I really liked Zidane because he was really upbeat and he genuinely cared about the others. ALL OF THEM. Not just the one with tits. He really cared about Vivi, secretly because he identified with him. Freya was one of his homies. He clashed with Steiner because his attitude was dangerous. When Amarant wants to know WTF is wrong with him, Zidane is prepared to give answers. He knew exactly why Eiko was so clingy.
And when life finally came down on Zidane and he nearly gave in, they all came to him to lift him up, and he rose to the top in the end. Someone said he's like Vash the Stampede. Very refreshing from the I'm emo and a haet everything and everyone except for my ho' crowd.
Yeah, I meant to say in my post above that I disagreed that Vivi should have been the main character. Zidane really did function as a lynchpin for the entire cast of FF9--it couldn't have centered around Vivi in the same way.
I agree, I don't think FF9 would've worked without Zidane as the lead. I also love that he isn't your typical RPG hero 'boy scout'. He isn't above coping a feel of the princess :rotate:
Sid Meier doesn't appear in the game and Alpha Centaur A, B, and Proxima (the stars) play only minor roles when compared to Planet, itself.
:P
Hasn't someone actually tried to create a game where you influence external elements by playing as "the world"?
Or maybe I'm getting confused with some bullshit Molyneux made up about Black and White.
I played an indie game like that. It was more of a toy than a game.
In SMAC, Planet is more of just an overwhelming influence in all aspects of the game. A force to be respected at all times as you build an empire. No matter what you do, Planet will go on. You can work with it or try and be against it (HA HA!).
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Imagine running with a sprite of Alucard in a swank suit! I was so disappointed when I found that Julius was the only other playable character. It just seemed so obvious, you know?
Actually, he was fine in a supporting role.... I just wanted him to be a bonus character so bad...
Umm...
While you can't play as Arikado in the suit, you can play as Alucard in Julius mode.
I really liked Zidane because he was really upbeat and he genuinely cared about the others. ALL OF THEM. Not just the one with tits. He really cared about Vivi, secretly because he identified with him. Freya was one of his homies. He clashed with Steiner because his attitude was dangerous. When Amarant wants to know WTF is wrong with him, Zidane is prepared to give answers. He knew exactly why Eiko was so clingy.
And when life finally came down on Zidane and he nearly gave in, they all came to him to lift him up, and he rose to the top in the end. Someone said he's like Vash the Stampede. Very refreshing from the I'm emo and a haet everything and everyone except for my ho' crowd.
Yeah, I meant to say in my post above that I disagreed that Vivi should have been the main character. Zidane really did function as a lynchpin for the entire cast of FF9--it couldn't have centered around Vivi in the same way.
I agree, I don't think FF9 would've worked without Zidane as the lead. I also love that he isn't your typical RPG hero 'boy scout'. He isn't above coping a feel of the princess :rotate:
Yeah, pretty much. But even then, if you'd given the rest of the cast development equal to what the non-major characters get in other FFs and left Zidane as-is, likewise it'd fall flat on it's face. Like I said, FF9 is really an ensemble piece with Zidane acting as the glue that sticks them all together.
Quina is optional in the first disk, but you have to pick him/her up in the second. Amarant enters very late in the game really and gets a lot of development considering, but even then, he's the mysterious character who doesn't have masses of background. Man. FF9. Maybe it's time for another FF9 thread so we can all gush on it.
I really liked Zidane because he was really upbeat and he genuinely cared about the others. ALL OF THEM. Not just the one with tits. He really cared about Vivi, secretly because he identified with him. Freya was one of his homies. He clashed with Steiner because his attitude was dangerous. When Amarant wants to know WTF is wrong with him, Zidane is prepared to give answers. He knew exactly why Eiko was so clingy.
And when life finally came down on Zidane and he nearly gave in, they all came to him to lift him up, and he rose to the top in the end. Someone said he's like Vash the Stampede. Very refreshing from the I'm emo and a haet everything and everyone except for my ho' crowd.
Yeah, I meant to say in my post above that I disagreed that Vivi should have been the main character. Zidane really did function as a lynchpin for the entire cast of FF9--it couldn't have centered around Vivi in the same way.
I agree, I don't think FF9 would've worked without Zidane as the lead. I also love that he isn't your typical RPG hero 'boy scout'. He isn't above coping a feel of the princess :rotate:
Yeah, pretty much. But even then, if you'd given the rest of the cast development equal to what the non-major characters get in other FFs and left Zidane as-is, likewise it'd fall flat on it's face. Like I said, FF9 is really an ensemble piece with Zidane acting as the glue that sticks them all together.
Quina is optional in the first disk, but you have to pick him/her up in the second. Amarant enters very late in the game really and gets a lot of development considering, but even then, he's the mysterious character who doesn't have masses of background. Man. FF9. Maybe it's time for another FF9 thread so we can all gush on it.
