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    HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    No, you're thinking of George W.

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    DivideByZeroDivideByZero Social Justice Blackguard Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    I mean.

    What's he do outside of bullshit like this -anyways?-

    Literally outside of this I have no idea what his job entails. Does he sit around and snort coke all day?

    Writing letters to other telcos asking nicely for a job once he's done at the FCC.

    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
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    Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    No, you're thinking of George W.

    I initially read that as George III and was all, damn, that's some timely satire.

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Seriously, Wheeler needs to go.

    I'm half thinking this is Biden and his cozy relationship to copyright bullshit too.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Scooter wrote: »
    Yea, putting it on hold for a couple years would be bad but better than getting a terrible decision we could end up getting stuck with forEVER.

    If this goes in favor of the ISPs, it will never EVER change back.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited November 2014
    AngelHedgie was warned for this.
    Uber exec comes up with a novel response to bad press: do opposition research on them.

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/26/7878239/comcast-twc-fcc-merger-letters-politicians-ghostwritten
    On August 21st, 2014, Mayor Jere Wood of Roswell, Georgia, sent a letter to the Federal Communications Commission expressing emphatic support for Comcast’s controversial effort to merge with Time Warner Cable. Not only did the mayor’s letter express personal excitement for the gargantuan deal — which critics say will create a monopoly that will harm millions of consumers — but it also claimed that the entire town of Roswell adored Comcast. "When Comcast makes a promise to act, it is comforting to know that they will always follow through," Wood's letter explained. "This is the type of attitude that makes Roswell proud to be involved with such a company," the letter asserts, "our residents are happy with the services it has provided and continues to provide each day.”

    Yet Wood’s letter made one key omission: Neither Wood nor anyone representing Roswell’s residents wrote his letter to the FCC. Instead, a vice president of external affairs at Comcast authored the missive word for word in Mayor Wood's voice. According to email correspondence obtained through a public records request, the Republican mayor’s office apparently added one sign-off sentence and his signature to the corporate PR document, then sent it to federal regulators on the official letterhead of Roswell, Georgia.

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    programjunkieprogramjunkie Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/26/7878239/comcast-twc-fcc-merger-letters-politicians-ghostwritten
    On August 21st, 2014, Mayor Jere Wood of Roswell, Georgia, sent a letter to the Federal Communications Commission expressing emphatic support for Comcast’s controversial effort to merge with Time Warner Cable. Not only did the mayor’s letter express personal excitement for the gargantuan deal — which critics say will create a monopoly that will harm millions of consumers — but it also claimed that the entire town of Roswell adored Comcast. "When Comcast makes a promise to act, it is comforting to know that they will always follow through," Wood's letter explained. "This is the type of attitude that makes Roswell proud to be involved with such a company," the letter asserts, "our residents are happy with the services it has provided and continues to provide each day.”

    Yet Wood’s letter made one key omission: Neither Wood nor anyone representing Roswell’s residents wrote his letter to the FCC. Instead, a vice president of external affairs at Comcast authored the missive word for word in Mayor Wood's voice. According to email correspondence obtained through a public records request, the Republican mayor’s office apparently added one sign-off sentence and his signature to the corporate PR document, then sent it to federal regulators on the official letterhead of Roswell, Georgia.

    You think that's deceptive?

    http://www.androidauthority.com/political-lobbying-broadband-390472/
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2005/05/gigafight
    The caller was a pollster, who asked a dozen or so questions related to the local government's plan to build a broadband network. The questions became increasingly annoying. Then came the kicker: "Should tax money be allowed to provide pornographic movies for residents?" the caller asked.

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    iTunesIsEviliTunesIsEvil Cornfield? Cornfield.Registered User regular
    I'd like to believe that that poll backfired really badly when nearly 100% of respondents replied "boy howdy, do I! Hot damn, I didn't even know that was an option!"

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    I'd like to believe that that poll backfired really badly when nearly 100% of respondents replied "boy howdy, do I! Hot damn, I didn't even know that was an option!"

    Well with Comcasts new bundle package you can get -all- the options *winks*

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    http://gizmodo.com/fcc-redefines-broadband-to-bring-you-faster-internet-1682516928
    The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) just voted to redefine broadband as "internet which is actually fast enough to use." Now, in order to call its service broadband, companies will need to guarantee download speeds of 25 megabits per second or faster and upload speeds of 3 Mbps or faster. This is really, really good news.

