Swannee whistle
Kazoo
One man band
Internal boombox (Warforged only)
Threeba (like a tuba, but bigger)
Pipe organ on a cart
Finger cymbals
Armpit sounds
Swannee whistle
Kazoo
One man band
Internal boombox (Warforged only)
Threeba (like a tuba, but bigger)
Pipe organ on a cart
Finger cymbals
Armpit sounds
monk is so aggressively sub-optimal it's basically a challenge to make something good with one
you can, sure
but you can pick up a cleric or druid and just like
go
with barely a care in the world
they're no-brainer classes
you take that same approach with monk and you're garbage
i'm sure someone will try to argue with me that presents some kind of roleplaying opportunity but i dunno dogg
i've never seen a D&D player sitting at the table realize his character is fucking trash compared to everyone else and be happy about it unless he like
If you've got a party with lots of 'person with a tragic past' then I guess it could be fun to roleplay a monk as some kind of counselor.
"Tell me about these feelings of rage that you have... Other party members have expressed concern over your tendency to break things. I feel that if we explore these feelings we might be able to get to the bottom of it and help you become a more balanced person."
Talking about dumb characters makes me wish I could find a way to viably and enjoyable play Sir Fabilus the Beautiful. Half-orc paladin with maxed out Charisma, with Wis completely dumped and Int not a whole lot better.
monk is so aggressively sub-optimal it's basically a challenge to make something good with one
you can, sure
but you can pick up a cleric or druid and just like
go
with barely a care in the world
they're no-brainer classes
you take that same approach with monk and you're garbage
i'm sure someone will try to argue with me that presents some kind of roleplaying opportunity but i dunno dogg
i've never seen a D&D player sitting at the table realize his character is fucking trash compared to everyone else and be happy about it unless he like
aggressively did it on purpose
I don't really feel the need to argue about it. My Pathfinder Monk has been very effective at what she does and she's a hell of a lot of fun to play.
She's a Silent Monk, so she never talks, yet is also the Warden of our kingdom (essentially chief of police), so she'd had to spend time teaching all of her town watchmen sign language. And then she had to learn Kobold sign language, because we had a colony of Kobold move into town, and then teach that to all the human townsfolk.
I spend most of my time in sessions frantically pantomiming to the other players, writing short things down on scraps of paper, or doing my awful ASLAN to one of our players who is fluent in it.
But then whenever we get into combat she just hits things until they stop moving and has been pretty damn effective at doing so.
And next level she's going to have a cohort. Who will, of course, be a cute little Kobold.
So yeah, I certainly don't feel like she's a powerhouse compared to the cutting-edge super min-maxed characters that one might see at a Pathfinder Society game, or with other players who just like doing that with character. And maybe I'm having to put a lot more work into making her as good as some random Barbarian. But whatever, she's fun, and I guess I don't care about playing a class that is considered sub-optimal when I am having fun with it.
Also you are comparing two spellcasters to a martial class in, well, Pathfinder. Not exactly a fair comparison :P
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I read a collection of short stories that were the bomb. Point in case: a Cossack light cavalry brigade charge a nuclear explosion in a semi post apocalyptic world war three.
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Does anyone have good sources for premade adventures? Preferably with the crunch as generic as possible. I need an urban adventure to get back into the groove of things with my game after a hiatus...
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Does anyone have good sources for premade adventures? Preferably with the crunch as generic as possible. I need an urban adventure to get back into the groove of things with my game after a hiatus...
for what system?
because the pathfinder adventure paths are all super well written and take you from 1-16ish over 6 books
Does anyone have good sources for premade adventures? Preferably with the crunch as generic as possible. I need an urban adventure to get back into the groove of things with my game after a hiatus...
for what system?
because the pathfinder adventure paths are all super well written and take you from 1-16ish over 6 books
PF is fine. I'm running 3.5 because I'm stubborn and old school like that. I figure I can easily convert PF stuff.
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Fighter with a polearm focus and the leadership feat with a cohort that carries one of every polearm in the game. The cohort acts as his caddy and advises him on the best pole arm for every encounter.
Quick aside, that's known as a "Batman" in older (pre-industrial) military terminology.
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I have made a couple of good Monk builds. In 3.5E, it was Druid 9 before multiclassing, where you basically got to Brown Bear+Stoneskin and then just take monk levels to increase Large unarmed damage, unarmored AC, and mobility. Essentially Kung Fu Panda.
The second is in Pathfinder, use a Reach weapon. Combat Reflexes let you make stupid amounts of Reach AoOs, and if they get smart and get inside your guard, you can then Flurry of Blows on them because you can still make unarmed attacks even if your hands are full. Bonus points if you take a strong race with a natural attack, take Improved Natural Attack, ad Feral Combat Training.