Heh, yeah, characters get a much more even amount of development in 9 than most other titles. It did remind me a lot of 6, which is why its one of my favorite FFs.
What's the name of the game where Bruce Willis was voicing the sidekick, but the publisher decided that Bruce Willis should be the main character so they reworked the game. The problem was they couldn't get Willis back into the studio so they just made do with sound bytes with him as a sidekick, but redone for a main character. The game wasn't bad, it was a generic isometric view shooter such as that game ONE, but I can't remember the name.
The game was called Apocalypse. I found it.
Completely off topic, but this game featured "War" by system of a down, i was trying to remeber what game this was.
hmm, i would say what about games based of the ones you have to escort, so instead of the ai fucking you over, you could fuck the person escorting you over. act and play as a human meat sheild!
Now, I love FFT. Particularly because as the story goes, the entire plot stresses that you play an integral role in the fate of two kingdoms and are left as less than a footnote of history. However, I'd like to see a game that shows Delita's rise to power from his own point of view. To see how he gets from one scene to the next.
I really liked Zidane because he was really upbeat and he genuinely cared about the others. ALL OF THEM. Not just the one with tits.
Everyone knows Zidane is an ass-man.
I think Amarant and Quina are optional anyway?
Neither are optional. You have the option of having Quina join early, but you're still required to have him/her join eventually. But considering his lack of prescence in the game, Amarant might as well have been optional.
I do wish Freya got more focus, though. Seems there always has to be one or two characters that fade into the background. Or in FFXII's case, the whole blooming cast.
Anyway, my next choice is for the Xenosaga series.
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would've made far better, interesting, cooler, and 99% less bitchy main characters than
Nobody understands me! Nobody saved me! I don't want to hurt anymore!
Well, Zero in MegaMan X, but I guess they corrected that one, huh?
Skies fans know what I'm talking about here.
Come on . . .
Dance for me!
Also, that dude with the machine gun from Final Fantasy 8.
While I am obviously gay for Gilder, I don't think he could've worked as the main character. He just.... wasn't complicated enough I guess. I don't really imagine him recruiting a team and fighting an ultimate evil. Just other pirates but nothing on a world destruction level. However if the girls from FFX can get a spin-off game, then Gilder could totally get a spin-off game where it is your duty to travel around and help out fine ladies all over the skies and then every time you're about to get a kiss or something, that one woman that loved Gilder shows up and you must be off to your next adventure!
Anyway, I'll say Guy from Tales of the Abyss. We could've found out a little more backstory and it would've made things a bit less emo. He actually plays more like every other main character from the Tales series because he learns a lot of the classic moves like Beast and Sword Rain so it makes sense.
Ya know. Leon is overrated. I say that ashley could have easily starred in RE 4. Pistol, shotgun, mine thrower pfft!! Whatever. This bitch can toss a mean oil lamp. Ashley vs. Krauser. That is PPV material right there.
well JC should have still been the main character in Deus Ex 2, minus all the stupid crap he had going on with him in the sequel. I would have rather been Kyle Katarn in Jedi Knight 3 as well, in general it seems I'm against changing the main character within the same series. although, I would totally love a game which focuses on Zanger Zunvolt http://youtube.com/watch?v=qu5AL-cojaw that man has a kind of badass only a man with a ridiculously large katana could have
First off, I have to throw my support behind Balthier 100%. That man is quite possibly the most well-written character in the history of videogames. Hell, when he enters the scene, boring characters like Vaan and Penelo become better through osmosis.
Other choices:
Enter the Matrix (This is so obvious I'm surprised no one brought it up yet)
Donkey Kong Country 3 (Seriously, who EVER wanted to play as Baby Kong? He's like Donkey Kong without the history, personality, and potty training)
Katamari Damacy (Okay, maybe not as MAIN character, but I'm just sayin', they should at least add a minigame where you get to play as the King, get wasted, and trash the galaxy)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Again, perhaps not in place of the main game, but it would have been great to have a second quest that follows Zelda/Sheik)
I gotta ask though, how many of these characters would actually be good in the lead role? I've always found their appeal to be because they are supporting characters. You want more of them, but they'd feel just like the protagonist if they played lead. Uninteresting.
On a side note, it's odd that in many cases the main character in games is the least interesting character, while in movies he/she is supposed to be the most likeable.
I really liked seeing Snake doing his thing from an alternate viewpoint in MGS2, but the problem I had was the Raiden was such a little bitch that he paled in comparison. I would have rather played as a guy who was at least a slight badass. If I can't be Snake, at least give me a badass, not a whiny emo bitch who can't even remember the day when he met his whiny emo bitch girlfriend.
