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Women, basketball, hos and radio hosts

CaswynbenCaswynben Registered User
edited April 2007 in Debate and/or Discourse
Recently, a radio personality, Don Imus, made some disparaging comments about the Womens basketball team at Rutger's university. Those that didn't watch should know that this women's team made it to the NCAA finals for the first time ever. Don Imus had this to say about them on his show :
Don Imus wrote:
That's some nappy-headed hos there, I'm going to tell you that now (laughing). Man, that's some ... whoo ..
What was he thinking? Who knows. The dude was suspended from his show and has been profusely apologizing to anyone that will listen, probably being pushed by his higher ups to rectify this situation, lest he lose his job. What I would like to talk about here is how the Rutger's team responded to the man's statements.
Now, every single day, the coaches, ESPN, the players, hell, Charles Barkley are all weighing in on this issue. They have held several press conferences, a face meeting with the radio personality, supports groups. Quotes like these have been floating around the internet :
We were stripped of this moment by the degrading comments made by Mr. Imus last Wednesday. We were insulted and, yes, we were angry.
"We have all been physically, mentally and emotionally spent. But we also understood a long time ago that no one can make you feel inferior unless you allow them … that we can't let other people steal our joy."
Dan Imus had two of his advertisers pull out
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/04/11/ap3601305.html

All I have to say about this is, why? While I find Mr. Imus' comments to be offensive and stupid, why do we blow up what he said to this kind of proportions? These girls are at the top of their game, and they let a jackass like this bring them down. Hell, they made demands of this guy. If he wants to say something stupid, sexist and racist, let him. That is his opinion and doesn't effect your accomplishments. I would understand if maybe this was their coach, but this is a complete stranger.
Why do we associate so much harm with what amount to only words?
Don Imus isn't the first dude to say something dumb on the radio, why is this one being given so much attention?
How much is too much? The guy has apologized, when will he be able to get back to his life as a radio comedian.
Are these girls perhaps playing the victim a little too much?

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  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Ok, I'm pleading ignorance.

    Nappy has always meant "dirty, unwashed" and "ho" has always been a shortened/slang form of "whore" to me.

    Is there some racist conotation that I've missed in my cultural education?



    Anyway, my stance is if you don't like what he has to say, don't listen. Racism/sexism/whateverism runs rampant in our media/entertainment all the time and no one makes a big stink about it. I have to admit I've never listened to Imus ever in my life. But I'm just not exactly sure why this guy has to be nailed to the cross when a thousand others are doing the same thing every day.

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  • RoundBoyRoundBoy Registered User
    edited April 2007
    Its not a matter if Imus is a dick or not... the 'real' crux of the matter is Sharpton calling for heads, and CBS offering heads to be cleaved.

    I offer this:

    Instead of focusing on a stupid joking comment, how about Mr. Sharpton and other black 'leaders' come and address the violence in the black community at large?

    For example, Philadelphia is well on the way to passing records in murders city wide, with 108 so far. In fact, at a memorial vigil for someone shot and killed on easter sunday, to groups of girls started shooting at each other, and some unrelated person was shot in the back.

    But I'm sure an old radio dinosaur like Imus is a much better target for dumb comments made,one of many that can also be found on popular rap albums.

    I would call Sharpton, but, I'm a white guy.. He doesn't take my calls. :sad panda:

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Gooey wrote: »
    Ok, I'm pleading ignorance.

    Nappy has always meant "dirty, unwashed" and "ho" has always been a shortened/slang form of "whore" to me.

    Is there some racist conotation that I've missed in my cultural education?



    Anyway, my stance is if you don't like what he has to say, don't listen. Racism/sexism/whateverism runs rampant in our media/entertainment all the time and no one makes a big stink about it. I have to admit I've never listened to Imus ever in my life. But I'm just not exactly sure why this guy has to be nailed to the cross when a thousand others are doing the same thing every day.


    I got you covered.

    "nappy (adj.)
    "downy," 1499, from nap (n.). Meaning "fuzzy, kinky," used in colloquial or derogatory ref. to the hair of black people, is from 1950." - Online Etymology Dictionary

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Trevor wrote: »
    Edit: But wait, there's more!
    japan wrote: »

    Boom. There's the difference. If what you say is going to be transmitted to a national audience, it would make sense to make sure your statements aren't going to offend a significant proportion of that audience. Particularly if it's a medium that isn't concerned with making political statements like sports journalism.

