I've been a huge fan of smash ever since N64, and I'm really pumped for this one. That being said, I just tried the demo and it somehow feels a bit... off. It seems to be an amazing game, but I am so used to smash on consoles that my hands itch for a gamecube controller. And part of me doesn't want to "spoil" the feel of a new smash by going through it on a tiny screen first. Now I'm thinking I might just wait for the Wii U version. 1-2 months doesn't seem quite as long as it used to! Maybe Nintendo will grab me in by revealing some super sweet cross-console interactions, but if it's just transferring profiles and miis and the like I think I'll pass.
I had the exact same opinion until I actually played the 3DS demo.
My point being that is a very fair opinion to have, especially if the demo doesn't do it for you
The controls definitely aren't perfect but you get used to them, it's still a lot of fun. I'm planning to exhaust this version to the fullest before the Wii U version comes out though because I don't expect I'll ever go back after that.
Yeah, absolutely. This isn't going to be the definitive version of Smash, but it is portable Smash and it's still very, very good.
I'm going to put the majority amount of time in on this one, just because I'm most likely to have my 3DS with me most of the time. But on Game Night when all my friends come over, you know we're gonna bust out the Wii U version, no matter how many people brought their 3DSes with them.
My 3DS has actually been lacking a pick up and play title. Most of what I own is more along the time lines of sit down and play for 45 minutes. Once I realized that, I was sold on a 3DS version.
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I am actually thinking all this time on the 3DS, which I'm handling pretty well, will make the Gamepad more feasible when the WiiU version hits. Same button layout and all.
Buuuuut I'll probably grab a Wii U pro controller anyway
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I never really realized how perfect the gamecube controller is for Smash until playing it on 3DS.
What is even the point of the Crash Bomb? It seems to do a pitiful amount of damage, is easy to shield before it goes off, and you can have it stuck back on you. It seems just awful (like the rest of Mega Man's specials, frankly).
First of all, you shut your filthy mouth, MegaMan's specials are great. You just have to use them in the right ways.
I think the point of Crash Bomb is to distract an opponent while you close in for a close-range attack or throw. When it lands your opponent has to either eat the hit and get flinched, or shield to protect against the blast. Either way it gives you a good opportunity to do some damage.
I find that the best time to use it is when your opponent is in the air, because then it is harder to dodge. It also makes a good alternative long range projectile when metal blade is unavailable.
Also, it sticks to the environment, so there are some tricky things you can do with it. I like to sometimes stick it to the edge of the stage while recovering - makes it tougher for opponents to edge guard me.
I'm looking forward to the customization controls, because it took quite a bit to adapt to the demo.
Thing is, I've no damn clue what I would change. I foresee a lot of trial and error in finding the perfect mix. I hope they took a nod from Kid Icarus in that regard and made it a whole training section so you can change the buttons and get instant feedback.
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On its own, the Crash Bomb doesn't seem that good. But you've also got the Metal Blade, the jab shots, and the Charge Shot to follow up on it, and the Metal Blade and Charge Shot in particular are pretty bad for shields. Throwing all three out in quick succession is a good way to score some kind of damage.
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I wonder if the other heavyweights got the same boost that Bowser did. I'm hoping DK, Dedede and Charizard aren't just glorified punching bags this time.
What is even the point of the Crash Bomb? It seems to do a pitiful amount of damage, is easy to shield before it goes off, and you can have it stuck back on you. It seems just awful (like the rest of Mega Man's specials, frankly).
First of all, you shut your filthy mouth, MegaMan's specials are great. You just have to use them in the right ways.
Then can you tell me how to use Leaf Shield?
I tried grabbing as suggested but... it didn't do any significant damage and doesn't last very long so you kinda have to just go for it as soon as you pop the shield so it's pretty predictable. More often than not it causes the CPU to die because it prevents them from using their up-b while simultaneously not protecting them from attacks.
What is even the point of the Crash Bomb? It seems to do a pitiful amount of damage, is easy to shield before it goes off, and you can have it stuck back on you. It seems just awful (like the rest of Mega Man's specials, frankly).
First of all, you shut your filthy mouth, MegaMan's specials are great. You just have to use them in the right ways.
Then can you tell me how to use Leaf Shield?
I tried grabbing as suggested but... it didn't do any significant damage and doesn't last very long so you kinda have to just go for it as soon as you pop the shield so it's pretty predictable. More often than not it causes the CPU to die because it prevents them from using their up-b while simultaneously not protecting them from attacks.
So the key thing to remember about Leaf Shield is that it effectively allows you to attack while rolling or dodging. Which is very unique and kind of great.
If you put up Leaf Shield and start rolling across the map, you're basically invincible for three seconds. Makes it really easy to close in for a throw. Hell, you can simply run up to a guy, shield, and throw, and you don't have to worry about him throwing you because the leaves will stop him.
I also like using it as an anti-juggle. If you get knocked up toward the top of the map, activate Leaf Shield and just dodge through any would be jugglers. You'll take no damage and they'll take a few hits from your leaves.
