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Covers in Music - Sometimes things sound better in someone else's hands!

HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration ThreadCentrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
edited November 2013 in Debate and/or Discourse
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Covers! Sometimes a band or artist takes a piece of music written by someone else and makes it their own, or pays homage to it, or whatever other motivation there is to make them happen. This is something I kinda dig in music, just to hear songs playing out differently. Sometimes it's subtle, staying in the same genre, and sometimes it's a huge departure where everything about the song is different.

Because I like discovering this sorta thing or being shown (listened?) I decided to make a thread. Why not? I'm sure someone will show me something awesome. Let me start off with a few things here in the OP.

An example of a cover that stays very close to the original, just a little livened up:
Holy Soldier, Gimme Shelter (Rolling Stones)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ3JVSA7Iw8

An example of a cover that changes it up a little more than that:
Justin Murphy, Losing My Religion (R.E.M.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvivJ58c1LU

An example of a cover that completely fucks up a song:
Guns n' Roses, Knocking on Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tmc8rJgxUI

Oh, since I went ahead and linked one I don't like let me note now that if we're gonna be critical of songs, try to give reasons. Luckily, I have some to start with!

I feel like Guns n' Roses' cover of Knocking on Heaven's Door is a huge departure from the original in a bad way. They made it more spiritual, while missing the point of the song being more soulful. Also, for some reason there's a goddamn phone call recording injected into it. What the hell.

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    SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    This might very well be the epitome of covers for me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McV7pjwVFbE

    A buddy of mine is a huge Cash fan, and when I told him it was originally Trent Reznor's / Nine Inch Nails he was amazed. It's Cash's song, now.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    I was going to link that one but wanted to see how long it'd take for people to come in with it. ONE POST. I have not been let down.

    It's a great cover though. It's one I struggle to say I like better than the original because I actually like the original a lot as it is. Minus its end when the music abruptly blares.

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Snake River Conspiracy did a cover of Love Song (The Cure) that is spectacular:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWBYg-ZET-o

    And Lacuna Coil did a brilliant cover of Losing My Religion (REM):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYW9GVDb4Pk

    And finally, an excellent cover of Send Me An Angel (Real Life) by Zeromancer:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc9_2aND7Dc

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    I think I am literally the only person on the planet that doesn't like that Cash cover. The only fucking one. I don't hate it, I don't think it's terrible, I just don't like it. And of course I'm the only one on the planet that liked Reznor and Karen O doing Immigrant Song.


    Personal fave, though?

    Local H, "Toxic" (originally Britney Spears):
    Made me look at that song, and general teenage pop songs, in a new light.

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    Jose Gonzales doing Heartbeats is a cover I like:

    Now, here's some ones that are total reimagining of the originals:

    Tori Amos - Raining Blood. When this was sent to Kerry King, he didn't even recoginse his own song.

    Nadja - Needle In The Hay

    and of course, Richard Cheese covering Cannibal Corpse's Rancid Amputation.

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Oh, another personal fave...nothing revolutionary, but a great enough cover that I consider it "his" song now:

    Elliot Smith, "Thirteen" (originally Big Star):
    That's a live version, the studio one is great too obviously.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Nova_C wrote: »
    And finally, an excellent cover of Send Me An Angel (Real Life) by Zeromancer:
    *snip*

    A cover of that song that I'm familiar with is by Thrice.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    mcdermott wrote: »
    I think I am literally the only person on the planet that doesn't like that Cash cover. The only fucking one. I don't hate it, I don't think it's terrible, I just don't like it. And of course I'm the only one on the planet that liked Reznor and Karen O doing Immigrant Song.

    Oh man that's pretty amazing, well done. Different but stays very close to the feel of the original surprisingly. WELL DONE.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    that raining blood cover is amaaaaaaaazing


    i love wussified covers of pop songs, personally

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_O7hRuhoP0

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    Almost forgot about this astounding cover of Gangnam Style:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmBByDQHJAA

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    The AV Club have an excellent series where they invite bands in to cover other bands' songs. My personal favourites are:

    Mountain Goats covering Jawbreaker

    and The Swell Season covering Neutral Milk Hotel

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    This might very well be the epitome of covers for me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McV7pjwVFbE

    A buddy of mine is a huge Cash fan, and when I told him it was originally Trent Reznor's / Nine Inch Nails he was amazed. It's Cash's song, now.

    Which is exactly what Reznor himself has said. It's clear that Reznor put his soul into the song, but Cash just puts the power of a life hard lived into it.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Oh hey here's something. Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks was on the Stern Show earlier this year and did a cover of Mother (Pink Floyd).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COzkWWBYMB4

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    Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Both the Foo Fighters and Marylin Manson covered Gary Numan's Down in the Park in ways I like.

    I love all three versions.

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    Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Nova_C wrote: »
    Snake River Conspiracy did a cover of Love Song (The Cure) that is spectacular:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWBYg-ZET-o

    Doesn't Sonic Jihad have one or two other covers on it? I know it also has a cover of How Soon is Now? but I am sure there's another.

