MorninglordI'm tired of being Batman,so today I'll be Owl.Registered Userregular
edited July 2014
Haha I've also got a psi sniper that I'm training up and he spends more of his time waving his hands mysteriously at enemies than he does looking through a scope.
Also my untouchable Nix came within 4 hitpoints of being killed outright and that scared me shitless.
Since squadsight allows critical hits in EU she's easily the most powerful part of my team. She carries everybody.
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The answer to sectopods is proximity mines. When you hear the THUMP THUMP WHOOOM of sectopod feet, get yourself a nice stack of prox mines up against a wall like a rat trap. Pull the thing back into them and it should take a pretty significant chunk of damage.
Or, alternatively, get yourself an assault with an alloy cannon, shoot it from 2 tiles away twice, and then give it a falcon punch with your MEC. Falcon punch > sectopods.
The answer to sectopods is proximity mines. When you hear the THUMP THUMP WHOOOM of sectopod feet, get yourself a nice stack of prox mines up against a wall like a rat trap. Pull the thing back into them and it should take a pretty significant chunk of damage.
Or, alternatively, get yourself an assault with an alloy cannon, shoot it from 2 tiles away twice, and then give it a falcon punch with your MEC. Falcon punch > sectopods.
Falcon Punching Sectopods is not ideal, since your MEC will take damage from the explosion. It's not like punching Cyberdisks where you turn them into a fastball special.
sometimes you gotta eat sectopod explosion because otherwise your entire team is eating sectopod rockets to the face. or laser blasts. Or whatever it is they fire.
Eh, the sectopod explosion doesn't usually cut through the armor on a MEC. In the base game, MECs only have like 6 or 7 HP base and then + 20 or whatever from armor. Eating 8 damage on your MEC is better than eating 10 on whatever the sectopod decides to shoot.
1) The air war is bullshit and basically unwinnable. I am upgrading my fighters as fast as humanly possible and the enemy still consistently shoots down my satellites with basically no possible way to retaliate. Not with 4 interceptors set to hunt fighters. This is the second successful satellite interception i've had in one month(month 3) and the third one they've tried. On top of that there is, more or less, no way to recover from the terror gained... except raid the bases that they create... which you can't do without shooting down enemy aircraft... which you can't do without satellites... (plus the satellites are expensive)... which you can't have because the enemy just shoots them down... which you can't stop because the enemy flys too many satellite interception missions
2) Too many seekers. They just plain unfun bullshit. A few is OK because you can scan them out, but when its 3+ groups its just "hunker down and hope that they don't decide to take random flanking shots instead" because you almost cannot take enough scanners in any group and because even if you do scan them they offer no interesting tactical choices because they're flying (permanent low cover equivalent) and will simply flank you. If you buy the "can't be strangled items" it just means that seekers just flank you more which is in many ways counter productive.
3) I really hate overwatch on discovery and there isn't a way to turn it off.
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2) my solution to the seeker issue is Training roulette I guess. trying to hit the sweet spot of scanners still but I guess it is between 3-4. also depends heavily on the mission type and what else I can bring.
I can dig seekers. well, once you can reliably kill them.
1) I guess it is just set that way so you lose satellites to make stealth satellites actually worth the investment because non-LW it is not needed at all. fuck, if I am grinding in expansion/vanilla I'll gladly take the extra UFO downed.
also you develope your sat game differently in LW imho. you need 5-6 un-upgraded interceptors per continent to contain small UFOs. this means you do not get to go for a second continent bonus right away. let's say you start in Europe. the first two satellites you launch are going to launch in Europe because you can protect them. branching out to a different continent is very expensive initially because you need interceptors there first that can handle the defense
3) on floaters? floaters love overwatch until they can pull off bullshit flank shots. this makes fucked up situations worse for you and good situations better. if you hear that floaters are close by you need to brace yourself. remember those 3-4 battlescanners you brought? one of those packs is now not a seeker pack. you just got a free BS to try to exploit.
I don't like the extra damage randomisation. The explosives change (distance from impact) I'm fine with, but when dropping an AP grenade directly on someone's head does 6 damage one turn and 2 damage the next (without DR) it kinda pisses me off. And then another enemy caught at the very edge of the blast still takes 3 damage. Ugh.