It would have been like firing up the newest Splinter Cell, and then after three or four hours of Sam Fisher you had to play the rest of the game as Screech, and having Lisa Turtle bitch at you every five minutes about how he can't remember that today is the anniversary of when they met at The Max.
Enter the Matrix (This is so obvious I'm surprised no one brought it up yet)
Man, fuck Enter the Matrix. Just take it and erase it from the space-time continuum. God, what a bad game. It was like an hour of footage chopped directly from the second movie interrupted by a shitty FPS that thought it was a fighting game. Don't even get me started, I could do this all day.
Katamari Damacy (Okay, maybe not as MAIN character, but I'm just sayin', they should at least add a minigame where you get to play as the King, get wasted, and trash the galaxy)
Someone already mentioned him, but Seifer in FFVIII. He had tons more personality than Squall "..." Leonhart.
But '...' mirrored my own feelings quite nicely. I don't think I could stomach going along with Seifer's frequently retarded decisions. He's more emo than Squall a lot of the time.
(He's still cool though)
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Suitable lead or not, Shion's easily the most attractive character in the entire cast.
Well, at least in the first one.
I'll definitely second Zidane being the best for IX's lead. He's one of a kind, and while I love Freya, she's best as a supporter.
As for Amarant... I could be wrong on this, but I think I remember him and Freya having something.
Suitable lead or not, Shion's easily the most attractive character in the entire cast.
Well, at least in the first one.
I'll definitely second Zidane being the best for IX's lead. He's one of a kind, and while I love Freya, she's best as a supporter.
As for Amarant... I could be wrong on this, but I think I remember him and Freya having something.
VIII? Quistis.
Freya and Amarant was kinda sorta hinted at, but I think that was mostly 'hey lets have ALL the characters have relationships with each other' Especially didn't make sense with Freya's pineing for amenesia man.
Imagine running with a sprite of Alucard in a swank suit! I was so disappointed when I found that Julius was the only other playable character. It just seemed so obvious, you know?
Actually, he was fine in a supporting role.... I just wanted him to be a bonus character so bad...
Kyle Katarn in Jedi Academy. The character creation idea was moderately entertaining, but they should have gone with the proven formula.
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"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms, history shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjected peoples to carry arms have prepared their own fall"
- Adolf Hitler, Edict of March 18, 1938.
Kyle Katarn was boring by then. How many times can a guy lose his powers, anyway?
Not a guy, but I still have a great time playing a new Metroid every time Samus loses some (or all) of her powers.
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow is great even though Soma lost all his souls and levels from AoS.
Majora's Mask is great even though young link doesn't have all his gear from OoT.
I'd rather control characters I know who lost all their shit in a freak accident and continue their story than get a new protagonist every time a new installment comes out.
Kyle Katarn was boring by then. How many times can a guy lose his powers, anyway?
Not a guy, but I still have a great time playing a new Metroid every time Samus loses some (or all) of her powers.
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow is great even though Soma lost all his souls and levels from AoS.
Majora's Mask is great even though young link doesn't have all his gear from OoT.
I'd rather control characters I know who lost all their shit in a freak accident and continue their story than get a new protagonist every time a new installment comes out.
Thing is it's not as though its happening every single game for those ('cept Samus, obviously, but that's the suit losing powers. I'd assume Jedi stuff would be different. And gaining powers is the whole point of Metroid games).
Kyle was fine the first few times. The series needed something new by Academy (and didn't really get anything ggod )
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I agree, I don't think FF9 would've worked without Zidane as the lead. I also love that he isn't your typical RPG hero 'boy scout'. He isn't above coping a feel of the princess :rotate:
I am a freaking nerd.
I played an indie game like that. It was more of a toy than a game.
In SMAC, Planet is more of just an overwhelming influence in all aspects of the game. A force to be respected at all times as you build an empire. No matter what you do, Planet will go on. You can work with it or try and be against it (HA HA!).
Umm...
Yeah, pretty much. But even then, if you'd given the rest of the cast development equal to what the non-major characters get in other FFs and left Zidane as-is, likewise it'd fall flat on it's face. Like I said, FF9 is really an ensemble piece with Zidane acting as the glue that sticks them all together.
Quina is optional in the first disk, but you have to pick him/her up in the second. Amarant enters very late in the game really and gets a lot of development considering, but even then, he's the mysterious character who doesn't have masses of background. Man.
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Heh, yeah, characters get a much more even amount of development in 9 than most other titles. It did remind me a lot of 6, which is why its one of my favorite FFs.
I am a freaking nerd.
Completely off topic, but this game featured "War" by system of a down, i was trying to remeber what game this was.
hmm, i would say what about games based of the ones you have to escort, so instead of the ai fucking you over, you could fuck the person escorting you over. act and play as a human meat sheild!