    People listen to him to hear about sports. The broadcaster makes money by targetting ads to that audience. If the person you employ to retain that audience starts reducing it instead then they've become a liability (the excessive apologising and symbolic hauling over hot coals is intended to be "damage control"). People aren't going to listen to a broadcaster that insults them.

    People tune in to hear about sports? Correct me if I'm wrong, I thought his radio show as just him blathering into a microphone for a couple hours (I even checking Wikipedia and Google News to make sure). Seems to me like his show is his opinion, so I think the people tuning into his show for sports highlights are about as misguided as an old man who has no filter between his mind and his mouth.

    Oops, sorry. The coverage I've read of this left me with the impression that he was a sports broadcaster, if this isn't the case then disregard.

  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Trevor wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    Ok, I'm pleading ignorance.

    Nappy has always meant "dirty, unwashed" and "ho" has always been a shortened/slang form of "whore" to me.

    Is there some racist conotation that I've missed in my cultural education?



    Anyway, my stance is if you don't like what he has to say, don't listen. Racism/sexism/whateverism runs rampant in our media/entertainment all the time and no one makes a big stink about it. I have to admit I've never listened to Imus ever in my life. But I'm just not exactly sure why this guy has to be nailed to the cross when a thousand others are doing the same thing every day.


    I got you covered.

    "nappy (adj.)
    "downy," 1499, from nap (n.). Meaning "fuzzy, kinky," used in colloquial or derogatory ref. to the hair of black people, is from 1950." - Online Etymology Dictionary

    Hmm. Well I can honestly say that I've never heard that this is a racist word ever in my life. Come to think of it, I've used it a lot (with my personal definition). Someone please tell me I'm not the only one.

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  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    But I'm sure an old radio dinosaur like Imus is a much better target for dumb comments made, one of many that can also be found on popular rap albums.

    Comments can vary in offensiveness based on who says them and in what context. A young black rapper talking about random "nappy headed hos" is totally different than an old white guy calling specific black women "nappy headed hos."

  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Gooey wrote: »
    Hmm. Well I can honestly say that I've never heard that this is a racist word ever in my life. Come to think of it, I've used it a lot (with my personal definition). Someone please tell me I'm not the only one.

    It's not an inherently racist word. It just becomes so when used in certain contexts.

  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Gooey wrote: »
    Hmm. Well I can honestly say that I've never heard that this is a racist word ever in my life. Come to think of it, I've used it a lot (with my personal definition). Someone please tell me I'm not the only one.

    Yeah, I wouldn't worry about being accidentally racist. I think it's one of those things that backwards racists started using when they ran out of other things to call black people 50 years ago.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Don Imus broadcasts from WFAN and is syndicated to other markets. WFAN is primarily sports talk radio.

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  • RoundBoyRoundBoy Registered User
    edited April 2007
    mcdermott wrote: »
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    But I'm sure an old radio dinosaur like Imus is a much better target for dumb comments made, one of many that can also be found on popular rap albums.

    Comments can vary in offensiveness based on who says them and in what context. A young black rapper talking about random "nappy headed hos" is totally different than an old white guy calling specific black women "nappy headed hos."

    Part of the problem is attributing 'Nappy' and 'ho's' to just black women .. whereas its not the case at all. As said above, these words are not racist in themselves, but only in context.

    Now what was the context? Are some of the players black? Is that why it is now a racial issue? What if he simply called the women 'dumb bitches' or even 'dumb hos' ? Would there still be a scandal?

    I can take this also in Sharption's comments during his radio show, when Imus said something along the lines of 'I just can win with you people'. Sharpton went right on the offensive asking what was meant by that.. when it simply identified a group of people.. not really just 'black people'

    I don't hate Sharpton, he is just an attention whore looking to ge as much media exposure as possible. Nor do I have specific empathy for Imus, as I can say I have *never* listened to his show. Ever. I am almost ready to blame CBS because while it could have been appropriate to suspend people for dumb ass remarks, they will probably end up firing him. This is just one more signpost on the spiral downwards this country is taking with religion, race, politics, sex,etc.. Its still a great country .. but we are starting to do it wrong.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Al Sharpton is definitely always ready to march or get on his soapbox. I think after the initial apology then market forces would have caused Imus to lose some sponsors, hit him in the wallet and that would be that until he offended some other group.