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1) The air war is bullshit and basically unwinnable. I am upgrading my fighters as fast as humanly possible and the enemy still consistently shoots down my satellites with basically no possible way to retaliate. Not with 4 interceptors set to hunt fighters. This is the second successful satellite interception i've had in one month(month 3) and the third one they've tried. On top of that there is, more or less, no way to recover from the terror gained... except raid the bases that they create... which you can't do without shooting down enemy aircraft... which you can't do without satellites... (plus the satellites are expensive)... which you can't have because the enemy just shoots them down... which you can't stop because the enemy flys too many satellite interception missions
2) Too many seekers. They just plain unfun bullshit. A few is OK because you can scan them out, but when its 3+ groups its just "hunker down and hope that they don't decide to take random flanking shots instead" because you almost cannot take enough scanners in any group and because even if you do scan them they offer no interesting tactical choices because they're flying (permanent low cover equivalent) and will simply flank you. If you buy the "can't be strangled items" it just means that seekers just flank you more which is in many ways counter productive.
3) I really hate overwatch on discovery and there isn't a way to turn it off.
Well, you'll be happy to know that I have the solution to all your problems (except 2 and 3).
It's called editing the .ini file on two specific points: Air repair time and money earned from missions.
I halved the repair time for fighters, so that a single hit constitutes 3 days of repair and a max of 15 days of repair for almost destroyed. This makes the air game a lot better. You don't down UFO's any faster than before, but you aren't unbelievably punish for mere attempting to shoot down that seeking UFO.
I upped the money earned from doing abduction mission from 100 to 300 (you don't get 300 all time. Only on swarming missions). In the beginning (and due to my Africa bonus) this meant a pretty big income and I was able to rush build my base and get 2 thermo generators up and running.
But it began to even out as countries left the XCOM project. At the moment I have Africa and South America locked down with only 2 countries in Europe. Rest are gone. This gives me an estimated income of 250-300 funbucks after expensives deducted. With EXALT draining my money, I still hit -200 to -300 once in a while which really hurts even if I can take an abduction mission to get money.
However, here's the kicker: by intercepting abductor UFOs and getting them to land, I get to raid the UFO but I won't get any substantial amount of money since I need to parts to tech or build stuff. So it becomes a choice between available funds and possible salvage for future missions.
I find these changes overall better for the enjoyment of LW. I really like the different classes, abilities, Mecs, gear and different enemy composition. I also like the air combat, but it was very unforgiving with the original settings. With these new settings, I can at least feel challenged tactically and strategically without feeling like I am banging my head against the wall (air specifically).
2) my solution to the seeker issue is Training roulette I guess. trying to hit the sweet spot of scanners still but I guess it is between 3-4. also depends heavily on the mission type and what else I can bring.
I can dig seekers. well, once you can reliably kill them.
1) I guess it is just set that way so you lose satellites to make stealth satellites actually worth the investment because non-LW it is not needed at all. fuck, if I am grinding in expansion/vanilla I'll gladly take the extra UFO downed.
also you develope your sat game differently in LW imho. you need 5-6 un-upgraded interceptors per continent to contain small UFOs. this means you do not get to go for a second continent bonus right away. let's say you start in Europe. the first two satellites you launch are going to launch in Europe because you can protect them. branching out to a different continent is very expensive initially because you need interceptors there first that can handle the defense
3) on floaters? floaters love overwatch until they can pull off bullshit flank shots. this makes fucked up situations worse for you and good situations better. if you hear that floaters are close by you need to brace yourself. remember those 3-4 battlescanners you brought? one of those packs is now not a seeker pack. you just got a free BS to try to exploit.
1) I know how its set up. But i have 6 interceptors in my one continent and even with anti-fighter research and one time bonuses and running to advanced air i can't take down their anti-sat ops over a single goddamned country. Shit. They killed my sat then I immediately put another up, then they sent another fucking fighter to take it down 2 days after that. I have 6 interceptors, all of which are heavily damaged because rushing anti-air hasn't helped win the air war.
2) Look i bring 4 scanners a mission and run out because it takes more than 1 scanner to take down a pack when they decide they're going to trickle in. Then they do trickle in and "fuck you we're flying enemies". You can't go aggressive on them because they're invisible unless you save/reload in order to find them on your turn with an advanced sweeper (which they can wait out)
3) Mainly on cyberdisks, but yes on floaters too.
edit: that makes 4. They just sent a medium sized craft to intercept my satellite.... that i just launched.
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2) well they are not really invisible. they start uncloaked and upon discovery 2-3 of that 4-pack go to stealth. now the stealthed ones go straight for you, only slower than the one(s) that go berserk.
plop down a BS between where you activeated them from and where they activated them and you should be able to see all Seekers. Sometimes you miss the one Seeker who thinks he is sooooo clever. but at this point you should be able to lock down one with suppression, kill at least one and then you go from there.
