I sided with the Mages the whole game, but I have no idea how anyone could side with them at the end. Its laid out to you that if you don't side with the Templars, an army will march in and kill everyone in Kirkwall. That may not be what ends up happening, but at the time, with the information you have, siding with the Templars is the only sane thing to do.
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Meh, can't have a rebellion if you're going to behave yourself once any real force is applied.
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I sided with the Mages the whole game, but I have no idea how anyone could side with them at the end. Its laid out to you that if you don't side with the Templars, an army will march in and kill everyone in Kirkwall. That may not be what ends up happening, but at the time, with the information you have, siding with the Templars is the only sane thing to do.
I disagree. Hawke is a super-human killing machine, and siding with the mages would (at least theoretically) net you the support of a bunch of people with super powers.
Without knowing what actually happens, you could make a decent argument for supporting the Mages. After all, I was more interested in fighting for Mages in all of Thedas rather than the specific people in one single city in the Free Marches.
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Also, it would probably take weeks or months for any sizable force to get to Kirkwall.
By then if everyone was smart they'd already be on the lamb.
I sided with the Mages the whole game, but I have no idea how anyone could side with them at the end. Its laid out to you that if you don't side with the Templars, an army will march in and kill everyone in Kirkwall. That may not be what ends up happening, but at the time, with the information you have, siding with the Templars is the only sane thing to do.
Think it's also laid out that a successful mage rebellion in Kirkwall will cause Circles everywhere to revolt, too, no? It's implied that the rebel Mage movement extends far beyond Kirkwall, so if some or all the other Circles rebel, then Kirkwall just has to deal with its own Templars.
(spoilers for post-DA2, pre-DA:I lore from books and stuff)
And that's basically what happens. Kirkwall kicks off the mage rebellion. Two years after DA2, there's an organized mage rebellion and no one ever marched on Kirkwall.
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Yeah. Leliana basically says that the Chantry is considering an Exalted March because everybody is looking at Kirkwall and a revolt there could cause a revolt everywhere else.
But I think that's tied to Sebastian's DLC so I guess it could have easily been missed.
Kind of silly with it being a pretty important plot point.
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I sided with the Mages the whole game, but I have no idea how anyone could side with them at the end. Its laid out to you that if you don't side with the Templars, an army will march in and kill everyone in Kirkwall. That may not be what ends up happening, but at the time, with the information you have, siding with the Templars is the only sane thing to do.
I disagree. Hawke is a super-human killing machine, and siding with the mages would (at least theoretically) net you the support of a bunch of people with super powers.
Without knowing what actually happens, you could make a decent argument for supporting the Mages. After all, I was more interested in fighting for Mages in all of Thedas rather than the specific people in one single city in the Free Marches.
Yea, I'm pretty sure my Hawke could take on an army of any size by himself. 2H warrior in that game was like if a giant human size blender was mixed with a Vanguard from ME.
Which is to say it was a completely unstoppable killing machine.
Without knowing what actually happens, you could make a decent argument for supporting the Mages.
And I think people who claim that supporting the Templars is the obvious thing to do aren't really taking Hawke's backstory into account. Hawke's dad was an apostate, his sister is/was an apostate, and Hawke herself could be an apostate. And Hawke's dad tasked Hawke with keeping their family out of the clutches of the Templars before he died. So... the default state of Hawke ought to be extremely anti-Templar.
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Without knowing what actually happens, you could make a decent argument for supporting the Mages.
And I think people who claim that supporting the Templars is the obvious thing to do aren't really taking Hawke's backstory into account. Hawke's dad was an apostate, his sister is/was an apostate, and Hawke herself could be an apostate. And Hawke's dad tasked Hawke with keeping their family out of the clutches of the Templars before he died. So... the default state of Hawke ought to be extremely anti-Templar.
I mean, Carver has the same background as Hawke, but is pro-Templar.
I sided with the Mages the whole game, but I have no idea how anyone could side with them at the end. Its laid out to you that if you don't side with the Templars, an army will march in and kill everyone in Kirkwall. That may not be what ends up happening, but at the time, with the information you have, siding with the Templars is the only sane thing to do.
Think it's also laid out that a successful mage rebellion in Kirkwall will cause Circles everywhere to revolt, too, no? It's implied that the rebel Mage movement extends far beyond Kirkwall, so if some or all the other Circles rebel, then Kirkwall just has to deal with its own Templars.
(spoilers for post-DA2, pre-DA:I lore from books and stuff)
And that's basically what happens. Kirkwall kicks off the mage rebellion. Two years after DA2, there's an organized mage rebellion and no one ever marched on Kirkwall.
Well yeah, the whole shit that went down at the Tower in Fereldan in DA:O was a revolt gone horribly wrong.
