There is an entomologist ex-beekeeper around here who used to live in some African country. He originally went there as part of the Peace Corps. He left soon after his beekeeping business was taken away from him under one of those anti-white ethnic nationalist things. I believe the business soon fell apart due to the lack of anyone qualified to run it properly.
There is an entomologist ex-beekeeper around here who used to live in some African country. He originally went there as part of the Peace Corps. He left soon after his beekeeping business was taken away from him under one of those anti-white ethnic nationalist things. I believe the business soon fell apart due to the lack of anyone qualified to run it properly.
Keeping African bees requires balls.
This reminded me that I saw a car with a 'Kony 2012' bumper sticker yesterday.
I've wanted the opening few bars from little green bag as a ringtone for years. But I'm lazy.
Mine is still Lost woods from Ocarina of time.
So far, the best ringtone I've ever had.
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I wanted to use a part of Terminal March from the Bastion Soundtrack as my ringtone by A) I never turn the ringer on and The ringtone never works because my cellphone is poop from a butt.
Dear Ms. Manners,
I'd like to get oral pleasure from my girlfriend but she seems oblivious to my needs. Even after I've bought her flowers, taken her out to dinner, and treated her to front seats at her favorite musical, she hasn't clued in to the fact that I enjoy a little attention below my belt every now and then. How can I politely send a hint regarding my wants?
Gus
Dear Gus,
Tell her you want a blowjob.
Ms. Manners
Believe me, I am hardly going to be righteously demanding that a majority culture cease to enforce its domination on a minority culture.
It's the self-righteous preening that gets to me. The smiling insistence that this is for your own good, don't you know, that the state must most regretfully harass your businesses and your schools and prevent you from setting up any new businesses or schools because that would be colonialism, don't you want to integrate? And that anything resistance is hateful bigotry against them because, don't you know, the British brought your great-grandfathers here and no matter what, no matter whether we give you citizenship and an ID card and let you keep your schools and neighbourhoods and churches for now, you will always, and forever, be guests here in our homeland. We stand equal as citizens - as long you obey us always. And in the thoroughly unfortunate event that you defy us, well, we will come with our knives and expel you from this land forever.
Because this is Malaysia, and it is the homeland of the Malays.
But don't worry, we will definitely be thoroughly reasonable in arbitrating any disputes when we outnumber you nine to one instead of two to one.
I think you're projecting a lot about the Quebec issues.
Possibly. But, conversely, I think you're failing to be objective.
You, at least, are aware that the linguistic nationalism isn't quite as pure in thought as one would prefer - that there is some scrabbling around for excuses to harass people who, inconveniently, do speak French. Therefore: headdress laws. But I was quite stunned when notdroid whipped out "masters in our own home" and then said that it isn't based in xenophobia and racism.
Well, it's not, actually, about xenophobia in that context. have you read his post?
This was said in a time period where the high earners were anglophones and where francophones were not even allowed to get promotion and refused service for speaking french. Not for not speaking english, but for speaking French in the first place.
The French Canadians have been an underclass for a loooong-ass time since the British won the war.
i mean, i don't see what's so abhorrent about forcing public services to serve Francophones when Francophones are the majority in the province. Especially when, historically, being a Francophone was reason enough to refuse service.
aaaand?
I mean, there's a reason I invoked this marvellously analagous situation.
What can i say, i'm dense.
What is abhorrent about forcing public services to serve francophones in french and what's the optimal situation?
There is nothing abhorrent about that, actually. The obvious question is whether the minority Anglophones will served in English, and whether they will continue to be served in English in the future, after decades of demographic engineering with the deliberate end of ensuring Francophone dominance in the political process.
Even failing to do that is not necessarily problematic, conditional on some self-awareness that one is, in fact, trying to remove a minority culture because it's not part of your national identity. It is one thing to harass people into emigration via threats and hostility and a thousand cuts on your businesses and schools; it is quite another to do so while patting yourself on the back for how kind you are whilst doing so.
Sometimes the gains from cultural engineering are enormous, and it may be well worth pursuing forced assimilation just to avoid decades of simmering violence. As I said, I am hardly going to say that this is inherently vile. It's the hypocrisy that I find repellent. At the very least, the awareness that you are doing something that imposes large costs on your ethnic minority should deter you from hand-wringing about the ill-treatment your great-grandfathers got.
i am fairly sure public services in Quebec have to be offered in both French AND English. i know all federal services have to be offered in both.
The threats thing i really don't agree with (I am quite against the charter for forced secularism hiding as the charter of Quebec Values.) As far as i know, there aren't any cuts against businesses owned by ethnic groups. Hell, i'm not advocating against immigrants keeping their culture, i'm merely for immigrants learning French in order to be able to function outside their communities. And i don't think it's by forcing them but rather by giving them incentives to do so that will work.