Sucks balls with ballistic weapons but lasers ought to do it.
1) beeline Lasers and then Advanced Lasers. Dunno if I am stating the obvious here but Laser Cannons on your interceptors make the hugest of differences.
1) The air war is bullshit and basically unwinnable. I am upgrading my fighters as fast as humanly possible and the enemy still consistently shoots down my satellites with basically no possible way to retaliate. Not with 4 interceptors set to hunt fighters. This is the second successful satellite interception i've had in one month(month 3) and the third one they've tried. On top of that there is, more or less, no way to recover from the terror gained... except raid the bases that they create... which you can't do without shooting down enemy aircraft... which you can't do without satellites... (plus the satellites are expensive)... which you can't have because the enemy just shoots them down... which you can't stop because the enemy flys too many satellite interception missions
2) Too many seekers. They just plain unfun bullshit. A few is OK because you can scan them out, but when its 3+ groups its just "hunker down and hope that they don't decide to take random flanking shots instead" because you almost cannot take enough scanners in any group and because even if you do scan them they offer no interesting tactical choices because they're flying (permanent low cover equivalent) and will simply flank you. If you buy the "can't be strangled items" it just means that seekers just flank you more which is in many ways counter productive.
3) I really hate overwatch on discovery and there isn't a way to turn it off.
Well, you'll be happy to know that I have the solution to all your problems (except 2 and 3).
It's called editing the .ini file on two specific points: Air repair time and money earned from missions.
I halved the repair time for fighters, so that a single hit constitutes 3 days of repair and a max of 15 days of repair for almost destroyed. This makes the air game a lot better. You don't down UFO's any faster than before, but you aren't unbelievably punish for mere attempting to shoot down that seeking UFO.
I upped the money earned from doing abduction mission from 100 to 300 (you don't get 300 all time. Only on swarming missions). In the beginning (and due to my Africa bonus) this meant a pretty big income and I was able to rush build my base and get 2 thermo generators up and running.
But it began to even out as countries left the XCOM project. At the moment I have Africa and South America locked down with only 2 countries in Europe. Rest are gone. This gives me an estimated income of 250-300 funbucks after expensives deducted. With EXALT draining my money, I still hit -200 to -300 once in a while which really hurts even if I can take an abduction mission to get money.
However, here's the kicker: by intercepting abductor UFOs and getting them to land, I get to raid the UFO but I won't get any substantial amount of money since I need to parts to tech or build stuff. So it becomes a choice between available funds and possible salvage for future missions.
I find these changes overall better for the enjoyment of LW. I really like the different classes, abilities, Mecs, gear and different enemy composition. I also like the air combat, but it was very unforgiving with the original settings. With these new settings, I can at least feel challenged tactically and strategically without feeling like I am banging my head against the wall (air specifically).
I may have to do that. Looking at the research equivalent cost for a lot of things and the prices are just mind boggling for the upgrades that can get me where I need to be. Advanced Surgery costs 1080 cash equivalent (if you sold the required items on the grey market). Wingtip sparrowhawks have 700 credits worth of sell cost on top of the raw cash cost of actually doing it(1200 cash equivalent). I can't see how any of these things are anything but lategame luxuries, especially considering those things are usually things that I tend to value more than their grey market sell anyway.
I mean they say the game is hard, but i've got the enemy at 6, maybe 7 bases by the end of the third month with basically nothing I can do about it... on Normal... without losing ground missions... with getting good luck on taking down landed UFO's (including an abductor and a transport!)... with doing well on terror missions...
2) well they are not really invisible. they start uncloaked and upon discovery 2-3 of that 4-pack go to stealth. now the stealthed ones go straight for you, only slower than the one(s) that go berserk.
plop down a BS between where you activeated them from and where they activated them and you should be able to see all Seekers. Sometimes you miss the one Seeker who thinks he is sooooo clever. but at this point you should be able to lock down one with suppression, kill at least one and then you go from there.
Sucks balls with ballistic weapons but lasers ought to do it.
1) beeline Lasers and then Advanced Lasers. Dunno if I am stating the obvious here but Laser Cannons on your interceptors make the hugest of differences.
3) yeah, fuck cyberdisks. seriously.
Suppression doesn't work. They move which breaks the suppression (and they don't die because you're shooting with a 70% aim penalty into low cover)
I guess my problem was not beelining for advanced lasers.
