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He already had run through those scenarios though.
It's just, if the Doctor is saying he can win. Well.
How often has he won when everyone thinks he is full of it?
Every single time?
Do you just ignore the possibility?
It's because Mr. Clever was still, basically, a machine.
For all that he was created out of the Doctor, he'd lost the intuitive spark that made the Doctor who he is. He couldn't think outside the box, even with a million cybermen to help him think about it. Because he kept thinking about chess.
It was another character moment.
The reason that episode wasn't all that good isn't a single thing. It was that a two part story was cut down into one. Gaiman's stories are mutilayered things that need room to breathe and develop. It was like taking a delicious layered pastry, squashing it flat, then giving it to somebody to eat.
Yuck.
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...could be so stupid, but it is a very organic thing to think outside of the box. I do see how the cybermen could lose sight of that. It is like they lost their ability to use fuzzy logic.
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You can't bluff a cold, straight logic computer. But Mr. Clever was anything but cold, he was hot headed and had arrogance in spades. So yeah, I have no problem believing he could be tricked like that.
"I can win in 3 moves."
"No you can't."
"Yup."
"Dude, I can see every possible move. You're full of it.
"Well you've got all my memories. See how well it's worked out when people call my bluff."
"Yeah but... you... I... UGH!"
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
The Doctor has always had a special love of Batman Gambits...well, gambits of all stripe. Dude could win a poker game with god. Probably has in some media or another.
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Seriously. The dynamic between Tennant and Smith was so good. My friend and I turned to each other almost simultaneously and were like, "Can it just be like this all the time?"
Just...just give us one season. One season where the Doctor's companion is...the Doctor. Or bring Romana into nuWho or something. Double the Time Lords is double the fun!
Ok, yeah it'd probably get really old super fast. But a man can dream...
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I still really want to see them delve into the daughter concept.
Don't even bring her (10's wife) back, just the character.
Have her holding hands with a very young Susan.
Watched a video of a panel that happened right after the 50th anniversary special was shown in London where Moffat proved why he's the show runner when he fielded a question about what our world would be like without Doctor Who (the show) in it. I'm going to try to capture the essence of what he said because I'm at work and don't have access to the video and therefore am paraphrasing a bit, but it goes a little something like this:
"How do you talk about the importance of a fictional hero? How do you measure their impact on the world? I think they do have impact though and that heroes do matter because they tell us something about ourselves. History books, they tell us where we've been. Documentaries, news articles, things like that, they tell us where we are. Our heroes tell us where we'd like to go and a lot of our modern heroes depress me. But when they made this hero, they didn't give him a gun or a laser sword or something, they gave him a screwdriver for fixing things. And they didn't give him a tank or a superbase or an X-wing fighter, they gave him a mad box you can see the universe from. And his super powers aren't strength or heat rays or something like that. They gave him an extra heart. I mean, really, Doctor Who's greatest power is that he has extra heart. That is crazy and wonderful and we will never stop needing a hero like that. Happy birthday, Doctor Who!"
He was really getting choked up by the end there by the extra hearts buisness and, hell, I'm getting a little misty-eyed just thinking about it. Happy belated, Doctor. May you actually live to be tweleve hundred and something.
Personal Doctor Who sentimentality (spoilered for long...and unrepentantly sappy):
I grew up in the wilderness years, the dark times when there was no Doctor Who, but I still knew of the Doctor. My parents told me stories of how they'd come across this funny man with a great big scarf who took them away to see the universe. When they thought I was old enough to appriciate his company, I was introduced to the fourth Doctor as well, saved on old video tapes. The Pyramids of Mars was my first ever Doctor Who story. It was one of those things that will deeply impact who you become. I remember every inch of that story. I remember when I saw Stargate (the movie, not the show) several years later that it had ripped off that story, just like The Ark in Space feels oddly like a prototype for Alien.
But there were no new Doctors (well, none I knew about at any rate.) I was part of that generation that were the boys and girls who waited. I filled the gap for what I was looking for with Superman comics, but they were too violent and not quite as clever as I ever wanted them to be. Both Superman and the Doctor were important because I'd felt like an alien myself since I first entered grade school. I didn't know how to connect to people and I could see the value in the things they concerned themselves with. Probably didn't have a non-fictional friend until I was at least ten and even then only ever one at a time. All other fictional heroes who were outsiders were angry, resentful, borderline hateful of the status quo. I could see where they were coming from, but I just didn't want to be that. I didn't want to revel in my outsiderness, I just wanted to find a way to come to terms with it.
