait to hit level 30, then buy all the Tier 3 runes you need.

3. Do queue with friends.

Playing with randoms is a crapshoot, and playing with a Taric or two can put the odds in your favor. Play complementary champs and request feedback on how you did in each game (even if you won). Likewise, you can offer advice to others you saw having trouble in a polite manner (because if you aren't polite, you're likely to get flamed).

4. Do learn the champions

When a new rotation occurs, it is wise to play a few games with each champ. Knowing what each champ is capable of will be useful even if you hate how they play and never intend on using them. For example, Karthus has a skill that does damage to every enemy champion, regardless of location! If you know this, then you can be a jerk and take Soraka.

5. Do read guides.

There are multiple ways to play a champion. This combination of skills, runes, masteries and items is called a "build" and are the general strategies for any champion. The recommended items in the game store are not always accurate, and the order you level skills can have a big impact on how the early stages of the game play out. Sites like Mobafire and Solomid offer builds for just about every champion. It's cookie-cutter, but a great foundation for new people. Once you learn the ins and outs, you can tweak a build to better serve your playstyles or as a reaction to enemy or ally players.

6. Do be polite and do report

Sometimes people will suck or do shit wrong. It's a game, so try to keep that in mind when things get a little unhinged. If you insult or yell at people, even if they DID do something wrong, you're likely going to get that person defensive and things break down. Instead of focusing on the game, you focus on hurling insults at each. Stay calm, and politely offer advice when needed. And yet, people are jerks. It happens. Simply /mute them and quietly report them after the game. Taking their bait is probably what they want you to do. Do not give them the satisfaction! Keep your cool.

7. Buy skins

Having a skin for a character is a great way to say "Hey I'm fucking awesome with this champion so get the fuck out of my way." If your team is using more skins than your enemy team, you basically have already won. If you're playing as , you've won the awesome award.
Game Stuff
1. Do not be aggressive

There will be a serious urge to want to kill enemy champs. Resist! Death is an all-around loss: your opponents get more cash and experience, you miss out on experience and your lane risks getting pushed. If you set-up a kill and fail, do not continue chasing. In many cases, you will just die to a tower or get ganked. While later on you will learn when to take risks, early in your career it's best to be less aggressive and just let the other guy get away.

2. Do not focus on KDR

Your kill-death-ratio is not the end-all of your value. It is possible to lose despite having a serious kill advantage over the enemy team! Certain champions, once getting the right items, can be unstoppable murder machines. Even if you do kill them a lot, if they reach this threshold, it's possible for a dramatic reversal to occur. It is far more important to support your team's objectives: push towers, protect your own towers from being pushed and keep your team informed of enemy activity. It is far better to have a modest KDR and win, than be the team killer and lose.

3. Do watch the minimap and your enemy

Enemy locations are important! In your low-level games you will likely have two champs tops lane, one mid and two bottom (in later level games, one from top will be off "jungling," so top will have just one champ). If a player in YOUR lane is missing, let the team know. The player might just be heading back to base to buy items, or they could be trying to jump your friend in another lane. And mention when they came back to your lane! But this doesn't mean you should rely wholly on team recon. Watch the minimap yourself for enemy locations in other lanes whenever you can. People aren't perfect, and sometimes that warning comes a bit too late. Another set of eyes is always useful.

4. Do buy wards.

Wards are items that grant you vision of an area for 180 seconds. They are, without a doubt, one of the best purchases you will make. You can plop them along the river and have advance warning of ganks. They'll grant you vision of the brush. They'll alert you of enemy attempts on big-reward neutral monsters like the dragon or baron. If you attack them in the middle of something like that, you could mob up their entire team. Or maybe you are aware of a gank attempt on you. You could alert a nearby friend, bait the ganker in and turn the tables. Buy wards. BUY. WARDS.

5. Do buy wards.

Wards are items that grant you vision of an area for 180 seconds. They are, without a doubt, one of the best purchases you will make. You can plop them along the river and have advance warning of ganks. They'll grant you vision of the brush. They'll alert you of enemy attempts on big reward neutral monsters like the dragon or baron. If you attack them in the middle of something like that, you could mob up their entire team. Or maybe you are aware of a gank attempt on you. You could alert a nearby friend, bait the ganker in and turn the tables. Buy wards. BUY. WARDS. Yes, I posted this twice. It is that important.