    I agree their version of Lovesong is great.

    Given the long tradition of gothic industrial cover albums there's a whole range of covers of The Cure songs.

    Converge's version of Disintergration is a very different take.
    I can't count the number of versions of Lullaby I've heard.
    I really like God Module's version of A Night Like This, but it's also sort of amusingly aimed at the dance floor.

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    BSoBBSoB Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Does this count as a cover?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B_UYYPb-Gk
    (run DMC's walk this way.)

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    TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    I'm sure some of you have already seen this one; A smooth jazz version of Metallica's 'Enter Sandman' by a guy named Andy Rehfeldt.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBmM79YadYM
    Not quite a cover (new instrumentation, original vocals). Definitely gives it a neat new spin.

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    mcdermott wrote: »
    I think I am literally the only person on the planet that doesn't like that Cash cover. The only fucking one. I don't hate it, I don't think it's terrible, I just don't like it. And of course I'm the only one on the planet that liked Reznor and Karen O doing Immigrant Song.

    Oh man that's pretty amazing, well done. Different but stays very close to the feel of the original surprisingly. WELL DONE.

    I NO LONGER FEEL ALONE

    I just seem to remember it being universally shat upon when it came out, for some reason. Whereas I fell in love with it from the moment I heard it in the Dragon Tattoo trailer.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    mcdermott wrote: »
    I just seem to remember it being universally shat upon when it came out, for some reason.

    Because it wasn't Led Zeppelin.

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    mcdermott wrote: »
    I just seem to remember it being universally shat upon when it came out, for some reason.

    Because it wasn't Led Zeppelin.

    True, true. Personally never been much of a Zeppelin fan, so it makes sense that I wouldn't cringe at such a cover.

    I really get annoyed when people dismiss covers because of some misguided worship of the original artist.

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    AtaxrxesAtaxrxes Hellnation Cursed EarthRegistered User regular
    I'll just leave this here:

    http://youtu.be/2POSebkZ2wc

    Two (three?) great tastes that taste great together. A Perfect Circle covering The Cure and Ozzy at the same time.

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    Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    Nirvana-The Man Who Sold the World

    Guns n Roses- Sympathy For The Devil

    Does this count?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr4HffbAUTk

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    really? a thread about cover version and nobodies mentioned Hendrix' version of All Along the Watchtower?

    http://youtu.be/pJV81mdj1ic

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Here's how much of a musical hack I am - I had no idea Hendrix covered that song.

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    Here's how much of a musical hack I am - I had no idea Hendrix covered that song.


    until a few years ago, neither did i, but that's what makes it the ultimate cover*. Hendrix didn't just cover it, he took ownership of it and no one that's covered it since has even come close.

    *the already mentioned Johnny Cash cover of Hurt being equal or at least an incredibly close 2nd.

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    KaputaKaputa Registered User regular
    While the version of Tainted Love that everyone heard in the 80s is actually a cover itself, the slightly later cover of the same song by Coil is ominous and awesome:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo3TUtRnZi4

    "She's Lost Control" was always one of my favorite Joy Division songs, and I love this cover by Circles of Ouroborus :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9OGm2TFeDU

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    HuuHuu Registered User regular
    Since we are talking about covers, here is one of Pulp's Common People by William Shatner.

    Yes. That William Shatner. And his version is the better one (by far).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Here's how much of a musical hack I am - I had no idea Hendrix covered that song.


    until a few years ago, neither did i, but that's what makes it the ultimate cover*. Hendrix didn't just cover it, he took ownership of it and no one that's covered it since has even come close.

    *the already mentioned Johnny Cash cover of Hurt being equal or at least an incredibly close 2nd.

    I think the main difference between "Watchtower" and "Hurt" is that "Hurt" was around for quite some time before the cover (and was on an album that sold quite well)...so it had time to become a NIN song. Whereas IIRC "Watchtower" was covered by Hendrix like a year after the original Dylan recording. So Hendrix's version was able to completely eclipse Dylan's.

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    Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    I'm kind of fond of Sinatra's cover of Yesterday, but a lot of people have told me they hate it. :(

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WswBkTAy1dI

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    Nirvana-The Man Who Sold the World

    Even though I've long since tired of Nirvana (especially after moving to the Seattle area), I still love this cover. I definitely put it in the "better than the original" bin, too, though I'd understand if a Bowie fan disagrees. I loved both the Unplugged version, and a couple live (harder) versions I've heard. Though a visit to the wikipedia page brought me this nugget, which made me smile:
    In the wake of its release, Bowie bemoaned the fact that when he performed the number himself he would encounter "kids that come up afterwards and say, 'It's cool you're doing a Nirvana song.' And I think, 'Fuck you, you little tosser!'"

    Tosser indeed. I was in my early teens when that came out, and I still knew better. IIRC he even says right in the recording that it's a fucking Bowie song!

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    It's one thing when that happens to a covered song.