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MorninglordI'm tired of being Batman,so today I'll be Owl.Registered Userregular
edited July 2014
A sectopod, a million heavy floaters and a bunch of chryssalids thrown in, all in a small double story building. Yay.
Just positively stuffed full of fun times!
edit: Game crashed and I ended up back at the hq.
Now I'm in a supermarket.
Pity? We shall see.
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Speaking of which, I'm got my first LW terror mission coming up. Its nearly the end of April and I've only lost three dudes so far so I'm doing pretty well, but my very best guys just got back from an abduction so I'm sending the B team. However, I did bring two assaults with close combat specialist, which I'm hoping will make the difference between victory, and zombie apocalypse. Last time I reached this point in long war, it didn't go so well.
I rely heavily on SHIVs, infantry, and rocketeers for terror missions. You just want a hail of fire that will kill anything that approaches. I use the SHIVs to activate packs and shoot at them as they retreat back to my big guns. Then infantry just fires their entire turns. Rocketeers handle any cyberdiscs or massed groups.
Speaking of which, I'm got my first LW terror mission coming up. Its nearly the end of April and I've only lost three dudes so far so I'm doing pretty well, but my very best guys just got back from an abduction so I'm sending the B team. However, I did bring two assaults with close combat specialist, which I'm hoping will make the difference between victory, and zombie apocalypse. Last time I reached this point in long war, it didn't go so well.
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MorninglordI'm tired of being Batman,so today I'll be Owl.Registered Userregular
I rely heavily on SHIVs, infantry, and rocketeers for terror missions. You just want a hail of fire that will kill anything that approaches. I use the SHIVs to activate packs and shoot at them as they retreat back to my big guns. Then infantry just fires their entire turns. Rocketeers handle any cyberdiscs or massed groups.
Oh yeah, my team is 2x Close Combat assaults, 2x Infantry, 1 Rocketeer and a Medic. Totally specced for anti-Chrysalid warfare. I might switch out the medic for a shotgun scout, actually. I have way too many scouts. Thankfully with Long War they can also double as assaults or snipers.
Here's hoping that someone here can help me with this (next stop - the 2K support forums): is XCOM unplayably buggy on the iPad or am I doing something wrong? I'm still pretty early in the game but after shooting down my first UFO I'm supposed to send soldiers to the crash site. When I edit the soldiers' loadouts or promote them, though, I don't seem to have any menu options to go out of the individual soldier view. I'm stuck looking at my soldier, with no apparent buttons to return to the overview. Any ideas or tips?
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
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It's amazing how many people blame Long War for things that Enemy Within actually added. For example, aliens going on overwatch is a feature of Enemy Within and designed to make certain enemies like cyber discs and similar, that don't need cover, more threatening. Long War just removes all of the AI shackling on every difficulty, so usually the AI can do whatever it wants so it will tend to overwatch more (which I think makes it easier).
Otherwise the mission was a success, more thanks to the infantry (who I'd forgotten both had executioner) than the assaults as it was mostly floaters in the end.
In C/I Marathon I had a UFO raid where three Mechtoids, three Sectoid Commanders, and three Sectoids all triggered on the same turn. There was some hilarious psychic circle-jerk between them until everybody but one Mechtoid and one Sectoid was psionically linked up somehow. It did not look good, at least not until a rocket and a flamethrower spray ended two commanders, two sectoids, and one of the Mechtoids.
That proved more manageable and I finished the mission with no fatalities.
It's amazing how many people blame Long War for things that Enemy Within actually added. For example, aliens going on overwatch is a feature of Enemy Within and designed to make certain enemies like cyber discs and similar, that don't need cover, more threatening. Long War just removes all of the AI shackling on every difficulty, so usually the AI can do whatever it wants so it will tend to overwatch more (which I think makes it easier).
That's only the discs though. Sectoids, floaters and thin men (if they're not single orbital drop) won't overwatch on discovery, so if that happens in LW it's new.
It's amazing how many people blame Long War for things that Enemy Within actually added. For example, aliens going on overwatch is a feature of Enemy Within and designed to make certain enemies like cyber discs and similar, that don't need cover, more threatening. Long War just removes all of the AI shackling on every difficulty, so usually the AI can do whatever it wants so it will tend to overwatch more (which I think makes it easier).
That's only the discs though. Sectoids, floaters and thin men (if they're not single orbital drop) won't overwatch on discovery, so if that happens in LW it's new.