6. Do something.

So you just wiped the enemy team out. Hooray! But...what are you doing now? Did you just go back to your respective lanes and farm? Incorrect! You now have precious map control, and should be taking advantage of it. Gather up as a team and take out a tower. Head to the dragon and get a clean kill. Steal enemy creeps (especially their blue and red buffs). You can always check the status of both teams by pressing tab. If multiple enemies are waiting on respawn, then you need to press that advantage.

7. Don't just wait around all day when you're in a position to win.

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8. Do buy wards.

Seriously, kids. If Hargaad can do it, so can you. I know you have 75 gold just laying around sometimes. Don't feed us with your bullshit of, "But I need to save for x item!" No! Fuck you, and your high horse. If you don't buy wards, and you die a lot, nobody on your team is going to be able to save you from a beefed up (whatever) lane. Consequences will never be the same!

9. Learn to speak ping.

All you really need to communicate effectively in this game is to be able to use the pings it provides.
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To use these pings, hold down the Alt, Ctrl, G, or V keys while clicking to show the new ping overlay. Then, move your mouse in the direction of the ping you want to issue, and release. You can perform this action either on the terrain or the minimap for precision pinging.
It is unacceptable to blame players that aren't typing at all, or players that are not speaking in English.
Meet the Team
Like any group activity, stuff is usually broken down into roles. It's worth noting that champions don't always fit neatly in categories. A champion's role in the team may depend on what build has been chosen, and sometimes you may fill several roles depending on the group composition. When picking champions, it's a good idea to see what people are doing and fill in any holes.

1. The Carry: If your team is a car, then the carry is the engine. It's what makes the team function. The carry, when doing its job, will be able to easily destroy the whole team. But, just like an engine is useless without any other parts of your car, the carry relies on its team to get the gold necessary to buy the items needed to kill swathes of enemies. Early on, carries tend to be more vulnerable and weaker than other champs. LOTS of people pick carry in random, because it's the star character that generally gets all the kills. One of the reasons Caitlyn is so great is that she can carry a team since her AS ratios are amazing and she can easily carry and dominate fools.

2. The Tank: Following the car metaphor, the tank is your steering. It'll guide the team into battle, and in many cases will be the one starting the fights. Tanks are there to absorb damage and lock down the most dangerous champions on the enemy team so you can position yourselves to win the fight. Some tanks do this with CC, whereas other tanks have some damage and will soften up the enemy team instead. Tanks still tend to need the rest of their team to back them up. Rammus is probably the most boss at doing all of this, and with zazz.

3. The Support: I guess support are your tires or something? Maybe the AC. Either, support help the team out with buffs and generally shields or healing. Healers tend to assist the carry by allowing the carry to stay in the lane longer through said healing or shields. Unlike, well, just about everyone else, Support don't rely so much on gear and thus will purposefully AVOID getting last hits so that their lane partner can farm gold faster. Because of their reduced need of gold, support should also be buying and placing wards when needed. It's worth noting that EVERYONE should generally buy wards, but as a support you can afford to take the financial hit. FEW people pick support in random due to how hard it is to influence games. You have to be very proactive to make up for bad teammates as a carry. Veigar commonly supports the enemy team to their graves.

4. The Jungler: Jungling is a more advanced concept, and you won't see it until higher summoner levels. This is due to runes and masteries allowing for more efficient jungling. It is still possible on a few champs, even at Summoner Level 1, but very uncommon. As the name implies, the jungler sits in the jungle and kills neutral creeps. This benefits your team by creating a second solo lane (top lane), resulting in more experience and gold for your team as a whole. Once the jungler hits a certain gear/level point, they look for opportunities to gank enemies. This is generally done via strong CC abilities, such as Warwick's ultimate or Nunu's slow coupled with his speed buff. Skills such as these will enable the jungler's teammate in that lane to easily assist with the kill. When not ganking, the jungler will return to the jungle regularly to keep up in terms of gold and experience. Due to their roaming, the jungler has plenty of opportunities to place wards for its teammates.

