There was a guy in my acting class today. He was bad mouthing Grindhouse. He hasn't seen it of course. The guy was going on and on about how stupid it looked. "A girl with a gun on her leg, that's dumb! That doesn't make any sense." Then I tried getting him to understand the concept. He would have none of it. Then he moved onto Death Proof. Apparently he thought the car was magic or something, because of how Kurt Russel phrased his car's ability to not kill him in a crash. At that point I was at a loss for words and was trying to collect enough sanity to counter argue him. This wouldn't be, because he then unleased this gem, "This looks even dumber than Kill Bill!" I was getting frustrated. "Kill Bill was a stupid movie!" On and on he went. Then someone asked him if he liked Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction. No. Of course not. Those were terrible films.
At that point I realized that I was dealing with some sort of half-human, more beast than man, that no amount of reason or logic would sway. We weren't going to find a common ground on this day.
And that is why an Ice Cube film did better than Grindhouse.
To be fair I also thought Grindhouse looked dumb at first
But I still wouldn't subject myself to that kind of torture
I'm assuming you saw it, or else you're just blowin smoke. The critics seem to think it's a good movie. Yahoo is giving it a critic B and users are giving it a B+. Scott (whoever the fuck that is) and roeper both gave it thumbs up. Sounds like a pretty good movie.
No
If it changes a vital plot premise so teenagers can relate to it then it is a teen flick
Also I find it highly doubtful that your sole judge on a movie's quality is "WELL THE CRITICS LIKED IT OLOL"
I didn't say iy was. I said the critics seem to think it was a good movie, and thats a pretty good indication that it is a good movie. I also said the average users thought it was a good movie, and I guess that would be better to go by because they're more likely to include people with similar tastes as us.
So did you see the movie?
No, and I don't plan to
But since I apparently can't form an opinion without seeing it, I seem to be in quite the conundrum!
I never said you couldn't form an oppinnion, I just think it's ridiculous to say a movie's bad without seeing it. Why are you getting so defensive?
everyone ive talked to whose seen it say it was really good but not what they expected.
so now it has to live up to my imagination because im not expecting anything
fuck the cochlea
maybe if i put it on the forum ill be able to study it better
It's not always ridiculous to say a movie is going to suck if you've never seen it.
It's just my opinnion that disturbia doesn't look too bad. I think it's ridiculous to hold the fact that it's a remake against a movie when we've had some spectacular remakes in the last decade.
It's not always ridiculous to say a movie is going to suck if you've never seen it.
It's just my opinnion that disturbia doesn't look too bad. I think it's ridiculous to hold the fact that it's a remake against a movie when we've had some spectacular remakes in the last decade.
Yeah, but none of them are remakes of Hitchcock Thrillers with Jimmy Stewart.
I love Tarantino movies because theres always a moral lesson.
The moral lesson in Pulp Fiction is "Marcellus Wallace does not like to be fucked by anyone but Mrs. Wallace."
The moral in Kill Bill was "if you're going to kill the world's foremost female assassin shoot her twice, for fuck's sake. Two in the fucking head."
The moral in Deathproof was "always give Kurt Russel a lapdance or he'll kill you and all your friends."
They cut out the lap dance and other parts to make the film shorter. When they show the movies seperate they'll show them in there normal length and not the twofer Grindhouse length. In my opinion I cant decide which was better because they were both tits. But as a motor head hearing chicks talk abouting a Kowalski special was the hottest thing I've heard in a long time. Plus I found the Vanishing Point vs Pretty in Pink discussion as a good way to seperate hot, sexy chicks from hot sexy, badass chicks. In short Grindhouse was some of the bossiest pieces of film I can remeber seeing at the theaters in ages.
PS was the Challenger a six-pack, because if it was it be so much bosser?
You think you're being sarcastic, but it really is the same thing
Except you're supporting your argument with a few critics
Yea you're right. Well, you would be if there weren't 5 other movies that it spawned from to form an opinnion about it. You could have seen scary movie 3 and 4 and date movie and known that epic movie would be just as bad.
Looking at Disturbia, the only other movie to compare it to is rear window, which was good.
You're holding the fact that it's a remake against it, and that is flawed in my opinnion.
Actually, from what I've heard about what happens in Disturbia, its relationship to Rear Window is pretty superficial aside from the whole voyuer aspect. I wouldnt call it a remake.
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You think you're being sarcastic, but it really is the same thing
Except you're supporting your argument with a few critics
Yea you're right. Well, you would be if there weren't 5 other movies that it spawned from to form an opinnion about it. You could have seen scary movie 3 and 4 and date movie and known that epic movie would be just as bad.
Looking at Disturbia, the only other movie to compare it to is rear window, which was good.
You're holding the fact that it's a remake against it, and that is flawed in my opinnion.