Another thing to keep in mind is that you can still pick up and throw items before and during Leaf Shield. This includes any Metal Blades lodged in the ground.
It's actually a really versatile move. The "shield" aspect is kind of a misnomer, as most of its applications are pretty aggressive / offensive.
The problem with Leaf Shield is that it disables every other attack you can do except grab. It doesn't protect you from standard attacks either, so it doesn't really make it easier to grab people. So it's basically just telegraphing to the opponent "hey I'm gonna come in and grab you now, and when I do you're gonna take a few extra percent damage, so look out!" I really don't understand why they made it disable your standard attacks.
This twitch tourney is fun to watch. Mac looks pretty fucking brutal, but the KO punch is kinda like a Falcon Punch in that you're rarely going to cleanly pull one off.
The problem with Leaf Shield is that it disables every other attack you can do except grab. It doesn't protect you from standard attacks either, so it doesn't really make it easier to grab people. So it's basically just telegraphing to the opponent "hey I'm gonna come in and grab you now, and when I do you're gonna take a few extra percent damage, so look out!" I really don't understand why they made it disable your standard attacks.
This is why I like to have a Metal Blade or other item on the ground or in my hand when I put Leaf Shield up. This gives me something to pick up and throw or drop, so I have more options and become more unpredictable.
You can also just roll back and forth like a human (er, robot) buzzsaw. It doesnt do a ton of damage but it's pretty disorienting, and you can transfer into a throw whenever you want.
One of my favorite things to do is get a Metal Blade in my hands and a Leaf Shield up, then jump above an opponent and use L to drop the Metal Blade on their heads. Between the blade and the leaves they take a good amount of damage and are frozen in place while you footstool or throw (if Leaf Shield is still going) or use an aerial or smash (if it isn't).
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DK isn't a king, he just lives out in the jungle with his banana horde and oocasionally gets harassed by armies of reptiles, living tiki totems and arctic wildlife. There is also the occasional plumber to deal with.
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I had the exact same opinion until I actually played the 3DS demo.
My point being that is a very fair opinion to have, especially if the demo doesn't do it for you
I'm going to put the majority amount of time in on this one, just because I'm most likely to have my 3DS with me most of the time. But on Game Night when all my friends come over, you know we're gonna bust out the Wii U version, no matter how many people brought their 3DSes with them.
Buuuuut I'll probably grab a Wii U pro controller anyway
First of all, you shut your filthy mouth, MegaMan's specials are great. You just have to use them in the right ways.
I think the point of Crash Bomb is to distract an opponent while you close in for a close-range attack or throw. When it lands your opponent has to either eat the hit and get flinched, or shield to protect against the blast. Either way it gives you a good opportunity to do some damage.
I find that the best time to use it is when your opponent is in the air, because then it is harder to dodge. It also makes a good alternative long range projectile when metal blade is unavailable.
Also, it sticks to the environment, so there are some tricky things you can do with it. I like to sometimes stick it to the edge of the stage while recovering - makes it tougher for opponents to edge guard me.
Thing is, I've no damn clue what I would change. I foresee a lot of trial and error in finding the perfect mix. I hope they took a nod from Kid Icarus in that regard and made it a whole training section so you can change the buttons and get instant feedback.
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Then can you tell me how to use Leaf Shield?
I tried grabbing as suggested but... it didn't do any significant damage and doesn't last very long so you kinda have to just go for it as soon as you pop the shield so it's pretty predictable. More often than not it causes the CPU to die because it prevents them from using their up-b while simultaneously not protecting them from attacks.
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So the key thing to remember about Leaf Shield is that it effectively allows you to attack while rolling or dodging. Which is very unique and kind of great.
If you put up Leaf Shield and start rolling across the map, you're basically invincible for three seconds. Makes it really easy to close in for a throw. Hell, you can simply run up to a guy, shield, and throw, and you don't have to worry about him throwing you because the leaves will stop him.
I also like using it as an anti-juggle. If you get knocked up toward the top of the map, activate Leaf Shield and just dodge through any would be jugglers. You'll take no damage and they'll take a few hits from your leaves.
Another thing to keep in mind is that you can still pick up and throw items before and during Leaf Shield. This includes any Metal Blades lodged in the ground.
It's actually a really versatile move. The "shield" aspect is kind of a misnomer, as most of its applications are pretty aggressive / offensive.
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This is why I like to have a Metal Blade or other item on the ground or in my hand when I put Leaf Shield up. This gives me something to pick up and throw or drop, so I have more options and become more unpredictable.
You can also just roll back and forth like a human (er, robot) buzzsaw. It doesnt do a ton of damage but it's pretty disorienting, and you can transfer into a throw whenever you want.
One of my favorite things to do is get a Metal Blade in my hands and a Leaf Shield up, then jump above an opponent and use L to drop the Metal Blade on their heads. Between the blade and the leaves they take a good amount of damage and are frozen in place while you footstool or throw (if Leaf Shield is still going) or use an aerial or smash (if it isn't).
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This is one of the better custom move lists Ive found.
Regarding Megs and his shields it looks like plant Barrier is slightly better for the grab and pummel strategy.
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