This is a very simple guide! There are other roles in teams, but this is a rough outline of the basics. Roles can easily overlap, and a champion can fill more than one role! Experiment and see what works and what doesn't.
Useful LoL related websites
Surrender@20 - For all the latest LoL news and a sneak peak at any upcoming content on the Public Beta Environment.
http://www.solomid.net/ - A more advanced and polished version of Mobafire. Solomid offers intricate guides on champs that've been tried and tested by the community. Best for more advanced players of lvl 20+
http://www.lolking.net/ - A site for looking at skins as their splash art can be different from what they look like in game. Its also good for looking up summoners.
http://www.leagueoflegends.com - The standard LoL website! Info on the game can be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggKB98It0Q - The basics of laning and last hitting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxGQ3gWdrM - Shurelya's guide on zoning!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVtmV0FzW_0 SivHDs guide to never raging again.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsVUL5xGFvg2vO787daxpJFAAcxpr5vE8 Saintvicious Jungle guides.
List of helpful LoL terminology.

Stuff You Should Know
- Yes, a promo skin will unlock that champion for free.
- Map vision wins games - BUY WARDS
- It is a team wide effort, everyone buys wards.
- When in doubt, take Exhaust/Flash

For emergency use only
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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    edited June 2013
    PENTAKILL!

    Post your pentas in the thread to get them added! Message the OP if he is blind or lazy!

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    This post is now going to be saved for the more recent pentakills. In the interest of giving more attention to the recent pentas, I took the liberty of removing the old ones and putting them into an album. All the pentakills until 4/15/13 are here.

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Current Contests

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  • chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    Mmkay placed into silver. Last two games were a total drubbing though. Silver Is and golds on the other team, all unranked people on mine. Riot really wanted to make sure my placement matches were well gauged.

    Also, Blitzcrank's templars. I r sad. I wanted to be a Volibear too.

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  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    STOP SHIPPIN' LUX/EZ.
    IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

    tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Soraka and Shen should never be allowed on the same team.

    It's like a warcrime. A massive, middle finger to assassins that just laughs in the face of the idea of damage.

  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    evilthecat wrote: »
    STOP SHIPPIN' LUX/EZ.
    IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Scarra so strong. <3

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  • übergeekübergeek Sector 2814Registered User regular
    So, something I've seen discussed on reddit and reignofgaming and at the lol forums. The problem with only having 8 teams and then casting out some of them for challengers makes it harder for fans that are following because of one specific team. So far complexity is out, MRN disbanded, and Dignitas looks to have a good shot at sticking around, but CLG is probably in trouble. Some guy from Quantic was going over their most recent scrims against TSM, Dignitas, and CLG. They were beating each team by pretty wide margins (W/L, not how far ahead they were eahc game).

    The system currently in place isn't fostering an ability to follow a team since they can be eliminated so early (although if they do get eliminated so early that is mostly their own fault). It just looks like LoL in each region needs more teams. They're fielding 8 of each it looks like when it should be more like 16 each after 3 years. They should have had something better in place before the tier system was in to admit those teams that are now Challenger level or the top of Diamond. Maybe it's just because it feels so spread out across regions, whereas DoTA teams are so numerous and their tourneys are usually fielding 16 teams. TI3 is fielding 13, plus 8 East teams fightng for a spot, same for West, and then a wildcard spot for total of 16. The fact that there's 16 teams that couldn't be invited because of the sheer size of the brackets says something. At the ends of the day 13 of those teams are going home with a possibility of being alternates.

    What do you guys think? The LCS system just feels.....off.

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    games like that make me want to give eve mid another go

    and then i try it and i suck and i realize why i stopped it in the first place

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  • WhiteSharkWhiteShark Registered User regular
    games like that make me want to give eve mid another go

    and then i try it and i suck and i realize why i stopped it in the first place

    I don't think she works well in a lot of lanes, but specifically against Karthus she does very well

  • SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    There should be a group for ranked called Nasus Asses.

  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    Does Karthus actually do well in lane against anyone? Legit question.