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  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    Now what was the context? Are some of the players black? Is that why it is now a racial issue? What if he simply called the women 'dumb bitches' or even 'dumb hos' ? Would there still be a scandal?

    Wow, you obviously don't watch much news because the segment of the show where the comment was made has been replayed about 17 million times. It's right below Anna Nicole.

    Yes, nearly all of the players are black. He was basically referring to how the team is a bunch of hardcore-looking black chicks with tattoos and what not.

  • GooeyGooey Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mcdermott wrote: »
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    Now what was the context? Are some of the players black? Is that why it is now a racial issue? What if he simply called the women 'dumb bitches' or even 'dumb hos' ? Would there still be a scandal?

    Wow, you obviously don't watch much news because the segment of the show where the comment was made has been replayed about 17 million times. It's right below Anna Nicole.

    Yes, nearly all of the players are black. He was basically referring to how the team is a bunch of hardcore-looking black chicks with tattoos and what not.

    But aren't they?

    I had a class in college with a few girls on the women's basketball team. They were/are nationaly ranked. The team was entirely black then and still is now as far as I know. When we were grouped together for group work, I had no problem admitting that they were "scary" and could easily kick my ass. They thought it was hysterical. I instantly became "that funny white guy."

    I guess it all depends on context.

    Can we please talk about Anna Nicole's baby now? That's what I really care about.

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  • Nova_CNova_C Sniff Sniff Snorf Beyond The WallRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I'm just plain old confused by most of this. I mean, I'd never heard of the guy before this and I'd never heard the term 'nappy' before this, but...come on:
    "It kind of scars us. We grew up in a world where racism exists, and there's nothing we can do to change that," said Matee Ajavon, a junior guard. "I think that this has scarred me for life."

    What the hell is that?

    And the guy he was interviewing, Bernard McGuirk, said, "Some hardcore hos", to which Imus responded with his 'nappy-headed' thing, and yet, only Imus is taking heat. Interesting. Because I see as much misogyny in McGuirk's statement but apparently it's not a problem so long as you don't use a slang term associated with racism against blacks.

    And Sharpton can kiss my ass. His kind of grandstanding and overreacting only encourages racism.

    Imus got suspended and is losing advertisers. His job is in jeopardy as is career in general. Sounds to me like he's getting what he deserves but the lynch mob goes on.

  • wookieeArmourwookieeArmour Registered User
    edited April 2007
    It was a pretty stupid comment, but I think this trend of forcing people to eat shit in front of al sharpton should end. Who the fuck is Al sharpton anyway? He's made negative comments toward jews in less enlightened times and didn't have to answer for it because he's black.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not a white revisionist. I think racism should be confronted and it's still a problem. But Al sharpton isn't really the man to do it.

    I don't understand how this can take up so much time in the news with things like the scandles in Washington and the war in Iraq going on. It makes me angry to see CNN spending so much time on it.

    Why the fuck should the presidential candidate weigh in on some asshole making a stupid racist comment?

    I also don't understand why the same people who go after such an easy target like this old ignorant white man don't try to tackle a real target like gangster rap and hip hop? Saying, "they should stop to" doesn't really mean anything. Take them to task. Have 50 cents on the Al sharpton show and tell him to stop using the word HO and the N word.

  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Trevor wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    Hmm. Well I can honestly say that I've never heard that this is a racist word ever in my life. Come to think of it, I've used it a lot (with my personal definition). Someone please tell me I'm not the only one.

    Yeah, I wouldn't worry about being accidentally racist. I think it's one of those things that backwards racists started using when they ran out of other things to call black people 50 years ago.

    I think I learned about it from The Craft.



    mcdermott wrote: »
    Comments can vary in offensiveness based on who says them and in what context. A young black rapper talking about random "nappy headed hos" is totally different than an old white guy calling specific black women "nappy headed hos."

    This is going to sound a little cliche, but it's okay when they do it.

  • wookieeArmourwookieeArmour Registered User
    edited April 2007
    It's not ok, even by their standards, they just don't have the balls to go after rap music.

    It's like with feminists and porn. Sex workers are easy targets to attack, but when it comes to the institutions that create the issues (the church, marriage) they shy away.

  • EinEin New Jersey, USARegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    As a student at Rutgers right now, I am just dropping in here to say that I think people are ridiculously blowing this out of proportion, and if anything, I have come to dislike Sharpton from this event. These are just my personal views on all of it.

