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[Megaten/Persona Discussion] SMTxFE returns(without much SMT).

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    She's so cute that I felt physical pain.

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    same

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    vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    She's so cute that I felt physical pain.

    Today in the Megaten thread, we are witnessing the specimen known as Reynolds discovering for himself the concept of "Moe" is, and its profound effect on certain people.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Oh no...the moe was calling from inside my house the whole time!

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    everydays great at your junes

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    StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    stop bringing tears to my eyes sheesh

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Just beat Persona Q, wow, did not expect so many feels at the end of this.

    Those final battles were buuullshit though. I beat them first try but I was very close to running out of items and SP. And I had completely stocked up beforehand.

    Finished at level 71.

    I'm going to give it a break before going through on the P3 side.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    It feels really weird, but I went ahead and turned on the auto-wall-mapping. I feel like I've committed some sort of EO sin. But this seems to be pretty light and breezy so far, at least compared to the mainline games. They even automatically put down the correct shortcut tags, and change them if you turn a one-way path into a two-way path. Same for tracking opened chests, doors, etc. Maybe if later dungeons start getting really nutty with the layouts and tricks I'll go back to doing it all by hand, just to be safe.

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    ArtereisArtereis Registered User regular
    I'd feel worse about the wall-mapping if the game didn't have the treasure chests that force you to walk on every map tile. In EO, I would often draw rooms and paint in the floor while only actually walking along the walls looking for secret passages.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Artereis wrote: »
    I'd feel worse about the wall-mapping if the game didn't have the treasure chests that force you to walk on every map tile. In EO, I would often draw rooms and paint in the floor while only actually walking along the walls looking for secret passages.

    Heretic.

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    AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Artereis wrote: »
    I'd feel worse about the wall-mapping if the game didn't have the treasure chests that force you to walk on every map tile. In EO, I would often draw rooms and paint in the floor while only actually walking along the walls looking for secret passages.

    Heretic.
    Yeah, I did the same in Etrian. Remember though that you can always use play coins to open those chests. Just try to get it relatively close to 100% and it should be pretty cheap. Of course, that's coming someone who doesn't use those for anything else. Just don't force yourself to run onto damage tiles or fight all the FOEs on the floor just to open a chest.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    I used automapping for the walls too because I'm left handed and the game didn't care to make that easy for me.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    I finally found a new Persona for Rise: Fortuna. I had to get rid of Yomi Return and that heal spell in the fusion process, but it was worth it.

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    ArtereisArtereis Registered User regular
    She's had Kaguya pretty much all game, for me.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    So, this is a thing that exists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPwSBrnQ7gU

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Against my better judgement I started playing Devil Survivor Overclocked even though I still haven't finished Persona Q.

    IIRC Magic is the way to go in that game, right?

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    For the MC, yeah. Max magic and give him the Dance spells, Almighty stuff later. Your sidekick in the hat will wind up using all of the good physical skills.

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    vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    Maz- wrote: »
    Against my better judgement I started playing Devil Survivor Overclocked even though I still haven't finished Persona Q.

    IIRC Magic is the way to go in that game, right?

    It's not that Magic is exceptionally better than Physical. It's that the game gives you way more Magical than Physical skills, only one Pierce skill, and you'll always have at least one competent physical party member. It's hard to have two good physical characters in one team with the game's skill economy.

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    SkulloSkullo Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    Almighty Spells, Drain, and Magic Yang! Almighty spells on his demons.
    Spam until the level is the clear or you're out of MP, then spam Drain until you can start again.

    I just got to the 7th day for my DS:O.

    Path spoilers below
    I chose Naoya's route. I have not been into this replay- I'm realizing now why I never replayed the original version of this game: I hate all the characters!

    Cut to day 7, and I pick my route. Turns out we're on our way to kill God. This I can get behind. Everyone I don't like leaves my team- Awesome!

    And then a Black Frost joins you- okay, DS:O. The last 22 hours have all been worth it and I'm sorry I said mean things. Best route ever.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Yeah, the Dance spells were pretty ridiculous in DS 2, so I guess I'm gonna go down that route. Thanks everyone.