  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    Does Karthus actually do well in lane against anyone? Legit question.

    He hard counters Ryze

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  • SproutSprout Registered User regular
    übergeek wrote: »
    So, something I've seen discussed on reddit and reignofgaming and at the lol forums. The problem with only having 8 teams and then casting out some of them for challengers makes it harder for fans that are following because of one specific team. So far complexity is out, MRN disbanded, and Dignitas looks to have a good shot at sticking around, but CLG is probably in trouble. Some guy from Quantic was going over their most recent scrims against TSM, Dignitas, and CLG. They were beating each team by pretty wide margins (W/L, not how far ahead they were eahc game).

    The system currently in place isn't fostering an ability to follow a team since they can be eliminated so early (although if they do get eliminated so early that is mostly their own fault). It just looks like LoL in each region needs more teams. They're fielding 8 of each it looks like when it should be more like 16 each after 3 years. They should have had something better in place before the tier system was in to admit those teams that are now Challenger level or the top of Diamond. Maybe it's just because it feels so spread out across regions, whereas DoTA teams are so numerous and their tourneys are usually fielding 16 teams. TI3 is fielding 13, plus 8 East teams fightng for a spot, same for West, and then a wildcard spot for total of 16. The fact that there's 16 teams that couldn't be invited because of the sheer size of the brackets says something. At the ends of the day 13 of those teams are going home with a possibility of being alternates.

    What do you guys think? The LCS system just feels.....off.

    I agree that they could up the field to 10-12 without it being much of an issue. I think that if Riot was going for a TI3 sort of setup, they could pretty easily fill the sort of bracket that Valve did. Think about it: you've got 8 NA LCS teams, 8 EU LCS teams, plus let's say 3 more LCS-caliber teams in each of those regions; that's 22 teams in the West. Then between Korea, China, and SEA, you could easily get as many teams for an Eastern division. Putting together some sort of mega-tournament wouldn't be too difficult.

  • BethrynBethryn Unhappiness is Mandatory Registered User regular
    Goumindong wrote: »
    He hard counters Ryze
    On paper maybe.

    ...and of course, as always, Kill Hitler.
  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    Bethryn wrote: »
    Goumindong wrote: »
    He hard counters Ryze
    On paper maybe.

    No. Ryze has to stop moving in order to use spells which makes him an easy target for skittles. His ranges are all below Karthus's defile range. Karthus pushes hard which is difficult for ryze to deal with. Karthus's wall shuts down Ryze's ultimate engagement tools.

    Karthus hard counters him.

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  • FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    Sprout wrote: »
    übergeek wrote: »
    So, something I've seen discussed on reddit and reignofgaming and at the lol forums. The problem with only having 8 teams and then casting out some of them for challengers makes it harder for fans that are following because of one specific team. So far complexity is out, MRN disbanded, and Dignitas looks to have a good shot at sticking around, but CLG is probably in trouble. Some guy from Quantic was going over their most recent scrims against TSM, Dignitas, and CLG. They were beating each team by pretty wide margins (W/L, not how far ahead they were eahc game).

    The system currently in place isn't fostering an ability to follow a team since they can be eliminated so early (although if they do get eliminated so early that is mostly their own fault). It just looks like LoL in each region needs more teams. They're fielding 8 of each it looks like when it should be more like 16 each after 3 years. They should have had something better in place before the tier system was in to admit those teams that are now Challenger level or the top of Diamond. Maybe it's just because it feels so spread out across regions, whereas DoTA teams are so numerous and their tourneys are usually fielding 16 teams. TI3 is fielding 13, plus 8 East teams fightng for a spot, same for West, and then a wildcard spot for total of 16. The fact that there's 16 teams that couldn't be invited because of the sheer size of the brackets says something. At the ends of the day 13 of those teams are going home with a possibility of being alternates.

    What do you guys think? The LCS system just feels.....off.

    I agree that they could up the field to 10-12 without it being much of an issue. I think that if Riot was going for a TI3 sort of setup, they could pretty easily fill the sort of bracket that Valve did. Think about it: you've got 8 NA LCS teams, 8 EU LCS teams, plus let's say 3 more LCS-caliber teams in each of those regions; that's 22 teams in the West. Then between Korea, China, and SEA, you could easily get as many teams for an Eastern division. Putting together some sort of mega-tournament wouldn't be too difficult.