    This decision might seem arbitrary at first. After all, the FCC is just changing the definition of broadband—it's not actually forcing internet service providers to speed up connections. That's inevitably what this new policy should accomplish, however. Think about it this way: If a company can't call its service broadband, everybody will know that it's slow. So if they want to stay competitive, they'll have to guarantee faster speeds.

    The new policy will benefit those in rural areas and tribal most. About half of Americans in rural areas don't have access to 25 Mbps down/3 Mbps up speeds, meaning that they can't take advantage of a lot of the internet's best goodies

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    BeezelBeezel There was no agreement little morsel..Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    http://gizmodo.com/fcc-redefines-broadband-to-bring-you-faster-internet-1682516928
    The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) just voted to redefine broadband as "internet which is actually fast enough to use." Now, in order to call its service broadband, companies will need to guarantee download speeds of 25 megabits per second or faster and upload speeds of 3 Mbps or faster. This is really, really good news.

    This decision might seem arbitrary at first. After all, the FCC is just changing the definition of broadband—it's not actually forcing internet service providers to speed up connections. That's inevitably what this new policy should accomplish, however. Think about it this way: If a company can't call its service broadband, everybody will know that it's slow. So if they want to stay competitive, they'll have to guarantee faster speeds.

    The new policy will benefit those in rural areas and tribal most. About half of Americans in rural areas don't have access to 25 Mbps down/3 Mbps up speeds, meaning that they can't take advantage of a lot of the internet's best goodies

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Beezel wrote: »
    Trace wrote: »
    http://gizmodo.com/fcc-redefines-broadband-to-bring-you-faster-internet-1682516928
    The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) just voted to redefine broadband as "internet which is actually fast enough to use." Now, in order to call its service broadband, companies will need to guarantee download speeds of 25 megabits per second or faster and upload speeds of 3 Mbps or faster. This is really, really good news.

    This decision might seem arbitrary at first. After all, the FCC is just changing the definition of broadband—it's not actually forcing internet service providers to speed up connections. That's inevitably what this new policy should accomplish, however. Think about it this way: If a company can't call its service broadband, everybody will know that it's slow. So if they want to stay competitive, they'll have to guarantee faster speeds.

    The new policy will benefit those in rural areas and tribal most. About half of Americans in rural areas don't have access to 25 Mbps down/3 Mbps up speeds, meaning that they can't take advantage of a lot of the internet's best goodies

    All of my dicks

    Now in HD because of better download speeds.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    http://gizmodo.com/fcc-redefines-broadband-to-bring-you-faster-internet-1682516928
    The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) just voted to redefine broadband as "internet which is actually fast enough to use." Now, in order to call its service broadband, companies will need to guarantee download speeds of 25 megabits per second or faster and upload speeds of 3 Mbps or faster. This is really, really good news.

    This decision might seem arbitrary at first. After all, the FCC is just changing the definition of broadband—it's not actually forcing internet service providers to speed up connections. That's inevitably what this new policy should accomplish, however. Think about it this way: If a company can't call its service broadband, everybody will know that it's slow. So if they want to stay competitive, they'll have to guarantee faster speeds.

    The new policy will benefit those in rural areas and tribal most. About half of Americans in rural areas don't have access to 25 Mbps down/3 Mbps up speeds, meaning that they can't take advantage of a lot of the internet's best goodies

    That actually makes U-verse not broadband around here, because they only offer 1.5 Mbps up (despite having well over 25 down).

    In other news, looks like Thursday is the big day.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/tom-wheeler-net-neutrality-114785.html?hp=t2_r
    On Thursday, Wheeler is expected to present to the commission a set of rules that would treat broadband providers like utilities, effectively denying them the right to charge companies a premium for faster access to consumers and holding them accountable for any attempt to secretly impede the flow of data. When the commission finally approves them — a vote is scheduled for late February — it will mark the most significant rewrite of the rules of the road for the Internet in more than a dozen years and affect the competitive playing field for generations to come.

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Trace wrote: »
    http://gizmodo.com/fcc-redefines-broadband-to-bring-you-faster-internet-1682516928
    The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) just voted to redefine broadband as "internet which is actually fast enough to use." Now, in order to call its service broadband, companies will need to guarantee download speeds of 25 megabits per second or faster and upload speeds of 3 Mbps or faster. This is really, really good news.

