Most people I read online prefer to refer to them as TWERFs (trans-women...) because while they don't like trans-women they are fine with trans-men because 'they're women.'
A lot of them really aren't, though. Trans men get shit on for any number of reasons. Usually gentler than the crap they give trans women, but still pretty bad.
Most people I read online prefer to refer to them as TWERFs (trans-women...) because while they don't like trans-women they are fine with trans-men because 'they're women.'
I prefer the term fucktard. I sometimes try to think of something worse to call them so I can use the term for less offensive groups without lumping them in with that trash. One day it will come to me.
I still see people getting offended by being labled as "cis" when they know what the term means.
Would they prefer trans or
Anyone who knows what "cis" means but is offended by it would probably prefer the word "normal"
Which is stupid+shitty
There was a time when I agreed with that notion, but I came to the realization that it's really not acceptable or socially responsible to only apply labels to people who don't fit into the norm.
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I think also the problem is that "normal" can mean "most abundant" but also has strong connotations of "correct".
"Majority" is probably a better term when you want to refer to "the norm"
I really don't want to be attacked by you all for this, but someone has to say something after some of the posts I've seen here..
Its not all that weird a concept to understand some people, that some women are anti-feminism. I can't and wont say the reasons are the same across the board, but in my experience Feminism has a very vocal fringe minority that are often the loudest voices in the room, and use that position to attack men and call for castration of all men and assault men in public with verbal abuse and accusations of rape just because they so happened to look in their general direction and call women who choose to be live at home mothers traitors and all sorts of other obscene ugly things.
Please take notice I'm not lumping all feminism in with that, that I very specifically pointed out its a fringe minority, I really hope that this hasn't burned my bridges here and made me persona non grata or worse..
Ok seriously WHERE are you people SEEING all this stuff?
I like, actively seek out feminist spaces and have never run across anything like this so seriously what the heck
Yeah, you really have to go out of your way to find the shitty "BURN ALL DICKS" types that dudes (and some women) love to paint as the standard feminist.
I've never actually met such a person or held discourse with them.
They're such a minority that they barely register on the spectrum. But, of course, for many people those few are all they want to talk about.
A lot of them really aren't, though. Trans men get shit on for any number of reasons. Usually gentler than the crap they give trans women, but still pretty bad.
Trans men tend to "pass" better, which is great for avoiding violence, discrimination, and the like
But also makes their problems invisible
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Geth my favorite thing about you isn't just that you've always been really sweet to me, it's that you do it faster than I can post something. You are so cool it blows my mind.
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CRUSHING HOPES AND DREAMS, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING HERE.
Geth my favorite thing about you isn't just that you've always been really sweet to me, it's that you do it faster than I can post something. You are so cool it blows my mind.
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CRUSHING HOPES AND DREAMS, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING HERE.
I swear he shows up in some threads more than others.
Geth my favorite thing about you isn't just that you've always been really sweet to me, it's that you do it faster than I can post something. You are so cool it blows my mind.
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CRUSHING HOPES AND DREAMS, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING HERE.
I swear he shows up in some threads more than others.
If he didn't that wouldn't be random.
EDIT: at least, given most standard random number generation algorithms (Box-Muller excepted).
Geth my favorite thing about you isn't just that you've always been really sweet to me, it's that you do it faster than I can post something. You are so cool it blows my mind.
In case you did not know, Geth is an automated forum bot that occasionally throws out response/reaction buttons at posts.
CRUSHING HOPES AND DREAMS, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING HERE.
I swear he shows up in some threads more than others.
He actually posted the other day and I about shat myself.
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Most people I read online prefer to refer to them as TWERFs (trans-women...) because while they don't like trans-women they are fine with trans-men because 'they're women.'
The most common view among TERF's is that trans-men are just victims of the patriarchy who are trying to assume the roles of men to get away from oppression. They don't recognize their choice as legitimate or them as men, in fact you mention how they're fine with them because they're still women but surely being fine with trans-men means recognizing them as men?