Default state, yeah, but Hawke can still look at the situation and say "This shit is not the way!". Though at the same time, the Chantry are a bunch of dicks, so the whole 'Exalted March' threat is pretty tempting as CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!
I'd say it's not the Chantry's fault the Templars have gone a little mage-homicidal. In fact, they're the ones trying to stop this big massive war from happening. Biggest issues the Chantry has with are many of the Tevinters (though the Imperium has its own Chantry, it's mostly in name only, and their take on Andraste is a bit different) and the Qunari (who many in the Chantry see as a direct challenge in conflicting religions; this was especially shown in Kirkwall when the Qun were stranded there).
See, here's the thing ... my first play through, I skipped the wiki, and was running a city elf.
I didn't know that I got troops of some kind regardless of my choices; I agonized about it.
'Cunning king' was my last choice; I went 'traditionalist' because he was more likely to 'honor my ancient treaty' and give me my troops.
Yeah. Leliana basically says that the Chantry is considering an Exalted March because everybody is looking at Kirkwall and a revolt there could cause a revolt everywhere else.
But I think that's tied to Sebastian's DLC so I guess it could have easily been missed.
Kind of silly with it being a pretty important plot point.
Yes this is where I thought Bioware took their Day 1 DLC shenanigans too fucking far. Sebastian wasn't himself that big a deal, but his story tied very closely into the main plot, and the fact people could miss it is inexcusable. This is about where I started to sour on EA's Bioware and one of the reasons ME3 was the first Bioware game I didn't pre-order or buy day 1.
Hmmmmm, I just read a bit of the ESRB summary. And I got to say, it looks like the sex scenes will be a bit more....graphic than previous installments. Not that I'm against it, I'd like some ME1 love making scenes, and less ugly underwear scenes. Add in some good conversation, and I'll be swooning in my chair.
Hmmmmm, I just read a bit of the ESRB summary. And I got to say, it looks like the sex scenes will be a bit more....graphic than previous installments. Not that I'm against it, I'd like some ME1 love making scenes, and less ugly underwear scenes. Add in some good conversation, and I'll be swooning in my chair.
Here is the description, FYI:
Rating Summary: This is a role-playing game in which players assume the role of a warrior battling evil forces in different dimensions. Characters use swords, axes, hammers, and magic attacks to kill fantastical creatures (e.g., demons, monsters, dwarfs) and humans in melee-style combat. Cutscenes sometimes depict characters impaled or getting their throats slit. Violent sequences are often highlighted by cries of pain, gurgling/gushing sounds, and large blood-splatter effects; blood remains on the ground in several environments. The game includes some sexual material: a female character briefly depicted in front of a man's torso (fellatio is implied); characters depicted topless or with exposed buttocks while lying in bed or after sex; some dialogue referencing sex/sexuality (e.g., “'I will bring myself sexual pleasure later, while thinking about this with great respect'” and “The way your t*ts bounce when I pin your arms and take you on the side of the bed…”). The words “f**k,” “sh*t,” and “a*shole” appear in dialogue.
-ESRB
Hmmmmm, I just read a bit of the ESRB summary. And I got to say, it looks like the sex scenes will be a bit more....graphic than previous installments. Not that I'm against it, I'd like some ME1 love making scenes, and less ugly underwear scenes. Add in some good conversation, and I'll be swooning in my chair.
Here is the description, FYI:
Rating Summary: This is a role-playing game in which players assume the role of a warrior battling evil forces in different dimensions. Characters use swords, axes, hammers, and magic attacks to kill fantastical creatures (e.g., demons, monsters, dwarfs) and humans in melee-style combat. Cutscenes sometimes depict characters impaled or getting their throats slit. Violent sequences are often highlighted by cries of pain, gurgling/gushing sounds, and large blood-splatter effects; blood remains on the ground in several environments. The game includes some sexual material: a female character briefly depicted in front of a man's torso (fellatio is implied); characters depicted topless or with exposed buttocks while lying in bed or after sex; some dialogue referencing sex/sexuality (e.g., “'I will bring myself sexual pleasure later, while thinking about this with great respect'” and “The way your t*ts bounce when I pin your arms and take you on the side of the bed…”). The words “f**k,” “sh*t,” and “a*shole” appear in dialogue.
-ESRB
Bioware, you shoulda stuck with the underwear dances.
...well maybe not. We'll seeeee
The clothed weirdness from the previous ME and DA games is so bad. I doubt anything they do now could be worse than that.
I really liked the sequences from ME1, they had some good cheesy spaceporn dialogue ("You haven't had the pleasure of serving under me yet, lieutenant") and they faded to black before it got obscene but it wasn't clearly sex-with-underwear. If it wasn't for the achievement blip in the middle of it they would have hit the tone perfectly.