But just like Epic Movie, remakes already carry a lot of stigma regardless of the film itself
Traditionally, remakes completely miss the point of the original (which this one even seems to be using as a marketing tool)
Instead of a complex insight into the human mind and paranoia, Disturbia looks more like "HEY CHECK IT OUT THE NEIGHBOR IS A KILLER"
I guess I just don't see that as making the movie bad. Not every movie has to be deep and insightful. I mean hell, the saw movies were fun. I wouldn't call them bad, I wouldn't call them good either, but I would call them entertaining.
If all movies had to be complex, 300 would have been a terrible movie and no one would have liked it. I can understand why you think this movie will be bad, you think it's going to sully the name of the original. But I guess this isn't so much a remake, but rather inspired from a classic thriller.
All in all, I think this movie will be entertaining and hold enough suspense to accomplish it's mission. I don't expect it to be ground breaking, but I do think it will be entertaining.
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I guess I just don't see that as making the movie bad. Not every movie has to be deep and insightful. I mean hell, the saw movies were fun. I wouldn't call them bad, I wouldn't call them good either, but I would call them entertaining.
If all movies had to be complex, 300 would have been a terrible movie and no one would have liked it. I can understand why you think this movie will be bad, you think it's going to sully the name of the original. But I guess this isn't so much a remake, but rather inspired from a classic thriller.
All in all, I think this movie will be entertaining and hold enough suspense to accomplish it's mission. I don't expect it to be ground breaking, but I do think it will be entertaining.
I didn't say complex = good
You asked what I had against remakes, and I gave a specific example
I think we are just going around in circles at this point
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To be fair I also thought Grindhouse looked dumb at first
But I still wouldn't subject myself to that kind of torture
people have different personalities and enjoy different types of movies.
tarentino is a surrealist
also:
FUCK
no he's not, dali is a surrealist
hahahaha
that is not what that word means
see!
I just feel like I kind of am, it's weird
it's what you might call "surreal"
and that was also terrible.
can we talk about how good they were
also, has anyone seen the host?
it was pretty damn awesome
what dreams may come was good, critics were being dicks towards it though for some reason.
religion
EDIT: also pan's is really good
I never said you couldn't form an oppinnion, I just think it's ridiculous to say a movie's bad without seeing it. Why are you getting so defensive?
so now it has to live up to my imagination because im not expecting anything
fuck the cochlea
maybe if i put it on the forum ill be able to study it better
pan's labyrinth is good enough that I drove an hour to see it, three times
then it actually came to my town a month later, and I saw it again
YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S BAD IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT
its multiple choice...
maybe i can just feel my way through it
Yeah, but none of them are remakes of Hitchcock Thrillers with Jimmy Stewart.
Giving Kurt Russel a lapdance doesn't help at all!
So wait, the lapdance was in the trailer?
They cut out the lap dance and other parts to make the film shorter. When they show the movies seperate they'll show them in there normal length and not the twofer Grindhouse length. In my opinion I cant decide which was better because they were both tits. But as a motor head hearing chicks talk abouting a Kowalski special was the hottest thing I've heard in a long time. Plus I found the Vanishing Point vs Pretty in Pink discussion as a good way to seperate hot, sexy chicks from hot sexy, badass chicks. In short Grindhouse was some of the bossiest pieces of film I can remeber seeing at the theaters in ages.
PS was the Challenger a six-pack, because if it was it be so much bosser?
PSS Reservoir Dogs was QT's second movie.
That I understood, I had just figured they were saving all the cut bits for the inevitable DVD release.
Grindhouse was the best thing I've seen in a long time. I just Netflixed Double Dare to see more Zoe Bell and Tarantino.
You think you're being sarcastic, but it really is the same thing
Except you're supporting your argument with a few critics
Yea you're right. Well, you would be if there weren't 5 other movies that it spawned from to form an opinnion about it. You could have seen scary movie 3 and 4 and date movie and known that epic movie would be just as bad.
Looking at Disturbia, the only other movie to compare it to is rear window, which was good.
You're holding the fact that it's a remake against it, and that is flawed in my opinnion.
But just like Epic Movie, remakes already carry a lot of stigma regardless of the film itself
Traditionally, remakes completely miss the point of the original (which this one even seems to be using as a marketing tool)
Instead of a complex insight into the human mind and paranoia, Disturbia looks more like "HEY CHECK IT OUT THE NEIGHBOR IS A KILLER"
If all movies had to be complex, 300 would have been a terrible movie and no one would have liked it. I can understand why you think this movie will be bad, you think it's going to sully the name of the original. But I guess this isn't so much a remake, but rather inspired from a classic thriller.
All in all, I think this movie will be entertaining and hold enough suspense to accomplish it's mission. I don't expect it to be ground breaking, but I do think it will be entertaining.
I didn't say complex = good
You asked what I had against remakes, and I gave a specific example
I think we are just going around in circles at this point