It's too bad all the alcoholic beverages I like are distilled.
Home brewing sounds like it'd be neat.
Depending on the state you can distill your own spirits for private consumption.
No. Your state may not have a law against it but distilling spirits without a permit is a federal felony, with a 5 year sentence. And the TTB has been getting a lot more aggressive about policing the law.
Does anyone here do any brewing and filter their beer? I have some questions.
I do pretty entry level home brews. 5 gallon batches with very basic filtering techniques. Cold crashing, gelatin, maybe irish moss in the boil.
Cool, I have some non beer questions for you.
Basically I've been making my own tonic, and it's pretty simple, but the difficulty comes when it comes to filter fines out of the boil.
The bark that makes the tonic crushes easily and crushes ridiculously fine. After I boil it I can filter it using coffee filters, but it takes over twenty filters to do a litre of concentrate I've tried muslin cloth and it immediately jams with sediment. I'm hoping beer filtration techniques might be able to increase the fine size of the bark and allow me to use coffee filters again, or if anyone knows a better / easier way. Do you have any advice regarding this?
Does anyone here do any brewing and filter their beer? I have some questions.
I do pretty entry level home brews. 5 gallon batches with very basic filtering techniques. Cold crashing, gelatin, maybe irish moss in the boil.
Cool, I have some non beer questions for you.
Basically I've been making my own tonic, and it's pretty simple, but the difficulty comes when it comes to filter fines out of the boil.
The bark that makes the tonic crushes easily and crushes ridiculously fine. After I boil it I can filter it using coffee filters, but it takes over twenty filters to do a litre of concentrate I've tried muslin cloth and it immediately jams with sediment. I'm hoping beer filtration techniques might be able to increase the fine size of the bark and allow me to use coffee filters again, or if anyone knows a better / easier way. Do you have any advice regarding this?
I'm not sure our homebrew filter techniques will work for that.
Most of homebrew filtering takes place in the boil (Irish moss) or cold crashing, which is just chilling it to get all the crap to settle and then siphoning the beer out.
I don't know if tonic can be cold crashed.
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Does anyone here do any brewing and filter their beer? I have some questions.
I do pretty entry level home brews. 5 gallon batches with very basic filtering techniques. Cold crashing, gelatin, maybe irish moss in the boil.
Cool, I have some non beer questions for you.
Basically I've been making my own tonic, and it's pretty simple, but the difficulty comes when it comes to filter fines out of the boil.
The bark that makes the tonic crushes easily and crushes ridiculously fine. After I boil it I can filter it using coffee filters, but it takes over twenty filters to do a litre of concentrate I've tried muslin cloth and it immediately jams with sediment. I'm hoping beer filtration techniques might be able to increase the fine size of the bark and allow me to use coffee filters again, or if anyone knows a better / easier way. Do you have any advice regarding this?
Have you tried using a French press?
The only other thing I can think of is to let your batch sit long enough for the fines and sediment to settle to the bottom, and then siphon the tonic off the top of it, trying not to disturb the sediment.
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Does anyone here do any brewing and filter their beer? I have some questions.
I do pretty entry level home brews. 5 gallon batches with very basic filtering techniques. Cold crashing, gelatin, maybe irish moss in the boil.
Cool, I have some non beer questions for you.
Basically I've been making my own tonic, and it's pretty simple, but the difficulty comes when it comes to filter fines out of the boil.
The bark that makes the tonic crushes easily and crushes ridiculously fine. After I boil it I can filter it using coffee filters, but it takes over twenty filters to do a litre of concentrate I've tried muslin cloth and it immediately jams with sediment. I'm hoping beer filtration techniques might be able to increase the fine size of the bark and allow me to use coffee filters again, or if anyone knows a better / easier way. Do you have any advice regarding this?
Cold crashing, along with gelatin should reduce the amount of bark particulate circulating in the tonic before you transfer it into the next container (should make it easier to filter through a coffee filter (you may have seen this http://www.alcademics.com/2012/05/homemade-tonic-water-filtration.html).
Getting the liquid cold for a couple days should help the solids settle out (the beer cold crash is supposed to be getting it down to around 33F for around 48 hours). Hitting it with a pasteurized gelatin solution (I've been using around 1/2 tsp of plain gelatin powder in 1/4 cup filtered water) should pick up some of the loose stuff still floating around and keeping it cold will get the gelatin to settle out and out of the way for when you transfer the tonic out.