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  • wookieeArmourwookieeArmour Registered User
    edited April 2007
    I think the more sharpton does this, when it's a really small issue like this, the less credibility he will have.

  • GanluanGanluan Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    They were discussing this on the radio this morning, and they were talking about Snoop Dogg's response in particular... I can't find it in an article online, but he basically said how it's different for him to call women "ho's", because "he's not some white man sitting up in a tower" or something to that effect.

    How is that any less racist? The whole thing becomes more and more divisive as it's blown up by people like Sharpton, and I'm amazed Jesse Jackson hasn't been shouting from the mountaintops yet.

    Wasn't there something a while ago where Oprah was saying how misogynistic and violent rap was becoming, and she got told that she was anti-black or something similar?

    What he said wasn't even funny and not very smart, but the witch hunt resulting from it is ridiculous. I was hoping the girls from Rutgers would have stood up to say "we accept his apology, and we don't let old shock jock's misguided jokes detract from our successes". Instead we hear how this scars them for life and has ruined the year... what the hell?

  • mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Nova_C wrote: »
    And the guy he was interviewing, Bernard McGuirk, said, "Some hardcore hos", to which Imus responded with his 'nappy-headed' thing, and yet, only Imus is taking heat. Interesting. Because I see as much misogyny in McGuirk's statement but apparently it's not a problem so long as you don't use a slang term associated with racism against blacks.

    McGuirk wasn't just "the guy he was interviewing," he's a producer on the show. He's apparently a regular, practically part of the cast. At which point it would make sense that Imus would catch more of the heat, because he's the frontman of the whole circus.

    Basically, Imus is the only one taking heat because nobody knows who the fuck McGuirk is.

  • RoundBoyRoundBoy Registered User
    edited April 2007
    To the student at Rutgers: it would be easy to say everyone is blowing it out of proportion, but when the women's team is on the news saying they are physically and mentally drained. I would imagine that losing the championship would have slightly more to do with it then Imus.

    To be honest, i haven't heard more then anything then the 5 second snippit of actual Imus comment. Was the comment made right after some "Those BLACK rutgers women" or was it made after "That Rutger's women's team" ?

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  • ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2007
    Half those girls were 18 years old.

    If I have a daughter some day and she is an accomplished athlete I don't want some jackass making misogenistic/racial remarks about her for a national audience while she is just a freshman in college.

    I really enjoy Imus, although I don't listen to him regularly - but what he said was really really beyond the acceptable limits. No amount of pushing blame onto the media or Al Sharpton changes the content of what he said. Public attention is what makes Imus a very rich man. You can't complain about it when it suddenly hurts his job prospects and cash flow instead of boosting them.

  • DraygoDraygo Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mcdermott wrote: »
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    But I'm sure an old radio dinosaur like Imus is a much better target for dumb comments made, one of many that can also be found on popular rap albums.

    Comments can vary in offensiveness based on who says them and in what context. A young black rapper talking about random "nappy headed hos" is totally different than an old white guy calling specific black women "nappy headed hos."

    I hereby declare that anyone non-white says "peanut" to a white guy is a racist and should lose their job. But if a white guy says peanut it is ok.

  • EinEin New Jersey, USARegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    To the student at Rutgers: it would be easy to say everyone is blowing it out of proportion, but when the women's team is on the news saying they are physically and mentally drained. I would imagine that losing the championship would have slightly more to do with it then Imus.

    So what? They don't have the mental fortitude to cope with somebody who I guarentee they've never heard of throwing a one-liner insult at them? If somebody called me a 'honky' or something, even if I was in an emotionally vulnerable state, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be scarred for life. It's the sort of thing you (I'd) laugh at for being so baroque.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    This is how Al Shaprton has turned racism into a goddamned joke in this country.

    You know why people don't take racism seriously anymore? It's crap like this.

  • ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2007
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    To the student at Rutgers: it would be easy to say everyone is blowing it out of proportion, but when the women's team is on the news saying they are physically and mentally drained. I would imagine that losing the championship would have slightly more to do with it then Imus.

    So what? They don't have the mental fortitude to cope with somebody who I guarentee they've never heard of throwing a one-liner insult at them? If somebody called me a 'honky' or something, even if I was in an emotionally vulnerable state, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be scarred for life. It's the sort of thing you (I'd) laugh at for being so baroque.