    This decision might seem arbitrary at first. After all, the FCC is just changing the definition of broadband—it's not actually forcing internet service providers to speed up connections. That's inevitably what this new policy should accomplish, however. Think about it this way: If a company can't call its service broadband, everybody will know that it's slow. So if they want to stay competitive, they'll have to guarantee faster speeds.

    The new policy will benefit those in rural areas and tribal most. About half of Americans in rural areas don't have access to 25 Mbps down/3 Mbps up speeds, meaning that they can't take advantage of a lot of the internet's best goodies

    That actually makes U-verse not broadband around here, because they only offer 1.5 Mbps up (despite having well over 25 down).

    In other news, looks like Thursday is the big day.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/tom-wheeler-net-neutrality-114785.html?hp=t2_r
    On Thursday, Wheeler is expected to present to the commission a set of rules that would treat broadband providers like utilities, effectively denying them the right to charge companies a premium for faster access to consumers and holding them accountable for any attempt to secretly impede the flow of data. When the commission finally approves them — a vote is scheduled for late February — it will mark the most significant rewrite of the rules of the road for the Internet in more than a dozen years and affect the competitive playing field for generations to come.

    God yes.

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    hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    Thanks Obama!

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular

    At least until a company sues them and the Supreme Court overturns all this.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    SyphonBlue wrote: »

    At least until a company sues them and the Supreme Court overturns all this.

    If you read the article, this is a case-by-case-basis which requires a specific petition, and in the two cases the ISPs were already in operation when the limiting laws were put into place. The powers are explicitly granted to the FCC by the Telecommunications Act of 1996. So doesn't seem like there's much basis for challenge. The important thing for this one is established precedent.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    You underestimate the predictability of our current Supremes to ignore established case law to favor the party who bribed them.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    HounHoun Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    http://gizmodo.com/fcc-redefines-broadband-to-bring-you-faster-internet-1682516928
    The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) just voted to redefine broadband as "internet which is actually fast enough to use." Now, in order to call its service broadband, companies will need to guarantee download speeds of 25 megabits per second or faster and upload speeds of 3 Mbps or faster. This is really, really good news.

    This decision might seem arbitrary at first. After all, the FCC is just changing the definition of broadband—it's not actually forcing internet service providers to speed up connections. That's inevitably what this new policy should accomplish, however. Think about it this way: If a company can't call its service broadband, everybody will know that it's slow. So if they want to stay competitive, they'll have to guarantee faster speeds.

    The new policy will benefit those in rural areas and tribal most. About half of Americans in rural areas don't have access to 25 Mbps down/3 Mbps up speeds, meaning that they can't take advantage of a lot of the internet's best goodies

    Call me a cynic, but expect all branding to switch from "broadband" to "high-speed" or some other term that doesn't run afoul of the FCC definition.

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited February 2015
    Except those providers who do meet it, and who then can point out theirs is by definition better

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    SyphonBlue wrote: »

    At least until a company sues them and the Supreme Court overturns all this.

    If you read the article, this is a case-by-case-basis which requires a specific petition, and in the two cases the ISPs were already in operation when the limiting laws were put into place. The powers are explicitly granted to the FCC by the Telecommunications Act of 1996. So doesn't seem like there's much basis for challenge. The important thing for this one is established precedent.

    Like precedent a thing to the current SC.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    Except those providers who do meet it, and who then can point out theirs is by definition better

    Unless you live in the 98% of the country that only has 1 ISP.

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Well if you only have one ISP then this is entirely irrelevant because they don't offer "broadband" then so much as "the internet"

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    a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2015
    The big losers for the broadband re-definition are the big DSL providers like AT&T and Verizon. The cable companies have no problem offering 25/3 service on their current networks, especially if they're on DOCSIS 3 for the last-mile services.

    The real fun for cable operators begins in 4-5 years when the definition gets bumped again to 100/10 or something. 100mbps is possible on current technology, but it will require a significant back-end investment to deliver that to everyone.

    Also, these definitions are apparently tied to a number of tax credits and federal subsidies, hence why AT&T and Verizon are upset about it.