Then Fox News went bananas and DAO regressed hard.
Some of those sentences seem out of place for BioWare. Like, they've always done subtle sexy-time. Some of those sentences? Not so subtle.
Obviously you never traveled with Isabela.
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They could also be ancillary things, such as the miscellaneous "love letters" that were present in Origins
Come to think of it, Origins also had a scene of implied fellatio as well
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So I'm reading through the Masked Empire and I have to say, yeah...I'm really enjoying it.
Though I have to ask a question and this is because I'm more of a Sci-Fi person than a Fantasy guy. Is there some kind of requirement that all nobility in fantasy settings be like huge, murderous dickbags? Because that seems to be the case.
So I'm reading through the Masked Empire and I have to say, yeah...I'm really enjoying it.
Though I have to ask a question and this is because I'm more of a Sci-Fi person than a Fantasy guy. Is there some kind of requirement that all nobility in fantasy settings be like huge, murderous dickbags? Because that seems to be the case.
It's historically accurate, yeah. Friendly nobles are the exception, not the rule.
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Well, you can drop him onto a knife.
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You know what would be kind of funny. If you leave Anders alive, then he ends up getting captured and tried by the Inquistion.
Anders(Head on chopping block): "Why hello there, Varric."
Varric: "Anders, hey. Man, you really have a habit of getting yourself into these situations."
Anders: "Well, you know how it goes."
I find Sebastian way more obnoxious than Anders.
But you know...Anders killed my homie. And I guess 100s of other people.
Let Anders live > Sebastian declares war on Hawke > Tell Anders to fight for the Templars > Murder Anders to death
Without knowing what actually happens, you could make a decent argument for supporting the Mages. After all, I was more interested in fighting for Mages in all of Thedas rather than the specific people in one single city in the Free Marches.
By then if everyone was smart they'd already be on the lamb.
Think it's also laid out that a successful mage rebellion in Kirkwall will cause Circles everywhere to revolt, too, no? It's implied that the rebel Mage movement extends far beyond Kirkwall, so if some or all the other Circles rebel, then Kirkwall just has to deal with its own Templars.
(spoilers for post-DA2, pre-DA:I lore from books and stuff)
But I think that's tied to Sebastian's DLC so I guess it could have easily been missed.
Kind of silly with it being a pretty important plot point.
Yea, I'm pretty sure my Hawke could take on an army of any size by himself. 2H warrior in that game was like if a giant human size blender was mixed with a Vanguard from ME.
Which is to say it was a completely unstoppable killing machine.
And I think people who claim that supporting the Templars is the obvious thing to do aren't really taking Hawke's backstory into account. Hawke's dad was an apostate, his sister is/was an apostate, and Hawke herself could be an apostate. And Hawke's dad tasked Hawke with keeping their family out of the clutches of the Templars before he died. So... the default state of Hawke ought to be extremely anti-Templar.
Carver is an asshole, though.
Well yeah, the whole shit that went down at the Tower in Fereldan in DA:O was a revolt gone horribly wrong.
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"I recommend awkward gifts." was fucking hilarious.
See, here's the thing ... my first play through, I skipped the wiki, and was running a city elf.
I didn't know that I got troops of some kind regardless of my choices; I agonized about it.
'Cunning king' was my last choice; I went 'traditionalist' because he was more likely to 'honor my ancient treaty' and give me my troops.
"Fuck the poor."
Yes this is where I thought Bioware took their Day 1 DLC shenanigans too fucking far. Sebastian wasn't himself that big a deal, but his story tied very closely into the main plot, and the fact people could miss it is inexcusable. This is about where I started to sour on EA's Bioware and one of the reasons ME3 was the first Bioware game I didn't pre-order or buy day 1.
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Here is the description, FYI:
-ESRB
hahahahaha oh
...well maybe not. We'll seeeee
I really liked the sequences from ME1, they had some good cheesy spaceporn dialogue ("You haven't had the pleasure of serving under me yet, lieutenant") and they faded to black before it got obscene but it wasn't clearly sex-with-underwear. If it wasn't for the achievement blip in the middle of it they would have hit the tone perfectly.
Then Fox News went bananas and DAO regressed hard.
Oh yes, Mass Effect the Alien Porn Simulator. Those were fun times.
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Obviously you never traveled with Isabela.
Come to think of it, Origins also had a scene of implied fellatio as well
Though I have to ask a question and this is because I'm more of a Sci-Fi person than a Fantasy guy. Is there some kind of requirement that all nobility in fantasy settings be like huge, murderous dickbags? Because that seems to be the case.
It's historically accurate, yeah. Friendly nobles are the exception, not the rule.
Good. Adults talk about sex, so I welcome it.