    There needs to be more tournaments than just the LCS. Both the SC2 and dota 2 scene have several other tournaments running, especially the dota scene. Everything is being concentrated into one thing (LCS for lol, and SC2 is headed there with WCS). This leads to only the teams in the "premier" league having a reason to exist, and dropping out of it means losing all exposure.

    Hopefully we get some second tier tourney or league going, it really would be in riots interest to allow this, as to make sure there will be teams outside the LCS to replace ones who get complacent. Hell, for NA they should hit up the NASL guys, and for EU... not sure. ESL are already doing the LCS, but someone else might be able to create a second league. Just have it air on slightly different time than the LCS as to make sure people can watch both if they really want to. In korea you have the OGN, which kind of is LCS korea? otherwise they should let gom set up a second korean league to make sure they have two as well.

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    OH MY GOD CRUMBZ IS PLAYING RAMMUS I'M GOING TO HAVE A FUCKING COW NOW

  • RedThornRedThorn Registered User regular
    The thing about Karthus is that his laning phase isn't about pooping all over his lane opponent so much as it is about getting all the farm ever and exerting pressure on the side lanes. In that sense, he does well in most matchups.

    Also, Defile definitely isn't longer than Ryze's skill range.

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    Look at the Rammus zoom right through the gate.

    Blue Jaycereal team has 3 tears on it. Ryze teaching his ADs how to scale with mana.

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  • DeviousRakunDeviousRakun Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    I'm so happy Rammus got picked that I want Dig to win just because of it.

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  • RedThornRedThorn Registered User regular
    That flash over the wall was the best thing.

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  • pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    holy fuck crumbz on rammus is godly

    also it seems like TS had the advantage early but didnt really capitalize on it because captain korea doesn't have a global champ and doesn't really know what to do now

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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Rammus + Acceleration Gate + weaving and flashing through minion traffic = lololololol

    This game is so much fun to watch. Wraith wall flash + taunt, Ryze teleport into Rammus rollgank, I fucking love Rammus in a coordinated team. I need to start playing again and use my King Rammus more.

  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    Yo I'm Rammus I'm not even going to tremor or taunt I'm just going to walk around and be fat in the middle of your team and you are all going to be absolutely terrified of me.

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    It was so satisfying seeing them shut that Shen down so hard.

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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Talith wrote: »
    Yo I'm Rammus I'm not even going to tremor or taunt I'm just going to walk around and be fat in the middle of your team and you are all going to be absolutely terrified of me.
    Oh Jesus please don't taunt me oh Jesus please don't taunt me oh Jesus please don't taunt me

  • BethrynBethryn Unhappiness is Mandatory Registered User regular
    Goumindong wrote: »
    No. Ryze has to stop moving in order to use spells which makes him an easy target for skittles. His ranges are all below Karthus's defile range. Karthus pushes hard which is difficult for ryze to deal with. Karthus's wall shuts down Ryze's ultimate engagement tools.

    Karthus hard counters him.
    And this is why I say "on paper".

    Any Ryze worth his salt is going to engage Karth from within minions, where Karthus damage is going to be significantly less.

    I also think claiming that Ryze has trouble with "hard pushing" is completely wrong after 6 and second blue. Ryze was a hard enough pusher for M5 to run him regularly as a mid pusher in S2, and nothing has really happened to affect that since then.

    ...and of course, as always, Kill Hitler.
  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    HAHAHAH Rammus ban.

    He put the fear of that Armordillo into TS :D

    And that let Diana slip through. Best of luck TS, you're going to need it ;)

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  • übergeekübergeek Sector 2814Registered User regular
    I really wish people would stop picking Orianna in these LCS games, since the finals brackets Se's had a 30% or so winrate. There's so few people to Wombo Combo with, and right now TS....has Zac? Maybe Pony charging in? Usually you want something like Jarvan to keep them trapped. Their team could much better synergize to make use of her and didn't really though. In fact, the dream scenario would be Karthus with a Rylai's, he initiaties in with his aura on and pops Zhonya, She presses R, they can't get out of the slow field fast enough and then she pops her own slow. The rest of your team focuses one at a time as they scatter to get out of that slowing deathfield. Anyone gets away takes and R to the face from Karthus.