My generation were the boys and girls who waited, but we didn't wait in vain. The lights began to shine again and that distinct groaning sound came back and out stepped Eccleston and then Tennat and then Smith. Smith's Doctor especially resonated with me for some reason. Maybe because he was awkward in a way I relate to, or that we both have a vaguely anacronistic sense of style and decor or that when he got angry, he got really angry, or that we both just come across as far too old for the skin we wear...I dunno. But that guy is my Doctor and I'm so relieved that I get an opportunity to even have a Doctor all my own (erm, so to speak...)
The Doctor let me know that it was Ok to care about and for other people, even if they don't understand your deal. It seems stupid now, but it was like I always desperately wanted to help other people and to be an example for others who felt adrift, but it took seeing it in a mad old space wizard in a silly blue box before I decided that I could just do that. It's one of those things that has just become a fabric of my life now. When someone needs help, you never walk away. Not ever. You always find a better way and you always strive to make yourself a better person.
I don't know what I'd be like if I never met the Doctor, but I can tell you this: I don't think I'd like that guy half as much.
So, bring on Capaldi and new adventures and new worlds! I'm in this for the long haul and as long as that old blue box still runs, I'm never getting out.
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Back on subject: Night of the Doctor makes me extra-super sad Paul McGann got robbed out of his Doctor's televised run. His Big Finish stuff is outstanding too. I really like the 8th Doctor. My top five probably right now goes 11, 4, 8, 10, 7 although 7's arrival on that list is a recent turn of events and may only be because I watched The Curse of Fenric for the first time the other night.
Also, I went back and watched Smith and Jones (Martha was my favorite of 10's companions) and was stunned to find...that those episodes already feel old to me! Like they feel almost as dated and vaguely silly as Colin Baker's stuff did to me as a kid; too recent to be seen with a retro sheen, too old to feel modern and sleek and new. Not to say that they're bad. I laughed out loud at jokes I've heard a million times all the same, but they don't get me grinning from ear to ear like they used to. Maybe the 11th Doctor just spoiled me. Went and re-watched Day of the Doctor after that just so 10 wouldn't feel like I was giving him short shrift.
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For UK viewers, classic Doctor Who just turned up on the horror channel beginning with An UnEarthly Child, it'll repeat on Saturday at 12pm if (like me) you just found out. Apparently, they'll be showing stories from each of the classic Doctors.
My money is on August or September. You know how these things go. I'm making the waiting bareable by walking all my room mates through Matt Smith's era one at a time. Should have the whole household caught up in time for Capaldi's first proper episode. I'm still plugging away at the classics too. Watched Tomb of the Cybermen the other night and the Doctor figured out their tech works based on calculus and started excitedly shouting with another scientist about math things. One of my room mates was in the room who has taken really advanced math and I asked him if it was even close to right and he said, "Well, the terms are right. It'd be kind of like if I said cupbord, bread, toaster, breakfast. You'd know what I meant, but there's a lot of stuff missing."
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Also: at the risk of exposing myself to be a "dirty casual" the Doctor Who Legacy cell phone game is actually pretty fun if you like both puzzle quest and doctor who. That's basically what it is. Good range of collectables from multiple incarnations of the doctors, to different costumes for those doctors, different companions that provide you different benefits whilst puzzling. I wish they'd gotten a slightly more skilled artist because everyone looks a bit...off, but it's a good bit of fun that keeps my bus rides to and from work from feeling quite so tedious.
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I take it that pic was from a convention. They went through St. Louis too. Apparently, they are running the circuit. I missed them. I did get to see a panel with Nathan Fillion and the Firefly guys though.
It is kind of surreal when you see actors in person.
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It's just, if the Doctor is saying he can win. Well.
How often has he won when everyone thinks he is full of it?
Every single time?
Do you just ignore the possibility?
It's because Mr. Clever was still, basically, a machine.
It was another character moment.
The reason that episode wasn't all that good isn't a single thing. It was that a two part story was cut down into one. Gaiman's stories are mutilayered things that need room to breathe and develop. It was like taking a delicious layered pastry, squashing it flat, then giving it to somebody to eat.
Yuck.
"I can win in 3 moves."
"No you can't."
"Yup."
"Dude, I can see every possible move. You're full of it.
"Well you've got all my memories. See how well it's worked out when people call my bluff."
"Yeah but... you... I... UGH!"
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Lots of yelling, 'THAT IS ILLOGICAL! WE REALLY HATE EMOTION!'
If someone, e.g. The Doctor, actually pointed that out, it would be cool. But nobody ever does.
I didn't realize there was a Thanksgiving Special until yesterday.
Suddenly, the Christmas special has a lot more context.
Did someone say Exterminatus!?