Mechtoids and Sectopods also overwatch on discovery.
It's amazing how many people blame Long War for things that Enemy Within actually added. For example, aliens going on overwatch is a feature of Enemy Within and designed to make certain enemies like cyber discs and similar, that don't need cover, more threatening. Long War just removes all of the AI shackling on every difficulty, so usually the AI can do whatever it wants so it will tend to overwatch more (which I think makes it easier).
That's only the discs though. Sectoids, floaters and thin men (if they're not single orbital drop) won't overwatch on discovery, so if that happens in LW it's new.
Mechtoids and Sectopods also overwatch on discovery.
Oh you're right, sorry. I wasn't really thinking about the end game stuff because then it matters a lot less. I don't play LW but if the early game enemies overwatch on discovery it would change a lot.
I don't think I've ever seen a floater overwatch on discovery, they do love to overwatch in general though and if it's a group of 3 one of them will most likely fly into the air and overwatch.
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Any alien can OW on discovery. It's just higher for cyberdiscs and so on.
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Also my untouchable Nix came within 4 hitpoints of being killed outright and that scared me shitless.
Since squadsight allows critical hits in EU she's easily the most powerful part of my team. She carries everybody.
My second terror mission in EU was all Chryssalids.
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sighhhh
Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
You seem to have a bug problem. Do you have any exterminators?
Or, alternatively, get yourself an assault with an alloy cannon, shoot it from 2 tiles away twice, and then give it a falcon punch with your MEC. Falcon punch > sectopods.
Falcon Punching Sectopods is not ideal, since your MEC will take damage from the explosion. It's not like punching Cyberdisks where you turn them into a fastball special.
1) The air war is bullshit and basically unwinnable. I am upgrading my fighters as fast as humanly possible and the enemy still consistently shoots down my satellites with basically no possible way to retaliate. Not with 4 interceptors set to hunt fighters. This is the second successful satellite interception i've had in one month(month 3) and the third one they've tried. On top of that there is, more or less, no way to recover from the terror gained... except raid the bases that they create... which you can't do without shooting down enemy aircraft... which you can't do without satellites... (plus the satellites are expensive)... which you can't have because the enemy just shoots them down... which you can't stop because the enemy flys too many satellite interception missions
2) Too many seekers. They just plain unfun bullshit. A few is OK because you can scan them out, but when its 3+ groups its just "hunker down and hope that they don't decide to take random flanking shots instead" because you almost cannot take enough scanners in any group and because even if you do scan them they offer no interesting tactical choices because they're flying (permanent low cover equivalent) and will simply flank you. If you buy the "can't be strangled items" it just means that seekers just flank you more which is in many ways counter productive.
3) I really hate overwatch on discovery and there isn't a way to turn it off.
I can dig seekers. well, once you can reliably kill them.
1) I guess it is just set that way so you lose satellites to make stealth satellites actually worth the investment because non-LW it is not needed at all. fuck, if I am grinding in expansion/vanilla I'll gladly take the extra UFO downed.
also you develope your sat game differently in LW imho. you need 5-6 un-upgraded interceptors per continent to contain small UFOs. this means you do not get to go for a second continent bonus right away. let's say you start in Europe. the first two satellites you launch are going to launch in Europe because you can protect them. branching out to a different continent is very expensive initially because you need interceptors there first that can handle the defense
3) on floaters? floaters love overwatch until they can pull off bullshit flank shots. this makes fucked up situations worse for you and good situations better. if you hear that floaters are close by you need to brace yourself. remember those 3-4 battlescanners you brought? one of those packs is now not a seeker pack. you just got a free BS to try to exploit.
Well, you'll be happy to know that I have the solution to all your problems (except 2 and 3).
It's called editing the .ini file on two specific points: Air repair time and money earned from missions.
I halved the repair time for fighters, so that a single hit constitutes 3 days of repair and a max of 15 days of repair for almost destroyed. This makes the air game a lot better. You don't down UFO's any faster than before, but you aren't unbelievably punish for mere attempting to shoot down that seeking UFO.
I upped the money earned from doing abduction mission from 100 to 300 (you don't get 300 all time. Only on swarming missions). In the beginning (and due to my Africa bonus) this meant a pretty big income and I was able to rush build my base and get 2 thermo generators up and running.
But it began to even out as countries left the XCOM project. At the moment I have Africa and South America locked down with only 2 countries in Europe. Rest are gone. This gives me an estimated income of 250-300 funbucks after expensives deducted. With EXALT draining my money, I still hit -200 to -300 once in a while which really hurts even if I can take an abduction mission to get money.