    Of course, outside of an odd Ori support, this isn't supported by the meta. It's the closest thing to a Dark Seer/Enigma Combo.

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  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    The only way you're gonna have "teams to follow" in a league is if the teams are part of the league, and not the players.

    eSports aren't setup like that, they are player-based. I can only be a lifetime fan of a team in major sports because the team is still called the same thing even after every player I loved is gone.

    I'm kinda fine with the player-focus and current LCS setup...

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  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    1v4? Even odds for ponybro.

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  • CarnarvonCarnarvon Registered User regular
    Oh look, solo Zac building Sunfire Cape and magic penetration items? WHO COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA HMMMMMM

    Also, Scarra doesn't seem to realize that he doesn't have a Nashor's Tooth.

  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Sprout wrote: »
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    So, something I've seen discussed on reddit and reignofgaming and at the lol forums. The problem with only having 8 teams and then casting out some of them for challengers makes it harder for fans that are following because of one specific team. So far complexity is out, MRN disbanded, and Dignitas looks to have a good shot at sticking around, but CLG is probably in trouble. Some guy from Quantic was going over their most recent scrims against TSM, Dignitas, and CLG. They were beating each team by pretty wide margins (W/L, not how far ahead they were eahc game).

    The system currently in place isn't fostering an ability to follow a team since they can be eliminated so early (although if they do get eliminated so early that is mostly their own fault). It just looks like LoL in each region needs more teams. They're fielding 8 of each it looks like when it should be more like 16 each after 3 years. They should have had something better in place before the tier system was in to admit those teams that are now Challenger level or the top of Diamond. Maybe it's just because it feels so spread out across regions, whereas DoTA teams are so numerous and their tourneys are usually fielding 16 teams. TI3 is fielding 13, plus 8 East teams fightng for a spot, same for West, and then a wildcard spot for total of 16. The fact that there's 16 teams that couldn't be invited because of the sheer size of the brackets says something. At the ends of the day 13 of those teams are going home with a possibility of being alternates.

    What do you guys think? The LCS system just feels.....off.

    I agree that they could up the field to 10-12 without it being much of an issue. I think that if Riot was going for a TI3 sort of setup, they could pretty easily fill the sort of bracket that Valve did. Think about it: you've got 8 NA LCS teams, 8 EU LCS teams, plus let's say 3 more LCS-caliber teams in each of those regions; that's 22 teams in the West. Then between Korea, China, and SEA, you could easily get as many teams for an Eastern division. Putting together some sort of mega-tournament wouldn't be too difficult.

    However they're also footing the entire bill for these eight teams, aren't they? Housing, food, travel, etc. Perhaps they did some math and figured out with sponsorships and whatnot they could only afford X teams this season.

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  • stormbringerstormbringer Registered User regular
    Now that they have Mac client I can actually try this.

    Some horribly dumb questions. Like I have played maybe 10 games 3 of which have been all the way through. .

    I keep getting into 3vAI games and all my partners drop out almost instantly. Am I getting dinged dropping out when its 1x3.

    When I actually get say three people to stick around the game is astonishingly fun, and maybe because no one in the lower levels actually paid attention to the tutorial I am able to rack up the final kill shot on creeps. I have no idea what equipment to pick but the recommended stuff does not seem to jive with my character.

    Is there any way to setup what I want in the recommended equipment.

  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Scarra with 600+ AP and lichbane on Diana is a scary scary thing.

    Also I think we learned today that spending EVERY ban on one player is a bad idea.

    Although maybe not since they wasted one on Rammus and that didn't turn out well for them :D

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  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Watched that Rammus game.

    Awesome.

  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited May 2013
    Huh, today I learned that Voyboy apparently learns the mechanics of new champs he wants to master by taking them into Bot games. Good stuff :D

    *Edit* That remix of the players was simultaneously hilarious and painfully awkward.

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