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Versailles on the Potomac (and Hudson): The American Political Media

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Fitbit maybe?

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    MrVyngaardMrVyngaard Live From New Etoile Straight Outta SosariaRegistered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Fitbit maybe?

    Remote control device, surely.
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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    You know, for all the shit we give the American political media, at least they don't pull shit like this.

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    Captain MarcusCaptain Marcus now arrives the hour of actionRegistered User regular
    Or publish softcore pornography and put it in grocery checkouts! That is one aspect of Europe I will never understand/be comfortable with.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Well I think with three months left we can call this the dumbest Politico article of 2014.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    I dunno they give Lowry a weekly column

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Well I think with three months left we can call this the dumbest Politico article of 2014.

    Wait, let me check the configuration of The Grand Cross and then I will make a prediction about whether a dumber one is coming or not.

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Or publish softcore pornography and put it in grocery checkouts! That is one aspect of Europe I will never understand/be comfortable with.

    People like boobs and they kicked the puritans out?

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    CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    Well I think with three months left we can call this the dumbest Politico article of 2014.

    This seems more like boring pandering then epic fail or peak derp to me. Give em another month or two.

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    Corehealer wrote: »
    Well I think with three months left we can call this the dumbest Politico article of 2014.

    This seems more like boring pandering then epic fail or peak derp to me. Give em another month or two.

    Also, as a parent myself, I find the whole "we have pre-determined exactly what our child/grandchild will do and become from the moment of their birth" a little off-putting.

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    HachfaceHachface Not the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking of Dammit, Shepard!Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    Well I think with three months left we can call this the dumbest Politico article of 2014.

    I find this article deeply strange -- not just in the usual courtier press way, but in the way that it feels like an almost medieval reversion. Like when Queen Elizabeth retained John Dee as her court astrologer.

    edit: Although I guess Nancy Reagan did in fact retain an astrologer for real.

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    spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited September 2014
    Or publish softcore pornography and put it in grocery checkouts! That is one aspect of Europe I will never understand/be comfortable with.

    ?

    Unless you mean they have nipples and gonads on the cover... US has that covered. Granted, not so much politicians as actors.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    spool32 wrote: »

    Also some being very stupid and hawkish issues. But yeah, not good. Also seems to be fairly endemic in our elite media.

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Or publish softcore pornography and put it in grocery checkouts! That is one aspect of Europe I will never understand/be comfortable with.

    ?

    Unless you mean they have nipples and gonads on the cover... US has that covered. Granted, not so much politicians as actors.

    Probably this. If you wanted to imagine a US equivalent, it would be as if The Globe or Weekly World News published a topless model in their dirt sheet. The Sun in the UK doesn't do it anymore apparently, but it's still a thing elsewhere.

    Considering the lengths US news media will go to cover some stories, I wouldn't go out on a limb and say we're better about anything. We'd be doing it too if there wasn't an ingrained sense of shame over it.

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    Captain MarcusCaptain Marcus now arrives the hour of actionRegistered User regular
    edited September 2014
    Probably this. If you wanted to imagine a US equivalent, it would be as if The Globe or Weekly World News published a topless model in their dirt sheet. The Sun in the UK doesn't do it anymore apparently, but it's still a thing elsewhere.

    That's the example I had in mind. I just find it weird that a kid can grab porn off the shelf and thumb through it while his mom is putting groceries on the conveyor belt.

    edit- I refuse to believe that American tabloids would "count down the days until it could feature a topless girl on her sixteenth birthday". There's non-puritanical and then there's selling child porn in the grocery store. WTF

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I'd prefer us having more nudity in the aisles and less extreme violence in prime time if we are going to sway our media one way or another. I say this as someone who likes violent movies.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Kids can get porn anywhere. The last thing I worry about is topless cheesecake in a tabloid.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I'm consistently amazed at how people are so afraid of the human body and sexuality yet seemingly don't complain about hundreds of things children see everyday that I think is actually worse for them, like rampant commercialization of literally everything.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Americans have this weird puritanical aversion to sex or nudity that you just don't see in other parts of the world. It's a values thing, and it's important to note that it isn't a universal value. I have to wonder how much of our pervasive sexual dysfunction and neuroses would vanish if we could stop repressing that aspect of ourselves so much.

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Better topic for a different thread, though.

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    NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    Also, I coulda sworn the local (US) Sun or Weekly World News or some other rag had the exact same thing going on, only with bikini shots. Even the same (or similar) page (if it wasn't 3 it was probably 5).

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    Caulk Bite 6Caulk Bite 6 One of the multitude of Dans infesting this place Registered User regular
    I know the Toronto Sun has a non-nude page 3 girl.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    This is the most politically cognizant burn of a restaurant review I have ever seen. From the opening:
    What to do about Birds & Bubbles, a new subterranean restaurant on the Lower East Side that sells, as the name indicates, fried chicken and champagne? Gotta go, I guess, but man, I didn’t want to. After the summer of Ferguson and Eric Garner and 16,000 devastating words by Ta-Nehisi Coates, race relations burn bright in my mind. My white mind, but nonetheless mine.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    This is the most politically cognizant burn of a restaurant review I have ever seen. From the opening:
    What to do about Birds & Bubbles, a new subterranean restaurant on the Lower East Side that sells, as the name indicates, fried chicken and champagne? Gotta go, I guess, but man, I didn’t want to. After the summer of Ferguson and Eric Garner and 16,000 devastating words by Ta-Nehisi Coates, race relations burn bright in my mind. My white mind, but nonetheless mine.