    You're kind of a useless fuckwit aren't you.

  • drinkinstoutdrinkinstout Registered User
    edited April 2007
    I'm curious how all this would have turned out if instead of an old white guy talking, an old black guy was talking on the radio... word for word, the same thing.

    It wouldn't have made the news right? He probably would have gotten a few laughs and definitly wouldn't lose his job. How can we be beaten repeatedly with the "treat eachother equal" ideal when it isn't even upheld by the people preaching it? Maybe the problem with racism in this country is that it is leaned too heavily upon as a crutch.

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  • ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2007
    This is how Al Shaprton has turned racism into a goddamned joke in this country.

    You know why people don't take racism seriously anymore? It's crap like this.

    Personally, I have no problem with establishing a social taboo against guys on the radio calling 18 year old women rough looking whores.

  • EinEin New Jersey, USARegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Shinto wrote: »
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    To the student at Rutgers: it would be easy to say everyone is blowing it out of proportion, but when the women's team is on the news saying they are physically and mentally drained. I would imagine that losing the championship would have slightly more to do with it then Imus.

    So what? They don't have the mental fortitude to cope with somebody who I guarentee they've never heard of throwing a one-liner insult at them? If somebody called me a 'honky' or something, even if I was in an emotionally vulnerable state, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be scarred for life. It's the sort of thing you (I'd) laugh at for being so baroque.

    You're kind of a useless fuckwit aren't you.

    Right back at ya, buddy!

    Perhaps you'd like to say something more useful.

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  • ShintoShinto __BANNED USERS
    edited April 2007
    Shinto wrote: »
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    To the student at Rutgers: it would be easy to say everyone is blowing it out of proportion, but when the women's team is on the news saying they are physically and mentally drained. I would imagine that losing the championship would have slightly more to do with it then Imus.

    So what? They don't have the mental fortitude to cope with somebody who I guarentee they've never heard of throwing a one-liner insult at them? If somebody called me a 'honky' or something, even if I was in an emotionally vulnerable state, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be scarred for life. It's the sort of thing you (I'd) laugh at for being so baroque.

    You're kind of a useless fuckwit aren't you.

    Right back at ya, buddy!

    Perhaps you'd like to say something more useful.

    Not really shithead. I think it's a service to mark jackasses like you.

  • ElkiElki hegemon globalSuper Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited April 2007
    Don Imus has referred to Gwen Ifill as a "cleaning lady," called Amelie Mauresmo "a big old lesbo," called Howard Kurtz a "beanie-wearing little Jewboy," said that "the gorilla special effects in Instinct" reminded him of "the starting line-up of the Knicks," called the Williams sisters "two booma-chucka, big-butted women" while his partner called Venus an "animal" and said that they would more likely be featured in National Geographic than in Playboy (and his said his comments weren't racist, "just zoological."), called an Indian men's doubles team "Gunga Din and Sambo," Contessa Brewer, a female newsreader, left the show because she couldn't handle his abuse, and Stern has said that loved to go around the NBC studio and calling black people the n-word.

    But let's be careful before we label him as a misogynist or a racist just because he called a team full of black girls "nappy headed hoes."

  • EinEin New Jersey, USARegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Thank you for the honorable public service of disagreeing with my opinion without any real basis or explaination.

    We've actually discussed this in the class I'm in at the moment and a majority of the students in this auditorium with me feel similarly. I can't say that speaks for Rutgers on the whole, but I'd say there's more important things to be worrying about than hurt feelings.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Shinto wrote: »
    This is how Al Shaprton has turned racism into a goddamned joke in this country.

    You know why people don't take racism seriously anymore? It's crap like this.

    Personally, I have no problem with establishing a social taboo against guys on the radio calling 18 year old women rough looking whores.

    Yes but wouldn't it be better to actually deal with real discrimination instead fo some stupid fuckwit on the radio? Guys like sharpton make issues out of stuff like this so many times that now when you say "racism" people thing it's piddly crap like this you're talking about. Thus they think it's kind of a joke instead of a real social issue. I'm sorry I feel bad for the girls. It was a mean-spirited insult and Imus is getting wha he deserves.

    However wouldn't it be better to talk about the underlying social issues around racism than knee jerk reactionism?

  • Manning'sEquationManning'sEquation Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Next time Chris Rock makes Whitey jokes I'll be sure to call the rainbow coalition since they do not want racism for anybody under any circumstance. They will protest for me. Am i rite?