It is for their own good to learn French, but it's not by forcing them with threats.
hope we can agree on that...
You may like to peruse this page. If you say: I don't see how any of these could impose any costs on minority businesses or minority employees, substitute "English" for "French" throughout and read it again.
It is not possible for an Anglophone to operate an Anglophone business employing fifty Anglophones without submitting to Francization, even if all of them are in western Montreal. The rights of the Francophone who may one day work there are too important.
The geography of Canada means that most of its people stay in the warmer south, and both Quebec City and Montreal have substantial Anglophone communities. Unfortunately, this means that immigrants can function outside their communities by learning English; indeed, if they could, they probably would do so. Immigration to Canada draws extensively from Anglicized societies elsewhere in the world. And because Quebec has sub-replacement fertility, we both know that a flow of immigrants adopting English instead of French would steadily erode the Francophone numerical majority. It is for this reason that your language law prevents immigrants from sending their children to English medium schools.
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Believe me, I am hardly going to be righteously demanding that a majority culture cease to enforce its domination on a minority culture.
It's the self-righteous preening that gets to me. The smiling insistence that this is for your own good, don't you know, that the state must most regretfully harass your businesses and your schools and prevent you from setting up any new businesses or schools because that would be colonialism, don't you want to integrate? And that anything resistance is hateful bigotry against them because, don't you know, the British brought your great-grandfathers here and no matter what, no matter whether we give you citizenship and an ID card and let you keep your schools and neighbourhoods and churches for now, you will always, and forever, be guests here in our homeland. We stand equal as citizens - as long you obey us always. And in the thoroughly unfortunate event that you defy us, well, we will come with our knives and expel you from this land forever.
Because this is Malaysia, and it is the homeland of the Malays.
But don't worry, we will definitely be thoroughly reasonable in arbitrating any disputes when we outnumber you nine to one instead of two to one.
I think you're projecting a lot about the Quebec issues.
Possibly. But, conversely, I think you're failing to be objective.
You, at least, are aware that the linguistic nationalism isn't quite as pure in thought as one would prefer - that there is some scrabbling around for excuses to harass people who, inconveniently, do speak French. Therefore: headdress laws. But I was quite stunned when notdroid whipped out "masters in our own home" and then said that it isn't based in xenophobia and racism.
Well, it's not, actually, about xenophobia in that context. have you read his post?
This was said in a time period where the high earners were anglophones and where francophones were not even allowed to get promotion and refused service for speaking french. Not for not speaking english, but for speaking French in the first place.
The French Canadians have been an underclass for a loooong-ass time since the British won the war.
i mean, i don't see what's so abhorrent about forcing public services to serve Francophones when Francophones are the majority in the province. Especially when, historically, being a Francophone was reason enough to refuse service.
aaaand?
I mean, there's a reason I invoked this marvellously analagous situation.
What can i say, i'm dense.
What is abhorrent about forcing public services to serve francophones in french and what's the optimal situation?
There is nothing abhorrent about that, actually. The obvious question is whether the minority Anglophones will served in English, and whether they will continue to be served in English in the future, after decades of demographic engineering with the deliberate end of ensuring Francophone dominance in the political process.
Even failing to do that is not necessarily problematic, conditional on some self-awareness that one is, in fact, trying to remove a minority culture because it's not part of your national identity. It is one thing to harass people into emigration via threats and hostility and a thousand cuts on your businesses and schools; it is quite another to do so while patting yourself on the back for how kind you are whilst doing so.
Sometimes the gains from cultural engineering are enormous, and it may be well worth pursuing forced assimilation just to avoid decades of simmering violence. As I said, I am hardly going to say that this is inherently vile. It's the hypocrisy that I find repellent. At the very least, the awareness that you are doing something that imposes large costs on your ethnic minority should deter you from hand-wringing about the ill-treatment your great-grandfathers got.
i am fairly sure public services in Quebec have to be offered in both French AND English. i know all federal services have to be offered in both.
The threats thing i really don't agree with (I am quite against the charter for forced secularism hiding as the charter of Quebec Values.) As far as i know, there aren't any cuts against businesses owned by ethnic groups. Hell, i'm not advocating against immigrants keeping their culture, i'm merely for immigrants learning French in order to be able to function outside their communities. And i don't think it's by forcing them but rather by giving them incentives to do so that will work.
It is for their own good to learn French, but it's not by forcing them with threats.
hope we can agree on that...
You may like to peruse this page. If you say: I don't see how any of these could impose any costs on minority businesses or minority employees, substitute "English" for "French" throughout and read it again.