I've got my virus bombs prepped and my finest Inquisitorial suit all pressed and ready!
You mean the 50th Anniversary Special?
Just...just give us one season. One season where the Doctor's companion is...the Doctor. Or bring Romana into nuWho or something. Double the Time Lords is double the fun!
Ok, yeah it'd probably get really old super fast. But a man can dream...
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Don't even bring her (10's wife) back, just the character.
Have her holding hands with a very young Susan.
"How do you talk about the importance of a fictional hero? How do you measure their impact on the world? I think they do have impact though and that heroes do matter because they tell us something about ourselves. History books, they tell us where we've been. Documentaries, news articles, things like that, they tell us where we are. Our heroes tell us where we'd like to go and a lot of our modern heroes depress me. But when they made this hero, they didn't give him a gun or a laser sword or something, they gave him a screwdriver for fixing things. And they didn't give him a tank or a superbase or an X-wing fighter, they gave him a mad box you can see the universe from. And his super powers aren't strength or heat rays or something like that. They gave him an extra heart. I mean, really, Doctor Who's greatest power is that he has extra heart. That is crazy and wonderful and we will never stop needing a hero like that. Happy birthday, Doctor Who!"
He was really getting choked up by the end there by the extra hearts buisness and, hell, I'm getting a little misty-eyed just thinking about it. Happy belated, Doctor. May you actually live to be tweleve hundred and something.
Personal Doctor Who sentimentality (spoilered for long...and unrepentantly sappy):
But there were no new Doctors (well, none I knew about at any rate.) I was part of that generation that were the boys and girls who waited. I filled the gap for what I was looking for with Superman comics, but they were too violent and not quite as clever as I ever wanted them to be. Both Superman and the Doctor were important because I'd felt like an alien myself since I first entered grade school. I didn't know how to connect to people and I could see the value in the things they concerned themselves with. Probably didn't have a non-fictional friend until I was at least ten and even then only ever one at a time. All other fictional heroes who were outsiders were angry, resentful, borderline hateful of the status quo. I could see where they were coming from, but I just didn't want to be that. I didn't want to revel in my outsiderness, I just wanted to find a way to come to terms with it.
My generation were the boys and girls who waited, but we didn't wait in vain. The lights began to shine again and that distinct groaning sound came back and out stepped Eccleston and then Tennat and then Smith. Smith's Doctor especially resonated with me for some reason. Maybe because he was awkward in a way I relate to, or that we both have a vaguely anacronistic sense of style and decor or that when he got angry, he got really angry, or that we both just come across as far too old for the skin we wear...I dunno. But that guy is my Doctor and I'm so relieved that I get an opportunity to even have a Doctor all my own (erm, so to speak...)
The Doctor let me know that it was Ok to care about and for other people, even if they don't understand your deal. It seems stupid now, but it was like I always desperately wanted to help other people and to be an example for others who felt adrift, but it took seeing it in a mad old space wizard in a silly blue box before I decided that I could just do that. It's one of those things that has just become a fabric of my life now. When someone needs help, you never walk away. Not ever. You always find a better way and you always strive to make yourself a better person.
I don't know what I'd be like if I never met the Doctor, but I can tell you this: I don't think I'd like that guy half as much.
So, bring on Capaldi and new adventures and new worlds! I'm in this for the long haul and as long as that old blue box still runs, I'm never getting out.
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In this case it is understanding.
I cannot comment on the other times.
Also considering human nature I'm betting a lot of people just think of it as "That new funny looking Bro button"
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It is all three.
All three at once.
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Its official use, of course, is for when your psychic precognition leaves you in a situation involving wacky hijinks and/or shenanigans.
But, you know. Linguistic drift.
Why I fear the ocean.
Also, I went back and watched Smith and Jones (Martha was my favorite of 10's companions) and was stunned to find...that those episodes already feel old to me! Like they feel almost as dated and vaguely silly as Colin Baker's stuff did to me as a kid; too recent to be seen with a retro sheen, too old to feel modern and sleek and new. Not to say that they're bad. I laughed out loud at jokes I've heard a million times all the same, but they don't get me grinning from ear to ear like they used to. Maybe the 11th Doctor just spoiled me. Went and re-watched Day of the Doctor after that just so 10 wouldn't feel like I was giving him short shrift.
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Edit: According to Wikipedia, it seems like it is in July.
it's gonna be a full run again tho, no split season.
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Agent Smith meets the Doctor.
I don't think the world is ready.
It is kind of surreal when you see actors in person.
That wig has actually ended up somewhere interesting now, too.
And yes, Karen is visual viagra.
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