However, here's the kicker: by intercepting abductor UFOs and getting them to land, I get to raid the UFO but I won't get any substantial amount of money since I need to parts to tech or build stuff. So it becomes a choice between available funds and possible salvage for future missions.
I find these changes overall better for the enjoyment of LW. I really like the different classes, abilities, Mecs, gear and different enemy composition. I also like the air combat, but it was very unforgiving with the original settings. With these new settings, I can at least feel challenged tactically and strategically without feeling like I am banging my head against the wall (air specifically).
1) I know how its set up. But i have 6 interceptors in my one continent and even with anti-fighter research and one time bonuses and running to advanced air i can't take down their anti-sat ops over a single goddamned country. Shit. They killed my sat then I immediately put another up, then they sent another fucking fighter to take it down 2 days after that. I have 6 interceptors, all of which are heavily damaged because rushing anti-air hasn't helped win the air war.
2) Look i bring 4 scanners a mission and run out because it takes more than 1 scanner to take down a pack when they decide they're going to trickle in. Then they do trickle in and "fuck you we're flying enemies". You can't go aggressive on them because they're invisible unless you save/reload in order to find them on your turn with an advanced sweeper (which they can wait out)
3) Mainly on cyberdisks, but yes on floaters too.
edit: that makes 4. They just sent a medium sized craft to intercept my satellite.... that i just launched.
plop down a BS between where you activeated them from and where they activated them and you should be able to see all Seekers. Sometimes you miss the one Seeker who thinks he is sooooo clever. but at this point you should be able to lock down one with suppression, kill at least one and then you go from there.
Sucks balls with ballistic weapons but lasers ought to do it.
1) beeline Lasers and then Advanced Lasers. Dunno if I am stating the obvious here but Laser Cannons on your interceptors make the hugest of differences.
3) yeah, fuck cyberdisks. seriously.
I may have to do that. Looking at the research equivalent cost for a lot of things and the prices are just mind boggling for the upgrades that can get me where I need to be. Advanced Surgery costs 1080 cash equivalent (if you sold the required items on the grey market). Wingtip sparrowhawks have 700 credits worth of sell cost on top of the raw cash cost of actually doing it(1200 cash equivalent). I can't see how any of these things are anything but lategame luxuries, especially considering those things are usually things that I tend to value more than their grey market sell anyway.
I mean they say the game is hard, but i've got the enemy at 6, maybe 7 bases by the end of the third month with basically nothing I can do about it... on Normal... without losing ground missions... with getting good luck on taking down landed UFO's (including an abductor and a transport!)... with doing well on terror missions...
Suppression doesn't work. They move which breaks the suppression (and they don't die because you're shooting with a 70% aim penalty into low cover)
I guess my problem was not beelining for advanced lasers.
Just positively stuffed full of fun times!
edit: Game crashed and I ended up back at the hq.
Now I'm in a supermarket.
Pity? We shall see.
Knock knock motherfuckers
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edit: Oh yeah, also, I beat it.
Feel like I accomplished something here.
Feels good.
Now if only I could get OpenXcom to stop crashing. I'll see if I can get it working the next few days.
Oh yeah, my team is 2x Close Combat assaults, 2x Infantry, 1 Rocketeer and a Medic. Totally specced for anti-Chrysalid warfare. I might switch out the medic for a shotgun scout, actually. I have way too many scouts. Thankfully with Long War they can also double as assaults or snipers.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/54358977651990635/27D9F377818389BAC9EEE76EFE91AA6891C7ADFA/
I also had group of floaters spawn outside of the map. These guys actually spawned under the freaking bridge.
http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/54358977652000407/35A7E275C19D631FB195AA3B4C06050A477F5570/
Otherwise the mission was a success, more thanks to the infantry (who I'd forgotten both had executioner) than the assaults as it was mostly floaters in the end.
That proved more manageable and I finished the mission with no fatalities.
That's only the discs though. Sectoids, floaters and thin men (if they're not single orbital drop) won't overwatch on discovery, so if that happens in LW it's new.
Mechtoids and Sectopods also overwatch on discovery.
Oh you're right, sorry. I wasn't really thinking about the end game stuff because then it matters a lot less. I don't play LW but if the early game enemies overwatch on discovery it would change a lot.
I don't think I've ever seen a floater overwatch on discovery, they do love to overwatch in general though and if it's a group of 3 one of them will most likely fly into the air and overwatch.
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