Now, I love FFT. Particularly because as the story goes, the entire plot stresses that you play an integral role in the fate of two kingdoms and are left as less than a footnote of history. However, I'd like to see a game that shows Delita's rise to power from his own point of view. To see how he gets from one scene to the next.
Skies fans know what I'm talking about here.
edit: that's weird, wikipedia images are showing up as links.
Everyone knows Zidane is an ass-man.
Neither are optional. You have the option of having Quina join early, but you're still required to have him/her join eventually. But considering his lack of prescence in the game, Amarant might as well have been optional.
I do wish Freya got more focus, though. Seems there always has to be one or two characters that fade into the background. Or in FFXII's case, the whole blooming cast.
Anyway, my next choice is for the Xenosaga series.
or
or
or
or hell, even
and
would've made far better, interesting, cooler, and 99% less bitchy main characters than
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Have you forgotten the great Firaxian Faction?
I forget if Sid is actually the leader or not, but it's his name (and Brian) that unlocks it.
Actually, now that you mention it, you're right. Any of the playable characters besides Shion would have been better as the main.
Let 'em eat fucking pineapples!
Dance for me!
Also, that dude with the machine gun from Final Fantasy 8.
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So a Zelda EBA? What else could you do with that?
While I am obviously gay for Gilder, I don't think he could've worked as the main character. He just.... wasn't complicated enough I guess. I don't really imagine him recruiting a team and fighting an ultimate evil. Just other pirates but nothing on a world destruction level. However if the girls from FFX can get a spin-off game, then Gilder could totally get a spin-off game where it is your duty to travel around and help out fine ladies all over the skies and then every time you're about to get a kiss or something, that one woman that loved Gilder shows up and you must be off to your next adventure!
Anyway, I'll say Guy from Tales of the Abyss. We could've found out a little more backstory and it would've made things a bit less emo. He actually plays more like every other main character from the Tales series because he learns a lot of the classic moves like Beast and Sword Rain so it makes sense.
Other choices:
Enter the Matrix (This is so obvious I'm surprised no one brought it up yet)
Donkey Kong Country 3 (Seriously, who EVER wanted to play as Baby Kong? He's like Donkey Kong without the history, personality, and potty training)
Katamari Damacy (Okay, maybe not as MAIN character, but I'm just sayin', they should at least add a minigame where you get to play as the King, get wasted, and trash the galaxy)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (Again, perhaps not in place of the main game, but it would have been great to have a second quest that follows Zelda/Sheik)
Also, we need a first person Magnum only Zombie shooting simulator starring Barry Burton featuring all of his quotes from the first game.
"Don't worry... I've got this!
Or maybe a Chief Irons taxidermy simulator?
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Oh put a sock in it. Luigi's Mansion is a fantastic game.
And the Mario & Luigi games are as much his as they are Mario's.
On a side note, it's odd that in many cases the main character in games is the least interesting character, while in movies he/she is supposed to be the most likeable.
It would have been like firing up the newest Splinter Cell, and then after three or four hours of Sam Fisher you had to play the rest of the game as Screech, and having Lisa Turtle bitch at you every five minutes about how he can't remember that today is the anniversary of when they met at The Max.
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This, on the other hand, is the best idea ever.
A thousand times yes.
So does my pet rock. :rotate:
I am a freaking nerd.
But '...' mirrored my own feelings quite nicely. I don't think I could stomach going along with Seifer's frequently retarded decisions. He's more emo than Squall a lot of the time.
(He's still cool though)
Well, at least in the first one.
I'll definitely second Zidane being the best for IX's lead. He's one of a kind, and while I love Freya, she's best as a supporter.
As for Amarant... I could be wrong on this, but I think I remember him and Freya having something.
VIII? Quistis.
Freya and Amarant was kinda sorta hinted at, but I think that was mostly 'hey lets have ALL the characters have relationships with each other' Especially didn't make sense with Freya's pineing for amenesia man.
I am a freaking nerd.
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subjected people to carry arms, history shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subjected peoples to carry arms have prepared their own fall"
- Adolf Hitler, Edict of March 18, 1938.
Not a guy, but I still have a great time playing a new Metroid every time Samus loses some (or all) of her powers.
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow is great even though Soma lost all his souls and levels from AoS.
Majora's Mask is great even though young link doesn't have all his gear from OoT.
I'd rather control characters I know who lost all their shit in a freak accident and continue their story than get a new protagonist every time a new installment comes out.
I'm going to assume you mean "suck" literally so I don't have to smash your kneecaps.
Thing is it's not as though its happening every single game for those ('cept Samus, obviously, but that's the suit losing powers. I'd assume Jedi stuff would be different. And gaining powers is the whole point of Metroid games).
Kyle was fine the first few times. The series needed something new by Academy (and didn't really get anything ggod