    I don't...get it? Fried chicken is inherently racist now?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/01/boston-herald-apologizes-for-obama-watermelon-toothpaste-cartoon/

    Boston Herald with a racist editorial. Man Boston you guys have problems.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    This is the most politically cognizant burn of a restaurant review I have ever seen. From the opening:
    What to do about Birds & Bubbles, a new subterranean restaurant on the Lower East Side that sells, as the name indicates, fried chicken and champagne? Gotta go, I guess, but man, I didn’t want to. After the summer of Ferguson and Eric Garner and 16,000 devastating words by Ta-Nehisi Coates, race relations burn bright in my mind. My white mind, but nonetheless mine.

    I don't...get it? Fried chicken is inherently racist now?

    Fried chicken in the US is inherently racially coded, especially in the South.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/01/boston-herald-apologizes-for-obama-watermelon-toothpaste-cartoon/

    Boston Herald with a racist editorial. Man Boston you guys have problems.

    Boston has had endemic racism problems, stemming a good amount from how the Irish were "normalized" into being white (basically, they gained acceptance by becoming racial "enforcers".)

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    This is the most politically cognizant burn of a restaurant review I have ever seen. From the opening:
    What to do about Birds & Bubbles, a new subterranean restaurant on the Lower East Side that sells, as the name indicates, fried chicken and champagne? Gotta go, I guess, but man, I didn’t want to. After the summer of Ferguson and Eric Garner and 16,000 devastating words by Ta-Nehisi Coates, race relations burn bright in my mind. My white mind, but nonetheless mine.

    I don't...get it? Fried chicken is inherently racist now?

    Fried chicken in the US is inherently racially coded, especially in the South.

    Yeah I get that

    but fried chicken is not inherently racist

    I eat fried chicken from the supermarket all the time

    Am I racist? Is the supermarket?

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    ArdolArdol Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/01/boston-herald-apologizes-for-obama-watermelon-toothpaste-cartoon/

    Boston Herald with a racist editorial. Man Boston you guys have problems.

    The Herald is basically a right wing tabloid paper.

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    GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    This is the most politically cognizant burn of a restaurant review I have ever seen. From the opening:
    What to do about Birds & Bubbles, a new subterranean restaurant on the Lower East Side that sells, as the name indicates, fried chicken and champagne? Gotta go, I guess, but man, I didn’t want to. After the summer of Ferguson and Eric Garner and 16,000 devastating words by Ta-Nehisi Coates, race relations burn bright in my mind. My white mind, but nonetheless mine.

    I don't...get it? Fried chicken is inherently racist now?

    Fried chicken in the US is inherently racially coded, especially in the South.

    Yeah I get that

    but fried chicken is not inherently racist

    I eat fried chicken from the supermarket all the time

    Am I racist? Is the supermarket?

    No, but the supermarket isn't a fried chicken restaurant pairing the "low" fried chicken with the "high" champagne with the expectation that it will be served to rich white people who want play down for a night without leaving the confines of a haute scene.

    Moreover, doing the non-traditionally fancy food as fancy is acceptable when you more or less play it straight, and its entirely possible to have a fancy fried chicken joint without being racist, so long as you're more or less presenting the food as high class.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Can fried chicken be considered high class? I mean its not exactly a complicated dish to make. I mean I don't eat fried chicken when I want to live it up. That's like a high class taco joint, ridiculous.

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    I can't think of anything fried that is really high class

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Goumindong wrote: »
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    This is the most politically cognizant burn of a restaurant review I have ever seen. From the opening:
    What to do about Birds & Bubbles, a new subterranean restaurant on the Lower East Side that sells, as the name indicates, fried chicken and champagne? Gotta go, I guess, but man, I didn’t want to. After the summer of Ferguson and Eric Garner and 16,000 devastating words by Ta-Nehisi Coates, race relations burn bright in my mind. My white mind, but nonetheless mine.

    I don't...get it? Fried chicken is inherently racist now?

    Fried chicken in the US is inherently racially coded, especially in the South.

    Yeah I get that

    but fried chicken is not inherently racist

    I eat fried chicken from the supermarket all the time

    Am I racist? Is the supermarket?

    No, but the supermarket isn't a fried chicken restaurant pairing the "low" fried chicken with the "high" champagne with the expectation that it will be served to rich white people who want play down for a night without leaving the confines of a haute scene.

    Moreover, doing the non-traditionally fancy food as fancy is acceptable when you more or less play it straight, and its entirely possible to have a fancy fried chicken joint without being racist, so long as you're more or less presenting the food as high class.

    This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.

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    MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    Our Canadian tabloid used to have both Sunshine Girls and Guys as eye candy. Less explicit than the British ones.

    But then they got rid of the Sunshine guy (can't have women feeling 'urges', or worse yet, men) and kept the Sunshine girl.

    Sigh, I miss those days.....

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    lazegamerlazegamer The magnanimous cyberspaceRegistered User regular
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    CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    I dunno, the Scout seems pretty classy with his fried chicken.

    But generally yeah, for good or ill, people commonly equate fried chicken with the plebs and lower class food, and that can commonly be directed at the ghetto and have racist connotations.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Corehealer wrote: »
    I dunno, the Scout seems pretty classy with his fried chicken.

    But generally yeah, for good or ill, people commonly equate fried chicken with the plebs and lower class food, and that can commonly be directed at the ghetto and have racist connotations.

    Yes, it can be. But a restaurant simply serving fried chicken is not racist.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    There's also a big foodie thing with Fried Chickens and Waffles. That restaurant might be trying to push that trend.

    Coding black people together with fried chicken and watermelons is inherently racist. Thinking every reference to fried chicken and watermelons has something to do with black people is also inherently racist.

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    a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    From the wording of the article, apparently "fancy" fried chicken places are a thing in NYC at the moment.

    You'd think a requisite of that would be knowing how to make good fried chicken, but apparently not.

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