I was under the impression that having an employer sponsor you negated the 'maintenance' requirement? It's been a while since I looked at that in depth though, admittedly, but I remember when I got an interview for a job in London I was worried that the fact that while I had enough to cover the maintenance, it hadn't been in my account for 90 days. But from what I read, it seemed like the sponsorship obviated that need - they just had to show proof that because of your employment, you wouldn't be taking public funds. I think? thought? I could very well be and am likely wrong, but that was at least the impression I got.
No, you definitely need to have funds on top of the sponsorship - I think it's to ensure you can get home again if they fire you.
I was under the impression that having an employer sponsor you negated the 'maintenance' requirement? It's been a while since I looked at that in depth though, admittedly, but I remember when I got an interview for a job in London I was worried that the fact that while I had enough to cover the maintenance, it hadn't been in my account for 90 days. But from what I read, it seemed like the sponsorship obviated that need - they just had to show proof that because of your employment, you wouldn't be taking public funds. I think? thought? I could very well be and am likely wrong, but that was at least the impression I got.
As for my demonstrable skills, they are admittedly not the kind that's particularly appealing to most employers. My work experience is running a buffet in a restaurant and working as (in a simplified term) a tour guide at a state park. So I have experience in customer service and public speaking, more or less. And no schooling to speak of, although I would like to change that if possible. I've just been kind of stuck working full time and have never had the money nor time to do it.
So what was the original job offer that you allude to in the OP?
Not only is it a question of once you're accepted into the EU it will be easy or at least easier to move between EU countries
This isn't really true. Actually, it really ISN'T true. It is true that once you have permanent EU residency then it's easy to move around and get jobs wherever, but permanent residency is a hugely different deal to a working visa, and much more difficult to acquire - essentially impossible if you have no family ties to the country, do not work there and do not speak the language.
This probably isn't what OP is looking for, but there is one (potentially) quick route to permanent residency or citizenship in an EU country -- Légion étrangère (French Foreign Legion).
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That's.... hm. Interesting.
The job was at the Tower of London. Essentially a tour guide. One of my interviewers emailed me to tell me that they wanted to hire me but after talking to HR, it was impossible. Which was devastating in a lot of ways, not least of which all the hope that I'd built up even getting to that point. But also the fact that if an organization like that couldn't do it, my options looked pretty grim. (I guess they reserve them for high-ranking specialists, since companies can only give out so many. Which makes sense and all, and I can't begrudge them for it, but it was still a huge bummer.)
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Well a large public charity like the Tower of London probably has the optics and regulations of hiring lots of furriners to consider, not to mention you're competing in cost terms against a bunch of part-time retirees for tour guide jobs at famous places in big cities.
Other institutions might not have those sort of constraints, tour guides for some god-forsaken place might be more in need.
Dis has the right of it, the Tower of London is a dream job for a lot of people, they can essentially pick and choose as they'll have so many applying, and often they will choose several people as part-time workers than one full-time person as it gives them more flexibility. A lot of museums work like this and its frustrating for anyone who wants to make it full-time being a guide, and somewhere as popular as that will never run out of people applying and wanting to do minimum hours.
Other institutions might not have those sort of constraints, tour guides for some god-forsaken place might be more in need.
Somewhere that needs a real American accent might be more willing to bend backwards - wild west shows, theme "speakeasies" & the like.
But frankly, I think that without money, there's no fast way to get to the UK. There's a lot of immigration safeguards enacted against the broke, because no country likes the "foreigners turning up and living on welfare." Or even "foreigners turning up and taking our jobs" (i.e. low paid entry level jobs.) The first step in your plan should be "save up money." If that's hard, figure out why, and fix it. Ideally, you want to get an in-demand skill, because people with those get in on the fast track.
You should be thinking "How do I live in the UK in five years time?" Not "How do I move tomorrow?"
Does the tower of London have regular guides alongside the ex military types? I went to drink at their private club earlier in the year after a tour and it was basically a military club for NCOs
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@Kalkino All the Yeoman Warders live on site, that's probably why. But there are other job posts that don't require military service, yeah.
And I'm not.. well okay, it would be nice if I found some miracle way of moving there tomorrow, but I truly am looking at this as a long-term prospect. Right now I'm trying to figure out which avenues are most likely to be beneficial to explore, knowing it probably will be several years at least.
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@Kalkino All the Yeoman Warders live on site, that's probably why. But there are other job posts that don't require military service, yeah.
And I'm not.. well okay, it would be nice if I found some miracle way of moving there tomorrow, but I truly am looking at this as a long-term prospect. Right now I'm trying to figure out which avenues are most likely to be beneficial to explore, knowing it probably will be several years at least.
Then you need to build a list of qualifications so it is easier to get hired through the visa system. The longer the list, the less likely they will be able to find a match locally.
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No, you definitely need to have funds on top of the sponsorship - I think it's to ensure you can get home again if they fire you.
So what was the original job offer that you allude to in the OP?
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This probably isn't what OP is looking for, but there is one (potentially) quick route to permanent residency or citizenship in an EU country -- Légion étrangère (French Foreign Legion).
The job was at the Tower of London. Essentially a tour guide. One of my interviewers emailed me to tell me that they wanted to hire me but after talking to HR, it was impossible. Which was devastating in a lot of ways, not least of which all the hope that I'd built up even getting to that point. But also the fact that if an organization like that couldn't do it, my options looked pretty grim. (I guess they reserve them for high-ranking specialists, since companies can only give out so many. Which makes sense and all, and I can't begrudge them for it, but it was still a huge bummer.)
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Other institutions might not have those sort of constraints, tour guides for some god-forsaken place might be more in need.
Somewhere that needs a real American accent might be more willing to bend backwards - wild west shows, theme "speakeasies" & the like.
But frankly, I think that without money, there's no fast way to get to the UK. There's a lot of immigration safeguards enacted against the broke, because no country likes the "foreigners turning up and living on welfare." Or even "foreigners turning up and taking our jobs" (i.e. low paid entry level jobs.) The first step in your plan should be "save up money." If that's hard, figure out why, and fix it. Ideally, you want to get an in-demand skill, because people with those get in on the fast track.
You should be thinking "How do I live in the UK in five years time?" Not "How do I move tomorrow?"
Great fun though as long as you buy them drinks
And I'm not.. well okay, it would be nice if I found some miracle way of moving there tomorrow, but I truly am looking at this as a long-term prospect. Right now I'm trying to figure out which avenues are most likely to be beneficial to explore, knowing it probably will be several years at least.
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Then you need to build a list of qualifications so it is easier to get hired through the visa system. The longer the list, the less likely they will be able to find a match locally.
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