    But I remember back in highschool sitting in the cafeteria for some sort of assembly, and some Led Zeppelin starts playing for the performance. Two chicks in front of me turn to each other and go, "What, someone stole Puff Daddy's song!" without irony.

    I hate sampling so much.

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    ComradebotComradebot Lord of Dinosaurs Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    Absolutely not shocked that Johnny Cash's rendition of "Hurt" is, like the first reply to this thread. I also highly recommend his cover of Marty Robbins' "Big Iron", it's pretty fantastic.


    HOWEVER, here's my own contribution.

    First, one of the greatest covers of all time: Billy "Fucking" Idol's take on "Mony Mony".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAmgTNATJkk




    And, for kicks, the hands down absolute worst cover of all time...

    Fall Out Boy "tackles" Joy Division's "Love Will Tear Us Apart"
    And proceeds to show that, yes, you can pull an anti-Johnny Cash and take one of the greatest songs of all time and turn it into a steaming pile of shit.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlFIpPPbQXw


    Congrats Fall Out Boy, the guy who actually killed himself comes off as less of an emo dickbag than y'all do.

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    Typhoid MannyTyphoid Manny Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Henroid wrote: »
    It's one thing when that happens to a covered song.

    But I remember back in highschool sitting in the cafeteria for some sort of assembly, and some Led Zeppelin starts playing for the performance. Two chicks in front of me turn to each other and go, "What, someone stole Puff Daddy's song!" without irony.

    I hate sampling so much.

    Sampling an entire goddamn song is the height of bullshit, but chopping up a recording and using a kick hit here or a hi hat there, or even a whole melody sometimes can be an incredibly cool thing. I submit as evidence the entirety of The Chronic.

    e: while we're talking about sampling, here's the most sampled track in history, by far. Listen to those fuckin' drums.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZuq57_bYM

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    ComradebotComradebot Lord of Dinosaurs Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    mcdermott wrote: »
    Nirvana-The Man Who Sold the World

    Even though I've long since tired of Nirvana (especially after moving to the Seattle area), I still love this cover. I definitely put it in the "better than the original" bin, too, though I'd understand if a Bowie fan disagrees. I loved both the Unplugged version, and a couple live (harder) versions I've heard. Though a visit to the wikipedia page brought me this nugget, which made me smile:
    In the wake of its release, Bowie bemoaned the fact that when he performed the number himself he would encounter "kids that come up afterwards and say, 'It's cool you're doing a Nirvana song.' And I think, 'Fuck you, you little tosser!'"

    Tosser indeed. I was in my early teens when that came out, and I still knew better. IIRC he even says right in the recording that it's a fucking Bowie song!

    I'm a massive fan of both Bowie and Nirvana (well, massive Bowie, solid Nirvana)... and the Nirvana version is better. However, much like Reznor/Cash, the original is still a very, very good rendition.

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    SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Nova_C wrote: »
    And finally, an excellent cover of Send Me An Angel (Real Life) by Zeromancer:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc9_2aND7Dc

    I had no idea that Real Life did the original. I know it by the Thrice cover (I didn't know it was from this cover album; I just found it online at the time.)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv5abjfXQsI

    EDIT: That Zeromancer cover is pretty awesome. Thanks!

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    SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    It's one thing when that happens to a covered song.

    But I remember back in highschool sitting in the cafeteria for some sort of assembly, and some Led Zeppelin starts playing for the performance. Two chicks in front of me turn to each other and go, "What, someone stole Puff Daddy's song!" without irony.

    I hate sampling so much.

    Sampling an entire goddamn song is the height of bullshit, but chopping up a recording and using a kick hit here or a hi hat there, or even a whole melody sometimes can be an incredibly cool thing. I submit as evidence the entirety of The Chronic.

    e: while we're talking about sampling, here's the most sampled track in history, by far. Listen to those fuckin' drums.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxZuq57_bYM

    :D The Amen Break. Learned about that from Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music.

    Set the wayback machine for 2001, Sherman.

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    HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    Another secret favorite of mine is Powerman 5000's cover of letting the good times roll.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chTvE23NcUw

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    KaputaKaputa Registered User regular
    Les Claypool's Flying Frog Brigade did some great Pink Floyd covers. The vocals and bass are distinctly Claypool, but the covers are respectful and close to the originals. Here's their version of Dogs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD_dSa2mGKY

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    SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Grab the hottest iron you can find, stride in the Tower’s front door Registered User regular
    edited November 2013
    Ataxrxes wrote: »
    I'll just leave this here:

    Two (three?) great tastes that taste great together. A Perfect Circle covering The Cure and Ozzy at the same time.

    Speaking of APC: When the Levee Breaks

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymhLUlRDX1M

    Outstanding.

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    JurgJurg In a TeacupRegistered User regular
    edited November 2013
    mcdermott wrote: »
    Personal fave, though?

    Local H, "Toxic" (originally Britney Spears):
    Made me look at that song, and general teenage pop songs, in a new light.

    Love that Toxic cover. I also really dig the original, but that is awesome.

    Downthread, I also love Shatner's Common People.

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