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The Ferguson Protests

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    B:L wrote: »
    Which is why it's all the more jarring when I go back to the super white, conservative village where my parents live.
    I thought the whole convservative thing was north/south

    But according to twitter, it's east/west?


    ha ha, Portland appears to be more racist than Seattle

    and Idaho's definitely pretty racist

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    LockoutLockout I am still searching Registered User regular
    Wyvern wrote: »
    Lockout wrote: »
    Wyvern wrote: »
    snip snap

    You're comparing running into crazy rhetoric on extremist parts of tumblr and "all PIV is rape" radfem blogs to the sort of bigoted shit you see from people in real life, out in the world. People aren't normally going to run into the former unless they go mining for it online (or visit /r/TumblrInAction) whereas you can walk outside and run into the latter

    And if someone refuses to listen to reason after encountering "SJWs" on the internet, chances are they were never going to come around anyway
    First of all, I'm not in any way comparing the "plight" of people who are annoyed by discussions of privilege to real-life bigotry. I'm talking purely in terms of analyzing how the general level of discourse re: privilege came to be at the level it's at, how it could hypothetically be more constructive, and why changing the term we used (which someone was suggesting earlier) would do absolutely nothing.

    Second, you don't need to go anywhere near that level of extremist environment to see shades of these kinds of attitudes. Both sides of it tend to crop up in some capacity anywhere the topic is discussed, even here on the PA forums. Well, not "die cis scum"; I've never actually seen anyone say that unironically in real life.

    Third, some people (maybe even most) really do turn out to be completely hopeless, but I don't doubt that there are also a lot of uneducated fence-sitters who end up driven the wrong way by circumstance. Didn't Gabe himself have a big post on the front page a while back about this exact thing, where he had a mutually antagonistic relationship with trans activists for a while and then later changed his understanding?

    I guess I don't understand how reasonable people can be expected to police the rhetoric of the "die cis scum" type then

    there's always going to be an angry response to inequality that will in turn anger those who perpetuate that inequality. it sucks that hearts are hardened and people are driven the wrong way because of that, but reining in the undiplomatic people in the age of the internet is impossible

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Paladin wrote: »
    B:L wrote: »
    Which is why it's all the more jarring when I go back to the super white, conservative village where my parents live.
    I thought the whole convservative thing was north/south

    But according to twitter, it's east/west?


    This is the population distribution of the US by district:

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    Can't be racist if nobody lives there!

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    so that's like the cameras they use to film the dead bodies after no witnesses see what happens, right?

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    I have a suspicion that somebody above the mayor basically told him that his police force is going to wear body cameras from now on

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Reuters: Missouri police sued for $40 million over actions in Ferguson protests
    A group of people caught up in unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, after a white officer killed a black teenager, sued local officials on Thursday, alleging civil rights violations through arrests and police assaults with rubber bullets and tear gas.

    The suit, filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Missouri, says law enforcement met a broad public outcry over the Aug. 9 killing of 18-year-old Michael Brown with "militaristic displays of force and weaponry," (and) engaged U.S. citizens "as if they were war combatants."

    The lawsuit seeks a total of $40 million on behalf of six plaintiffs, including a 17-year-old boy who was with his mother in a fast-food restaurant when they were arrested. Each of the plaintiffs was caught up in interactions with police over a period from Aug. 11 to 13, the suit allege.

    Named as defendants are the city of Ferguson, St. Louis County, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson, St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Delmar, Ferguson police officer Justin Cosmo, and other unnamed police officers from Ferguson and St. Louis County.

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    VivixenneVivixenne Remember your training, and we'll get through this just fine. Registered User regular
    this is going to sound cynical of me but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the way forward is a lawsuit

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    KadithKadith Registered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    B:L wrote: »
    Which is why it's all the more jarring when I go back to the super white, conservative village where my parents live.
    I thought the whole convservative thing was north/south

    But according to twitter, it's east/west?


    This is the population distribution of the US by district:

    800px-usa-2000-population-density.gif

    Can't be racist if nobody lives there!

    That one red spot in NM

    is a town of ~6000

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    Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    Kadith wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    B:L wrote: »
    Which is why it's all the more jarring when I go back to the super white, conservative village where my parents live.
    I thought the whole convservative thing was north/south

    But according to twitter, it's east/west?


    This is the population distribution of the US by district:

    800px-usa-2000-population-density.gif

    Can't be racist if nobody lives there!

    That one red spot in NM

    is a town of ~6000

    Red?

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    Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    I hope we see justice and change.

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    DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    Most like you'll see a ruling that reinforces the status quo.

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Paladin wrote: »
    B:L wrote: »
    Which is why it's all the more jarring when I go back to the super white, conservative village where my parents live.
    I thought the whole convservative thing was north/south

    But according to twitter, it's east/west?


    This is the population distribution of the US by district:

    800px-usa-2000-population-density.gif

    It's actually pretty indicative of how (comparatively) good the Northeast is about these things that the strip of people from Maryland to (Southern) Maine aren't red despite how densely populated that area is.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    And oh god our evil clown overlords whyyy

    Motherfucking miracles.