It is not possible for an Anglophone to operate an Anglophone business employing fifty Anglophones without submitting to Francization, even if all of them are in western Montreal. The rights of the Francophone who may one day work there are too important.
The geography of Canada means that most of its people stay in the warmer south, and both Quebec City and Montreal have substantial Anglophone communities. Unfortunately, this means that immigrants can function outside their communities by learning English; indeed, if they could, they probably would do so. Immigration to Canada draws extensively from Anglicized societies elsewhere in the world. And because Quebec has sub-replacement fertility, we both know that a flow of immigrants adopting English instead of French would steadily erode the Francophone numerical majority. It is for this reason that your language law prevents immigrants from sending their children to English medium schools.
I doubt we'll see eye-to-eye on this, but i think it's important that businesses be able to serve people in French and i think it's important that Quebec keeps it's language.
The language laws are far from perfect, i know that, but language is kind of a huge part of the culture, and culture is kind of a hugely important thing to, well, most people.
Believe me, I am hardly going to be righteously demanding that a majority culture cease to enforce its domination on a minority culture.
It's the self-righteous preening that gets to me. The smiling insistence that this is for your own good, don't you know, that the state must most regretfully harass your businesses and your schools and prevent you from setting up any new businesses or schools because that would be colonialism, don't you want to integrate? And that anything resistance is hateful bigotry against them because, don't you know, the British brought your great-grandfathers here and no matter what, no matter whether we give you citizenship and an ID card and let you keep your schools and neighbourhoods and churches for now, you will always, and forever, be guests here in our homeland. We stand equal as citizens - as long you obey us always. And in the thoroughly unfortunate event that you defy us, well, we will come with our knives and expel you from this land forever.
Because this is Malaysia, and it is the homeland of the Malays.
But don't worry, we will definitely be thoroughly reasonable in arbitrating any disputes when we outnumber you nine to one instead of two to one.
I think you're projecting a lot about the Quebec issues.
Possibly. But, conversely, I think you're failing to be objective.
You, at least, are aware that the linguistic nationalism isn't quite as pure in thought as one would prefer - that there is some scrabbling around for excuses to harass people who, inconveniently, do speak French. Therefore: headdress laws. But I was quite stunned when notdroid whipped out "masters in our own home" and then said that it isn't based in xenophobia and racism.
Well, it's not, actually, about xenophobia in that context. have you read his post?
This was said in a time period where the high earners were anglophones and where francophones were not even allowed to get promotion and refused service for speaking french. Not for not speaking english, but for speaking French in the first place.
The French Canadians have been an underclass for a loooong-ass time since the British won the war.
i mean, i don't see what's so abhorrent about forcing public services to serve Francophones when Francophones are the majority in the province. Especially when, historically, being a Francophone was reason enough to refuse service.
aaaand?
I mean, there's a reason I invoked this marvellously analagous situation.
What can i say, i'm dense.
What is abhorrent about forcing public services to serve francophones in french and what's the optimal situation?
There is nothing abhorrent about that, actually. The obvious question is whether the minority Anglophones will served in English, and whether they will continue to be served in English in the future, after decades of demographic engineering with the deliberate end of ensuring Francophone dominance in the political process.
Even failing to do that is not necessarily problematic, conditional on some self-awareness that one is, in fact, trying to remove a minority culture because it's not part of your national identity. It is one thing to harass people into emigration via threats and hostility and a thousand cuts on your businesses and schools; it is quite another to do so while patting yourself on the back for how kind you are whilst doing so.
Sometimes the gains from cultural engineering are enormous, and it may be well worth pursuing forced assimilation just to avoid decades of simmering violence. As I said, I am hardly going to say that this is inherently vile. It's the hypocrisy that I find repellent. At the very least, the awareness that you are doing something that imposes large costs on your ethnic minority should deter you from hand-wringing about the ill-treatment your great-grandfathers got.
i am fairly sure public services in Quebec have to be offered in both French AND English. i know all federal services have to be offered in both.
The threats thing i really don't agree with (I am quite against the charter for forced secularism hiding as the charter of Quebec Values.) As far as i know, there aren't any cuts against businesses owned by ethnic groups. Hell, i'm not advocating against immigrants keeping their culture, i'm merely for immigrants learning French in order to be able to function outside their communities. And i don't think it's by forcing them but rather by giving them incentives to do so that will work.
It is for their own good to learn French, but it's not by forcing them with threats.
hope we can agree on that...
You may like to peruse this page. If you say: I don't see how any of these could impose any costs on minority businesses or minority employees, substitute "English" for "French" throughout and read it again.
It is not possible for an Anglophone to operate an Anglophone business employing fifty Anglophones without submitting to Francization, even if all of them are in western Montreal. The rights of the Francophone who may one day work there are too important.