    Also: Yuzu's voice actress is incredibly annoying. Like, god damn.

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    SkulloSkullo Registered User regular
    Just wait till you get to Midori.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    I'd actually like to replay P3 before I really get into Q and Ultimax.

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    Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    I suck at DS Overclocked. Either that or it purposely makes missions designed to fuck you at just the wrong time.

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    SkulloSkullo Registered User regular
    You could just be under leveled.

    Overclocked can be a dick though, especially with some of the victory conditions. RNG and Ally AI can be a hell of a thing. I've found myself basically save scumming thanks to the suspend feature.

    For leveling, I tend to spend time between fights running all the free battles until I've cracked all the skills, then usually a few more times to grind macca.

    If I can fuse a good demon (aiming for multiple resistances, at the very least covering a demon's built in weaknesses), I'll buy another copy right from the compendium, and if I had to spend a demon I liked I'll grind until I can afford to resummon it.

    Sorry if you're a MegaTen vet or something and this all basic advice. DS2 is one of my favorite games, and I'm jut coming back to Overclocked this week so I feel your pain.

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    Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    I'm basically familiar with how the games are played, more or less. Most of my losses come from NPCs who get themselves killed or apparently one guy fleeing somehow prevents us from saving the world. Also some fights have massive increases in incoming damage for no given reason.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Quick questions about Persona Q:

    Not really a big spoiler (just mechanics questions)
    1. Does the game always prompt you to kill FOEs? I don't want to skip story bits but I know the game introduces you to FOR murderizing after you open up the second labyrinth. I went ahead and killed one of the painting cards too - should I have waited? I had the quest for the non-painting cards only...

    2. Do FOEs respond? How/when? There's no passing of time so I don't know how that would work...

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Magus` wrote: »
    I suck at DS Overclocked. Either that or it purposely makes missions designed to fuck you at just the wrong time.

    Escort quests, which are like 90% of missions, are carefully designed trolls.

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    Zerozaki IshikiZerozaki Ishiki Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Quick questions about Persona Q:

    Not really a big spoiler (just mechanics questions)
    1. Does the game always prompt you to kill FOEs? I don't want to skip story bits but I know the game introduces you to FOR murderizing after you open up the second labyrinth. I went ahead and killed one of the painting cards too - should I have waited? I had the quest for the non-painting cards only...

    2. Do FOEs respond? How/when? There's no passing of time so I don't know how that would work...

    You only get quests for some of them, and they do respawn eventually, so feel free to murder away if you think you can take them. The sooner the better, really, since the gear you unlock will get outleveled eventually.

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    heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    That's the second dungeon beaten...I think I actually overleveled because he just melted. Or maybe that was just because kanji was hitting 400 damage with a crit.

    Basically what I'm saying is fuck magic. Beat things to death with a chair.

    M A G I K A Z A M
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    Zerozaki IshikiZerozaki Ishiki Registered User regular
    heenato wrote: »
    That's the second dungeon beaten...I think I actually overleveled because he just melted. Or maybe that was just because kanji was hitting 400 damage with a crit.

    Basically what I'm saying is fuck magic. Beat things to death with a chair.

    I think that second boss is just easy.
    Then again, he had some gimmick going on where he banned stuff, but I never figured out what that entailed, since I never need to use anything he banned.
    Shame you can't replay these bosses, the bosses that replace them are waaaay less interesting/fun.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Quick questions about Persona Q:

    Not really a big spoiler (just mechanics questions)
    1. Does the game always prompt you to kill FOEs? I don't want to skip story bits but I know the game introduces you to FOR murderizing after you open up the second labyrinth. I went ahead and killed one of the painting cards too - should I have waited? I had the quest for the non-painting cards only...

    2. Do FOEs respond? How/when? There's no passing of time so I don't know how that would work...

    You only get quests for some of them, and they do respawn eventually, so feel free to murder away if you think you can take them. The sooner the better, really, since the gear you unlock will get outleveled eventually.

    Okay thanks. Is there a specific trigger on their respawn?