  • ElkiElki hegemon globalSuper Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited April 2007
    RoundBoy wrote: »
    To the student at Rutgers: it would be easy to say everyone is blowing it out of proportion, but when the women's team is on the news saying they are physically and mentally drained. I would imagine that losing the championship would have slightly more to do with it then Imus.

    So what? They don't have the mental fortitude to cope with somebody who I guarentee they've never heard of throwing a one-liner insult at them? If somebody called me a 'honky' or something, even if I was in an emotionally vulnerable state, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be scarred for life. It's the sort of thing you (I'd) laugh at for being so baroque.

    I don't give a shit who the fuck he is, he shouldn't get paid for saying that shit on television. Fuck, he shouldn't say it even he wasn't getting paid. I never listened to him, and probably wouldn't have even if he wasn't a bigot, but it's unfuckingacceptable that he should be able to say this without consequences.

  • RoundBoyRoundBoy Registered User
    edited April 2007
    Elkamil wrote: »
    Don Imus has referred to Gwen Ifill as a "cleaning lady," called Amelie Mauresmo "a big old lesbo," called Howard Kurtz a "beanie-wearing little Jewboy," said that "the gorilla special effects in Instinct" reminded him of "the starting line-up of the Knicks," called the Williams sisters "two booma-chucka, big-butted women" while his partner called Venus an "animal" and said that they would more likely be featured in National Geographic than in Playboy (and his said his comments weren't racist, "just zoological."), called an Indian men's doubles team "Gunga Din and Sambo," Contessa Brewer, a female newsreader, left the show because she couldn't handle his abuse, and Stern has said that loved to go around the NBC studio and calling black people the n-word.

    But let's be careful before we label him as a misogynist or a racist just because he called a team full of black girls "nappy headed hoes."

    Never heard that before of Imus, since I never lsiten to him.. but.. where was all the outgrage at those times? Does it only count for black people? Sharpton got on his ass pretty quick i bet.

    What is so outrageous about the rutger's team that caused this level of outrage? I liken the black community to christian fundamentalists at this point, since most of those complaining never even heard his show, nor will they. They are just blanket copying the outgrage that the community leaders tell them to have., just like the janet jackson incident..

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  • VariableVariable Ted Hitler Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Next time Chris Rock makes Whitey jokes I'll be sure to call the rainbow coalition since they do not want racism for anybody under any circumstance. They will protest for me. Am i rite?

    entirely different.

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  • The Green Eyed MonsterThe Green Eyed Monster i blame hip hop Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Next time Chris Rock makes Whitey jokes I'll be sure to call the rainbow coalition since they do not want racism for anybody under any circumstance. They will protest for me. Am i rite?
    Tenor and context. I don't recall any incidence of Chris Rock ever targeting a specific group of amateur white athletes for ridicule based on their race alone. When he does, though, yeah you might have a point.

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  • VariableVariable Ted Hitler Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    RoundBoy wrote: »
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    Don Imus has referred to Gwen Ifill as a "cleaning lady," called Amelie Mauresmo "a big old lesbo," called Howard Kurtz a "beanie-wearing little Jewboy," said that "the gorilla special effects in Instinct" reminded him of "the starting line-up of the Knicks," called the Williams sisters "two booma-chucka, big-butted women" while his partner called Venus an "animal" and said that they would more likely be featured in National Geographic than in Playboy (and his said his comments weren't racist, "just zoological."), called an Indian men's doubles team "Gunga Din and Sambo," Contessa Brewer, a female newsreader, left the show because she couldn't handle his abuse, and Stern has said that loved to go around the NBC studio and calling black people the n-word.

    But let's be careful before we label him as a misogynist or a racist just because he called a team full of black girls "nappy headed hoes."

    Never heard that before of Imus, since I never lsiten to him.. but.. where was all the outgrage at those times? Does it only count for black people? Sharpton got on his ass pretty quick i bet.

    What is so outrageous about the rutger's team that caused this level of outrage? I liken the black community to christian fundamentalists at this point, since most of those complaining never even heard his show, nor will they. They are just blanket copying the outgrage that the community leaders tell them to have., just like the janet jackson incident..

    he has gotten in trouble before. And it's a damn shame there wasn't as big an outrage... maybe he could have been fired by now if there were a Jewish version of Al Sharpton. Someone to call him the fuck out.

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