The geography of Canada means that most of its people stay in the warmer south, and both Quebec City and Montreal have substantial Anglophone communities. Unfortunately, this means that immigrants can function outside their communities by learning English; indeed, if they could, they probably would do so. Immigration to Canada draws extensively from Anglicized societies elsewhere in the world. And because Quebec has sub-replacement fertility, we both know that a flow of immigrants adopting English instead of French would steadily erode the Francophone numerical majority. It is for this reason that your language law prevents immigrants from sending their children to English medium schools.
I doubt we'll see eye-to-eye on this, but i think it's important that businesses be able to serve people in French and i think it's important that Quebec keeps it's language.
The language laws are far from perfect, i know that, but language is kind of a huge part of the culture, and culture is kind of a hugely important thing to, well, most people.
You've said so before.
I do trust that is obvious that if your answer to "but this is an injustice" is "but it's important Quebec keeps its language", then you are acknowledging that Anglophone Quebecers should not have a right to influence what that language is.
Like I wrote in my original snark: we stand equal as citizens, but only if you obey us always.
ronya on
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HerrCronIt that wickedly supports taxationRegistered Userregular
Edit: 21st - great choice, turn that ringer on and up!
Like i said, it doesn't work.
Because i have a shitty phone.
But when i get a new one, i might change that!
Excellent.
That said, i might change my ringtone from Lost Woods to that piece from Bastion
it's a good one!
To be fair the bastion soundtrack is probably the best thing about that game.
And that's saying something considering how good everything else in that game was.
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maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
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I will have the broadband in 12 days.
Keeping African bees requires balls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ik-RsDGPI5Y
Best track from a Tarantino film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b1wt3-zpzQ&noredirect=1
This reminded me that I saw a car with a 'Kony 2012' bumper sticker yesterday.
The look one the faces in this scene always makes me grin.
Mine is still Lost woods from Ocarina of time.
So far, the best ringtone I've ever had.
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maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
Good choice!
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But i never leave the ringer on, i find it too distracting.
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excellent selection -- mine used to be guile's theme and is currently wily's stage theme from megaman 2
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Both excellent choiches.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCjyiEOZP44&noredirect=1
NO REGRETS!
Edit: 21st - great choice, turn that ringer on and up!
Like i said, it doesn't work.
Because i have a shitty phone.
But when i get a new one, i might change that!
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I'd like to get oral pleasure from my girlfriend but she seems oblivious to my needs. Even after I've bought her flowers, taken her out to dinner, and treated her to front seats at her favorite musical, she hasn't clued in to the fact that I enjoy a little attention below my belt every now and then. How can I politely send a hint regarding my wants?
Gus
Dear Gus,
Tell her you want a blowjob.
Ms. Manners
You may like to peruse this page. If you say: I don't see how any of these could impose any costs on minority businesses or minority employees, substitute "English" for "French" throughout and read it again.
It is not possible for an Anglophone to operate an Anglophone business employing fifty Anglophones without submitting to Francization, even if all of them are in western Montreal. The rights of the Francophone who may one day work there are too important.
The geography of Canada means that most of its people stay in the warmer south, and both Quebec City and Montreal have substantial Anglophone communities. Unfortunately, this means that immigrants can function outside their communities by learning English; indeed, if they could, they probably would do so. Immigration to Canada draws extensively from Anglicized societies elsewhere in the world. And because Quebec has sub-replacement fertility, we both know that a flow of immigrants adopting English instead of French would steadily erode the Francophone numerical majority. It is for this reason that your language law prevents immigrants from sending their children to English medium schools.
Excellent.
That said, i might change my ringtone from Lost Woods to that piece from Bastion
I doubt we'll see eye-to-eye on this, but i think it's important that businesses be able to serve people in French and i think it's important that Quebec keeps it's language.
The language laws are far from perfect, i know that, but language is kind of a huge part of the culture, and culture is kind of a hugely important thing to, well, most people.
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it's a good one!
Check out my site, the Bismuth Heart | My Twitter
You've said so before.
I do trust that is obvious that if your answer to "but this is an injustice" is "but it's important Quebec keeps its language", then you are acknowledging that Anglophone Quebecers should not have a right to influence what that language is.
Like I wrote in my original snark: we stand equal as citizens, but only if you obey us always.
To be fair the bastion soundtrack is probably the best thing about that game.
And that's saying something considering how good everything else in that game was.
bought
twitch.tv/tehsloth
i want to change it to the drop from this but for some reason it's only on the UK itunes
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
my text message tone is a clip from helloween's ss2 playthrough ("why do they wave; stop waving, that's creepy")
and I have
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPVb0pomFJ0
as the ringtone
been meaning to cut it down to just the fanfare, but lazy