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »

    "the irish were persecuted too, ya know"

    lol

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    There was a thing not so long ago where someone was trying to demand one of the Game Grumps to out themself under the pretense that it's going to help young LGBT folk that watch their show

    It was some tremendous mistreatment of said Grump - and is also a reminder that nobody is responsible for representing any minority group they belong to.

    Yeeaaaah.

    I mean, it's awesome if/when someone in that position uses their popularity to help raise awareness on issues.

    But doing that also makes you a huge target. Some more than others.

    For some people it's jut not worth it.

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    curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    maryland is

    reliably blue

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    balerbowerbalerbower Registered User regular
    "stop and frisk shouldn't be a problem if you've got nothing to hide"

    *smug face*

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    DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    That area is where Cathy Brennan is from. It's unholy.

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    ArchangleArchangle Registered User regular
    Also Florida is very blue...

    ...because no-one in Florida can work out how to use a computer.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    That area is where Cathy Brennan is from. It's unholy.

    most can only aspire to the same level of human filth as her

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    EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Archangle wrote: »
    Also Florida is very blue...

    ...because no-one in Florida can work out how to use a computer.

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    Florida is the largest mass media and internet consumption region in the united states.

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    UbikUbik oh pete, that's later. maybe we'll be dead by then Registered User regular
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    this is going to sound cynical of me but it doesn't surprise me in the slightest that the way forward is a lawsuit

    i may be biased but lawsuits are the solution to all life's problems

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    ArchangleArchangle Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    Archangle wrote: »
    Also Florida is very blue...

    ...because no-one in Florida can work out how to use a computer.

    Thank you, thank you... I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip!

    Florida is the largest mass media and internet consumption region in the united states.
    ...because everyone in Florida is too busy downloading porn.
    Happy?

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    DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    That area is where Cathy Brennan is from. It's unholy.

    most can only aspire to the same level of human filth as her

    I don't even understand her

    She is fucking hate and bitterness personified.

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    EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Archangle wrote: »
    Enc wrote: »
    Archangle wrote: »
    Also Florida is very blue...

    ...because no-one in Florida can work out how to use a computer.

    Thank you, thank you... I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip!

    Florida is the largest mass media and internet consumption region in the united states.
    ...because everyone in Florida is too busy downloading porn.
    Happy?

    99% of all such downloads come from the Villages. Attempt no visitation there.

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    That area is where Cathy Brennan is from. It's unholy.

    most can only aspire to the same level of human filth as her

    I don't even understand her

    She is fucking hate and bitterness personified.

    rumor has it that it started when a trans lady wouldn't get with her

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    DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    Whaaaaat

    Are you serious

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Like I said, totally a rumor

    who knows, ma'am

    who knows

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    I am becoming increasingly happy I have no idea who that person is

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    SLyM wrote: »
    I am becoming increasingly happy I have no idea who that person is

    a major TERF activist that makes it a habit of outing and/or harassing trans women that enter her sights, as well be a major supplier of transphobic rhetoric

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Dubh wrote: »
    SLyM wrote: »
    I am becoming increasingly happy I have no idea who that person is

    a major TERF activist that makes it a habit of outing and/or harassing trans women that enter her sights, as well be a major supplier of transphobic rhetoric

    I was happy a minute ago

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    DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    SLyM wrote: »
    I am becoming increasingly happy I have no idea who that person is

    a major TERF activist that makes it a habit of outing and/or harassing trans women that enter her sights, as well be a major supplier of transphobic rhetoric

    I was happy a minute ago

    it's a name trans women need to know because there is a less than zero chance she'll decide to make any of us a target

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited August 2014
    anybody else thinking about this today?

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    DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
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    DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    Page won't load. That's Emmet Till, isn't it?

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    The Pacific Justice Institute (PJI) is the ex-gay organization that stirred up the right wing world by claiming that a trans kid (whom we will refer to as Jane Doe, for reasons of privacy) in Colorado was harassing cisgender girls in the restrooms. Right wing media outlets jumped at the story without conducting any fact-checking, prompting members of the right wing community to call for the death of the trans kid.[18]

    Cathy Brennan's Gender Identity Watch site jumped in to help the PJI attack the trans teen.

    The Pacific Justice Institute claims that a male student, NAME CENSORED, who claims to be transgender, has allegedly harassed female students in the girls room at Florence High School.[19]

    Even after Brennan learned that the teen was on suicide watch,[20] she has left the teen's real name on her blog as well as updating it recently.

    Welp

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    imdointhisimdointhis I should actually stop doin' this. Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
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    LockoutLockout I am still searching Registered User regular
    Dubh wrote: »
    Dubh wrote: »
    SLyM wrote: »
    I am becoming increasingly happy I have no idea who that person is

    a major TERF activist that makes it a habit of outing and/or harassing trans women that enter her sights, as well be a major supplier of transphobic rhetoric

    I was happy a minute ago

    it's a name trans women need to know because there is a less than zero chance she'll decide to make any of us a target

    Thank you

    It makes sense that there's people like this given the world we live in, but I hadn't fully realized

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