I think TERF is the better term because, while most of the hate and anger is directed towards trans-women, trans-men aren't recognized either.
They're pretty terrible, really.
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I read down the list of core beliefs and my eyes sort of glazed over and rolled to disbelieve.
And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
I read down the list of core beliefs and my eyes sort of glazed over and rolled to disbelieve.
Oh sure when you roll to disbelieve it's perfectly sensible, when I do it it's because I'm insane!
fyndir
you can't "roll to disbelieve" your electricity bill
that's not how bills work
What about a natural 20
It's only automatic if he's trying to hit his electrician.
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geth roll 1d20+23 to intimidate fyndir into believing reality exists
to intimidate fyndir into believing reality exists:
1d20+2340 [1d20=17]
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The GM finally started letting him disbelieve things that were actually there into nonexistence, including an avatar of Sarenrae.
And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
Geth roll 1d20+18 Charisma to convince @zerzhul that he does not exist
that he does not exist:
1d20+1830 [1d20=12]
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That's a pretty good roll.
And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
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I prefer the term fucktard. I sometimes try to think of something worse to call them so I can use the term for less offensive groups without lumping them in with that trash. One day it will come to me.
Dang, major points to Paizo. That's awesome.
There was a time when I agreed with that notion, but I came to the realization that it's really not acceptable or socially responsible to only apply labels to people who don't fit into the norm.
"Majority" is probably a better term when you want to refer to "the norm"
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"quotation marks"
Yeah, you really have to go out of your way to find the shitty "BURN ALL DICKS" types that dudes (and some women) love to paint as the standard feminist.
I've never actually met such a person or held discourse with them.
They're such a minority that they barely register on the spectrum. But, of course, for many people those few are all they want to talk about.
Trans men tend to "pass" better, which is great for avoiding violence, discrimination, and the like
But also makes their problems invisible
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There's some quibbles between the two groups that I avoid like the plague
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Twitter (mean leftist discourse)
Fair enough!
Also, a T-Rex making air quotes with her little tiny arms is a great mental image
A t-rex that is a stand-up comedian
Actual joke sonar
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CRUSHING HOPES AND DREAMS, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING HERE.
All telling jokes
no one laughs
audience members start getting eaten
This is like Perry BIble Fellowship page waiting to happen.
I swear he shows up in some threads more than others.
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If he didn't that wouldn't be random.
EDIT: at least, given most standard random number generation algorithms (Box-Muller excepted).
Corythosaurus walks into a bar.
Bartender says, "Why the big, hollow nasal crest?"
Corythosaurus says "It functions like an echo chamber, allowing me to emit loud blasts of noise!"
Try the shrimp!
He actually posted the other day and I about shat myself.
The most common view among TERF's is that trans-men are just victims of the patriarchy who are trying to assume the roles of men to get away from oppression. They don't recognize their choice as legitimate or them as men, in fact you mention how they're fine with them because they're still women but surely being fine with trans-men means recognizing them as men?
I think TERF is the better term because, while most of the hate and anger is directed towards trans-women, trans-men aren't recognized either.
They're pretty terrible, really.
Oh sure when you roll to disbelieve it's perfectly sensible, when I do it it's because I'm insane!
fyndir
you can't "roll to disbelieve" your electricity bill
that's not how bills work
What about a natural 20
It's only automatic if he's trying to hit his electrician.
The hell I can't!
My bitcoin farm will never be profitable at this rate!
geth roll 1d20+10 to disbelieve Pony.
Charisma is both my primary and my dump stat.
let me see that character sheet
...
...oh i see
oh
well uh... carry on then
Source:
http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/classes/fighter.html#_fighter 3 levels, http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/classes/cleric.html#_cleric 5 levels, resulting in Will save base of 5, Wisdom 18 giving that a +4, and Feat: Iron Will, providing a +2.