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Just all "I shall play an invigorating song of valor abd bravery to steel our hearts for combat!" *doww digga brow boww boww digga dowe*
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Swannee whistle
Kazoo
One man band
Internal boombox (Warforged only)
Threeba (like a tuba, but bigger)
Pipe organ on a cart
Finger cymbals
Armpit sounds
VUVUZELA
It's the length of my index finger! That's a really small recorder.
I dunno, some Pathfinder Monk builds can be pretty damn fun.
Not amazing, like some classes, but not shitty.
But it's very easy to make a shitty monk.
you can, sure
but you can pick up a cleric or druid and just like
go
with barely a care in the world
they're no-brainer classes
you take that same approach with monk and you're garbage
i'm sure someone will try to argue with me that presents some kind of roleplaying opportunity but i dunno dogg
i've never seen a D&D player sitting at the table realize his character is fucking trash compared to everyone else and be happy about it unless he like
aggressively did it on purpose
"Tell me about these feelings of rage that you have... Other party members have expressed concern over your tendency to break things. I feel that if we explore these feelings we might be able to get to the bottom of it and help you become a more balanced person."
"...I'm a berserker."
I don't really feel the need to argue about it. My Pathfinder Monk has been very effective at what she does and she's a hell of a lot of fun to play.
She's a Silent Monk, so she never talks, yet is also the Warden of our kingdom (essentially chief of police), so she'd had to spend time teaching all of her town watchmen sign language. And then she had to learn Kobold sign language, because we had a colony of Kobold move into town, and then teach that to all the human townsfolk.
I spend most of my time in sessions frantically pantomiming to the other players, writing short things down on scraps of paper, or doing my awful ASLAN to one of our players who is fluent in it.
But then whenever we get into combat she just hits things until they stop moving and has been pretty damn effective at doing so.
And next level she's going to have a cohort. Who will, of course, be a cute little Kobold.
So yeah, I certainly don't feel like she's a powerhouse compared to the cutting-edge super min-maxed characters that one might see at a Pathfinder Society game, or with other players who just like doing that with character. And maybe I'm having to put a lot more work into making her as good as some random Barbarian. But whatever, she's fun, and I guess I don't care about playing a class that is considered sub-optimal when I am having fun with it.
Also you are comparing two spellcasters to a martial class in, well, Pathfinder. Not exactly a fair comparison :P
Just constantly shouts "Commence to jigglin', ya'll!"
"Bard, a solution to a puzzle is required - sing me a buff to Int and Wis!"
Nematode worm
Octopus in a bag
Chicken
Sloth
Hummingbird
Unicorn that only you can see
Rock with googly eyes on it
I would often ask it if it knows any dark secrets.
I read a collection of short stories that were the bomb. Point in case: a Cossack light cavalry brigade charge a nuclear explosion in a semi post apocalyptic world war three.
how dumb we talking here?
like
you wanna literally become king at lvl 5?
for what system?
because the pathfinder adventure paths are all super well written and take you from 1-16ish over 6 books
Have a character specialized in fighting with ladders
Cowboy wizard
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/cavalier/orders/paizo---cavalier-orders/order-of-the-penitent
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo---fighter-archetypes/cad
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/archetypes/paizo---wizard-archetypes/spellslinger
any more?
PF is fine. I'm running 3.5 because I'm stubborn and old school like that. I figure I can easily convert PF stuff.
it is
it's hilarious and cool though
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/archetypes/paizo---wizard-archetypes/scrollmaster
Yeah that's the one. Has anyone figured out how to make it good?
by not playing the class
Quick aside, that's known as a "Batman" in older (pre-industrial) military terminology.
man, that guy is an asshole.
He's named Peter Dickinson.
His parents basically doomed him to be a massive prick from the cradle. I bet his middle name is Richard, just to go for the hat trick.
Edit: Oh. He's named after a real person who is presumably not a massive prick. Sorry award winning actual person Peter Dickinson.
Why I fear the ocean.
Kinda want to watch this movie now
It's a pretty sweet fucking movie, you should!
Fartcaster
Thanks, I absolutely will!
The second is in Pathfinder, use a Reach weapon. Combat Reflexes let you make stupid amounts of Reach AoOs, and if they get smart and get inside your guard, you can then Flurry of Blows on them because you can still make unarmed attacks even if your hands are full. Bonus points if you take a strong race with a natural attack, take Improved Natural Attack, ad Feral Combat Training.