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I read that link Buttons, but to be honest, I have no idea how that system works.
How I did it yesterday was let it settle for a day and carefully ladelled off the top liquid and I got about half of it very clear and used minimal filters for that half.
The second half I first dropped a muslin cloth on top of the bowl so anything I was scooping had passed through it but was too close to the settling material and stirred up too much sediment. I ladelled off about half of that (and comparatively it was not very clean compared to the first lot) before I just got too close to the sediment and then couldn't ladel anymore so I threw the rest in muslin cloth along with the fines and squeezed the rest through. That last part was super sedimenty though and it took a lot of filtering for me to clean up that part.
I'm hoping for something that can really clump everything together to allow for less stir up when I interact with it.
A large volume french press may work ok? I could put it in, let it settle, then press it slowly and hopefully keep the majority of the sediment down if I pour it off again, but I'm not sure if it will work well or not.
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Actually reading that again link again, I understand what he did.
I'm not sure if that would work particularly better though.
Reading his recipe, he is talking about filtering only half a cup of liquid. I'm around the four cup stage. I'm not sure if his setup is really scalable that scalable.
Aeropresses I've found have their own issues in that once the clog, they just push liquid to the side and bypass the filter and no actual filtration takes place.
getting success with just letting it sit around to settle out makes me think you'd see good results with putting it in the fridge for a couple days before decanting. If you can find out whether the bark powder is positively or negatively charged, you can get the proper clarifying agent to bind with and drop more of it from the solution.
It's too bad all the alcoholic beverages I like are distilled.
Home brewing sounds like it'd be neat.
Depending on the state you can distill your own spirits for private consumption.
No. Your state may not have a law against it but distilling spirits without a permit is a federal felony, with a 5 year sentence. And the TTB has been getting a lot more aggressive about policing the law.
Good to know. I'm going to pass that on to my buddy, he has been getting into the whole concept of distilling pretty hard. He even said he looked it up. Guess not!
I read that link Buttons, but to be honest, I have no idea how that system works.
How I did it yesterday was let it settle for a day and carefully ladelled off the top liquid and I got about half of it very clear and used minimal filters for that half.
The second half I first dropped a muslin cloth on top of the bowl so anything I was scooping had passed through it but was too close to the settling material and stirred up too much sediment. I ladelled off about half of that (and comparatively it was not very clean compared to the first lot) before I just got too close to the sediment and then couldn't ladel anymore so I threw the rest in muslin cloth along with the fines and squeezed the rest through. That last part was super sedimenty though and it took a lot of filtering for me to clean up that part.
I'm hoping for something that can really clump everything together to allow for less stir up when I interact with it.
A large volume french press may work ok? I could put it in, let it settle, then press it slowly and hopefully keep the majority of the sediment down if I pour it off again, but I'm not sure if it will work well or not.
I think the first thing you should do is get yourself an auto-siphon and length of tubing and use that instead of a ladle. You could try lining a fine mesh filter with a double layer of cheesecloth too and siphoning through that into another vessel.
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I mentioned this shit in another thread and now I can't stop thinking about it and I know I'm never gunna find another bottle of it ever again and it is killing me.
Fuck it, I'm hitting the bottle shops on the way home.
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MillerCoors bought Terrapin (GA).
The press release was cookie-cutter as hell, so Beervana created this for easy use in the future and it's so spot-on it hurts:
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Introducing the Buy-out
[ _______________ ] announced today an agreement to acquire a majority interest in [ ________ ]-based [ __________ ] Brewing Company.
Expression of Delight in Finding the Perfect Buyer
“Bringing [ __________ ] on allowed us to get to know each other better and realize the incredible potential of becoming a majority-owned partner with [ __________ ] ,” said [ __________ ] , co-founder and vice president of brewing development. “With [ __________ ] 's dedication to helping us grow and their passion for creating high-quality craft beers, we knew it would be the perfect partnership. We look forward to continuing to create innovative beers to share with beer lovers nationwide.”
Anodyne History of the Acquired Brewery
[ ________ ] founders [ ________ ] and [ ________ ] set out in 20## to craft beers unlike any that were available in the [ ________ ] at the time, choosing [ ________ ] as home base because of its distinctive culture and shared appreciation for [ ________ ]. The 84,000-square-foot brewery and 100-barrel brew house creates year-round and seasonal beers including [ ________ ], [ ________ ], and [ ________ ].