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    destroyah87destroyah87 They/Them Preferred: She/Her - Please UseRegistered User regular
    edited February 2015
    a5ehren wrote: »
    The big losers for the broadband re-definition are the big DSL providers like AT&T and Verizon. The cable companies have no problem offering 25/3 service on their current networks, especially if they're on DOCSIS 3 for the last-mile services.

    The real fun for cable operators begins in 4-5 years when the definition gets bumped again to 100/10 or something. 100mbps is possible on current technology, but it will require a significant back-end investment to deliver that to everyone.

    Also, these definitions are apparently tied to a number of tax credits and federal subsidies, hence why AT&T and Verizon are upset about it.

    I just want to say regarding the bold: Good.

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    Someone must've body snatched Tom Wheeler because he was -not- this consumer friendly about a year ago.


    The Comcast/Timewarner merger seems to be falling apart too.

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    Someone must've body snatched Tom Wheeler because he was -not- this consumer friendly about a year ago.


    The Comcast/Timewarner merger seems to be falling apart too.

    I want to say it's because he educated himself on the consequences and ramifications of ridding the US of Net Neutrality, and the effect it would have on consumers, local governments, and anyone else who doesn't have billions of dollars in their coffers.

    More than likely someone made some vague connection to China and national security or someone higher than him told him his constituency would be soo pissed if he did it.

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    Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    Someone must've body snatched Tom Wheeler because he was -not- this consumer friendly about a year ago.

    He's just really really desperate to prove that he's not a dingo.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    Someone must've body snatched Tom Wheeler because he was -not- this consumer friendly about a year ago.

    He's just really really desperate to prove that he's not a dingo.

    Quite frankly, it's the end results that matter, so I don't care whether it's some trumped up stupid reason or if he's seen the light. If they keep making decisions like these, it's all fine by me.

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    hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    Someone must've body snatched Tom Wheeler because he was -not- this consumer friendly about a year ago.

    He's just really really desperate to prove that he's not a dingo.

    Didn't Obama say he was going to take a more active hand in the FCC's work a few months ago? And we were all like, pishaw, yeah right?

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    Trace wrote: »
    Someone must've body snatched Tom Wheeler because he was -not- this consumer friendly about a year ago.

    He's just really really desperate to prove that he's not a dingo.

    Didn't Obama say he was going to take a more active hand in the FCC's work a few months ago? And we were all like, pishaw, yeah right?

    "Tom, in case you didn't know, as President I get six secret assassinations--no questions asked--from the CIA. Per term. So the question is this: Do you feel lucky, punk?"

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    FaranguFarangu I am a beardy man With a beardy planRegistered User regular
    Wheeler immediately calls his bluff because Boehner, McConnell and Cruz are still breathing

    Wheeler takes newfound confidence, starts with the broadband redefinition

    Obama sits back, says "when you've done something right, people can't tell if you've done anything at all", lights Cuban stogie

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    CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    Farangu wrote: »
    Wheeler immediately calls his bluff because Boehner, McConnell and Cruz are still breathing

    Wheeler takes newfound confidence, starts with the broadband redefinition

    Obama sits back, says "when you've done something right, people can't tell if you've done anything at all", lights Cuban stogie

    I feel like this would make a good plot for a multimillion view Youtube video.

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    DaimarDaimar A Million Feet Tall of Awesome Registered User regular
    Corehealer wrote: »
    Farangu wrote: »
    Wheeler immediately calls his bluff because Boehner, McConnell and Cruz are still breathing

    Wheeler takes newfound confidence, starts with the broadband redefinition

    Obama sits back, says "when you've done something right, people can't tell if you've done anything at all", lights Cuban stogie

    I feel like this would make a good plot for a multimillion view Youtube video.

    Add in Hitler screaming at the end and you're golden.

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    HounHoun Registered User regular
    Corehealer wrote: »
    Farangu wrote: »
    Wheeler immediately calls his bluff because Boehner, McConnell and Cruz are still breathing

    Wheeler takes newfound confidence, starts with the broadband redefinition

    Obama sits back, says "when you've done something right, people can't tell if you've done anything at all", lights Cuban stogie

    I feel like this would make a good plot for a multimillion view Youtube video.

    "Video is not Available in your Country"

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    With speed throttling likely going away, expect to see more hard data caps on home internet packages

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
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