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    heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    heenato wrote: »
    That's the second dungeon beaten...I think I actually overleveled because he just melted. Or maybe that was just because kanji was hitting 400 damage with a crit.

    Basically what I'm saying is fuck magic. Beat things to death with a chair.

    I think that second boss is just easy.
    Then again, he had some gimmick going on where he banned stuff, but I never figured out what that entailed, since I never need to use anything he banned.
    Shame you can't replay these bosses, the bosses that replace them are waaaay less interesting/fun.
    Oh. That's easy.
    Each of the 4 coffins corresponds to a command, Red is attack, Yellow is skills, Green is items, and blue is support command

    And yeah, he was easy, but I'm going through the third dungeon now just bludgeoning shit to death and having Naoto instakill everything. I mean, I suppose I'll eventually run into something that is resistant to physical, but Eh. I'll have the P3 MC switch to a magic persona, and have him, Yukari and Naoto take the heavy lifting.

    M A G I K A Z A M
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    Zerozaki IshikiZerozaki Ishiki Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Quick questions about Persona Q:

    Not really a big spoiler (just mechanics questions)
    1. Does the game always prompt you to kill FOEs? I don't want to skip story bits but I know the game introduces you to FOR murderizing after you open up the second labyrinth. I went ahead and killed one of the painting cards too - should I have waited? I had the quest for the non-painting cards only...

    2. Do FOEs respond? How/when? There's no passing of time so I don't know how that would work...

    You only get quests for some of them, and they do respawn eventually, so feel free to murder away if you think you can take them. The sooner the better, really, since the gear you unlock will get outleveled eventually.

    Okay thanks. Is there a specific trigger on their respawn?

    Not sure. I think it's just number of times in and out of a dungeon.

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    TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    I loved Persona 4 (replaying it to get all Social Links now) and grabbed Persona 3 on a flash sale a few months ago. I was taken off-guard by
    the time skip
    near the end of 4. Does one of those happen on P3 FES as well?

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Skullo wrote: »
    Just wait till you get to Midori.

    You mean the best character in the game?

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    MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Quick questions about Persona Q:

    Not really a big spoiler (just mechanics questions)
    1. Does the game always prompt you to kill FOEs? I don't want to skip story bits but I know the game introduces you to FOR murderizing after you open up the second labyrinth. I went ahead and killed one of the painting cards too - should I have waited? I had the quest for the non-painting cards only...

    2. Do FOEs respond? How/when? There's no passing of time so I don't know how that would work...

    You only get quests for some of them, and they do respawn eventually, so feel free to murder away if you think you can take them. The sooner the better, really, since the gear you unlock will get outleveled eventually.

    Okay thanks. Is there a specific trigger on their respawn?

    Not sure. I think it's just number of times in and out of a dungeon.

    To be more specific, I believe FOEs respawn each time you leave a labyrinth, much like Power Spots. Makes it fairly easy to farm up Personas and materials if you need them.

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    vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Skullo wrote: »
    Just wait till you get to Midori.

    You mean the best character in the game?

    I like you. You're good people.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    heenato wrote: »
    That's the second dungeon beaten...I think I actually overleveled because he just melted. Or maybe that was just because kanji was hitting 400 damage with a crit.

    Basically what I'm saying is fuck magic. Beat things to death with a chair.

    I think that second boss is just easy.
    Then again, he had some gimmick going on where he banned stuff, but I never figured out what that entailed, since I never need to use anything he banned.
    Shame you can't replay these bosses, the bosses that replace them are waaaay less interesting/fun.


    I remember Ahriman.

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    SkulloSkullo Registered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Skullo wrote: »
    Just wait till you get to Midori.

    You mean the best character in the game?

    I don't remember typing Black Frost.

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    SkulloSkullo Registered User regular
    Finished my first Overclocked run. Route was a little different than I expected it to be.

    I'm confused by the 8th day vs Clear Data option, however. If I play through the 8th day, do I lose out on any titles and the ability to create clear data after completing the 8th day? It made it seem like I wouldn't be able to do a NG+ if I chose to play the 8th day.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Nah, it's fine.

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