Expression of Delight in Finding Perfect Craft Brewery to Buy
“The team at [ ________ ] is so passionate and committed to brewing such terrific beers that we are thrilled to welcome them deeper into the [ ________ ] family,” said [ ________ ], president and CEO of [ ________ ] . “As owners, our job is to work collaboratively with their team to support their continued success with their innovative, award-winning beers that complement our portfolio perfectly.”
Concluding Corporate Statements
[ ________ ] Company joins other leading crafts in the [ ________ ] portfolio, including [ ________ ] Brewing Company, [ ________ ] Brewing Company and [ ________ ] Brewing Company. For more information on [ ________ ] Company and its portfolio of brands, visit [ ________ ] .com. The transaction is expected to complete in MONTH/YEAR. The terms of the transaction were not disclosed.
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Googling the event turned up a news article from a previous year listing the interesting brews such as "Red Hook Longhammer” and “popular Japanese brew Kirin Ichiban"
Brewfest happening this Saturday. There shouldn't be any budweiser there, but I haven't seen any listings for who will actually be there (It's central Wisconsin, I'm not too worried. New Glarus and Central Waters should be there). Last year it was around 95 degrees and everyone brought their stouts and porters... Supposed to be cooler and some cloud this year, but hopefully they've all decided to bring more sessions and saisons just in case.
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Yeah, it seems like the OBF has slowly adapted to the weather over the last decade or so to the point where if dark beer selection hits double digits, I'm surprised.
Really looking forward to the international side tent this year. Besides the Dutch contingent continuing to fulfill an oath that they'll keep showing up until somebody stops them, for 2016 they invited Germany, Japan, and China.
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Brunch. Parade. Metric ton of beer. Nap. Salmon.
Today did not suck.
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After years of pouring from my keg through a picnic tap like a heathen I finally made an upgrade;
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Mind you I only want to make a small batch.
I am bad at taking photos.
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Shit, I should have read the instructions to learn how to do that.
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No. Your state may not have a law against it but distilling spirits without a permit is a federal felony, with a 5 year sentence. And the TTB has been getting a lot more aggressive about policing the law.
http://reason.com/blog/2014/07/15/feds-take-a-sudden-interest-in-busting-h
Basically I've been making my own tonic, and it's pretty simple, but the difficulty comes when it comes to filter fines out of the boil.
The bark that makes the tonic crushes easily and crushes ridiculously fine. After I boil it I can filter it using coffee filters, but it takes over twenty filters to do a litre of concentrate I've tried muslin cloth and it immediately jams with sediment. I'm hoping beer filtration techniques might be able to increase the fine size of the bark and allow me to use coffee filters again, or if anyone knows a better / easier way. Do you have any advice regarding this?
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I'm not sure our homebrew filter techniques will work for that.
Most of homebrew filtering takes place in the boil (Irish moss) or cold crashing, which is just chilling it to get all the crap to settle and then siphoning the beer out.
I don't know if tonic can be cold crashed.
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Have you tried using a French press?
The only other thing I can think of is to let your batch sit long enough for the fines and sediment to settle to the bottom, and then siphon the tonic off the top of it, trying not to disturb the sediment.
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Sculpin 6 packs are some how $4 cheaper here.
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Cold crashing, along with gelatin should reduce the amount of bark particulate circulating in the tonic before you transfer it into the next container (should make it easier to filter through a coffee filter (you may have seen this http://www.alcademics.com/2012/05/homemade-tonic-water-filtration.html).
Getting the liquid cold for a couple days should help the solids settle out (the beer cold crash is supposed to be getting it down to around 33F for around 48 hours). Hitting it with a pasteurized gelatin solution (I've been using around 1/2 tsp of plain gelatin powder in 1/4 cup filtered water) should pick up some of the loose stuff still floating around and keeping it cold will get the gelatin to settle out and out of the way for when you transfer the tonic out.
How I did it yesterday was let it settle for a day and carefully ladelled off the top liquid and I got about half of it very clear and used minimal filters for that half.
The second half I first dropped a muslin cloth on top of the bowl so anything I was scooping had passed through it but was too close to the settling material and stirred up too much sediment. I ladelled off about half of that (and comparatively it was not very clean compared to the first lot) before I just got too close to the sediment and then couldn't ladel anymore so I threw the rest in muslin cloth along with the fines and squeezed the rest through. That last part was super sedimenty though and it took a lot of filtering for me to clean up that part.
I'm hoping for something that can really clump everything together to allow for less stir up when I interact with it.
A large volume french press may work ok? I could put it in, let it settle, then press it slowly and hopefully keep the majority of the sediment down if I pour it off again, but I'm not sure if it will work well or not.
Satans..... hints.....
I'm not sure if that would work particularly better though.
Reading his recipe, he is talking about filtering only half a cup of liquid. I'm around the four cup stage. I'm not sure if his setup is really scalable that scalable.
Aeropresses I've found have their own issues in that once the clog, they just push liquid to the side and bypass the filter and no actual filtration takes place.
Satans..... hints.....
Good to know. I'm going to pass that on to my buddy, he has been getting into the whole concept of distilling pretty hard. He even said he looked it up. Guess not!
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And the "get messed up quick" beer of the summer is Ballast Point Barmy. Apricot and Honey Golden Ale - at 12% ABV.
I think the first thing you should do is get yourself an auto-siphon and length of tubing and use that instead of a ladle. You could try lining a fine mesh filter with a double layer of cheesecloth too and siphoning through that into another vessel.
(I believe the wiki references this (http://www.curiouscook.com/site/2007/10/curious-cook-in-the-new-york-times-clarifying-liquids-with-gelatin.html) specifically)
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Alright, Costanza.
To be fair it only got shut down in Feb.
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I almost wrote T-S off because their Firefall red wasnt very impressive. Glad gave them another go. Will have to stop by the brewery some time.
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Fuck it, I'm hitting the bottle shops on the way home.
The press release was cookie-cutter as hell, so Beervana created this for easy use in the future and it's so spot-on it hurts:
========================================
Introducing the Buy-out
[ _______________ ] announced today an agreement to acquire a majority interest in [ ________ ]-based [ __________ ] Brewing Company.
Expression of Delight in Finding the Perfect Buyer
“Bringing [ __________ ] on allowed us to get to know each other better and realize the incredible potential of becoming a majority-owned partner with [ __________ ] ,” said [ __________ ] , co-founder and vice president of brewing development. “With [ __________ ] 's dedication to helping us grow and their passion for creating high-quality craft beers, we knew it would be the perfect partnership. We look forward to continuing to create innovative beers to share with beer lovers nationwide.”
Anodyne History of the Acquired Brewery
[ ________ ] founders [ ________ ] and [ ________ ] set out in 20## to craft beers unlike any that were available in the [ ________ ] at the time, choosing [ ________ ] as home base because of its distinctive culture and shared appreciation for [ ________ ]. The 84,000-square-foot brewery and 100-barrel brew house creates year-round and seasonal beers including [ ________ ], [ ________ ], and [ ________ ].
Expression of Delight in Finding Perfect Craft Brewery to Buy
“The team at [ ________ ] is so passionate and committed to brewing such terrific beers that we are thrilled to welcome them deeper into the [ ________ ] family,” said [ ________ ], president and CEO of [ ________ ] . “As owners, our job is to work collaboratively with their team to support their continued success with their innovative, award-winning beers that complement our portfolio perfectly.”
Concluding Corporate Statements
[ ________ ] Company joins other leading crafts in the [ ________ ] portfolio, including [ ________ ] Brewing Company, [ ________ ] Brewing Company and [ ________ ] Brewing Company. For more information on [ ________ ] Company and its portfolio of brands, visit [ ________ ] .com. The transaction is expected to complete in MONTH/YEAR. The terms of the transaction were not disclosed.
Only brewer on the poster was Budweiser.
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That makes sense.
Googling the event turned up a news article from a previous year listing the interesting brews such as "Red Hook Longhammer” and “popular Japanese brew Kirin Ichiban"
<sigh>
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Both days have brewery lists that look preeeeeetty good.
Speaking of which - IT'S THIS WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK.
Really looking forward to the international side tent this year. Besides the Dutch contingent continuing to fulfill an oath that they'll keep showing up until somebody stops them, for 2016 they invited Germany, Japan, and China.
Today did not suck.
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