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the next evolution of rock.
Xenocide Geek
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so, what do you guys think is going to be the next evolution in the progression of rock? are we going to stay on the same path we're on now, or is the slow progression into some of the "harder" rock referred to as metal, heavy rock, heavy metal, etc.
in ten years, is "rock" going to be considered the heaviest of the heavy metal stuff? are we looking at rock becoming something maybe "softer", or perhaps something with an electronic/rock fusion...
i'm really interested in hearing what other people think. i've often thought about what the progression of rock would look like - i think that it has a chance to go both ways. heavier and heavier music is being played and just being referred to as rock. i don't think this is a particularly bad way to go, but i think it's more likely that we'll start hearing electronic/technoISH sounding/rock groups making their way into the spotlight.
so: the evolution of rock - soft, hard, non-existent? what?
we've gone from the good old days of classic rock/blues, into glam rock, and many other evolutions... what's next?
edit: i should make it clear i'm not really meaning to re-define the word rock, as much as i'm asking what the next dominant type of rock is going to be coming up.
in ten years, is "rock" going to be considered the heaviest of the heavy metal stuff? are we looking at rock becoming something maybe "softer", or perhaps something with an electronic/rock fusion...
i'm really interested in hearing what other people think. i've often thought about what the progression of rock would look like - i think that it has a chance to go both ways. heavier and heavier music is being played and just being referred to as rock. i don't think this is a particularly bad way to go, but i think it's more likely that we'll start hearing electronic/technoISH sounding/rock groups making their way into the spotlight.
so: the evolution of rock - soft, hard, non-existent? what?
we've gone from the good old days of classic rock/blues, into glam rock, and many other evolutions... what's next?
edit: i should make it clear i'm not really meaning to re-define the word rock, as much as i'm asking what the next dominant type of rock is going to be coming up.
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Although I would like to see electronic mixed with rock successfully.
Both of those are relatively high-production styles, but there's also been a huge boom in lo-fi, independent-ish work.
A huge problem in trying to define 'the next trend' in some sort of unidirectional evolution is that as of right now, there is no popular mainstream. Radio is largely a dying beast as far as fresh new music goes. Musical tastes have diverged enormously due to the ability to fileshare and to populate small, geographically dispersed niches in the music scene.
I wouldn't call either of those bands rock, though. Except maybe for 'creep', which Thom Yorke hates. Rock as a style is pretty set in my mind, so bands like Led Zeppelin Mk II-sorry-Wolfmother and Jet qualify, and maybe Powderfinger, but not those guys. Its a specific sound, but fuck if it isn't difficult to quantify now that I think about it.
you mean down the toliet?
i consider "rock" to be blues-influenced and guitar-heavy. i think rock needs to return to its' roots and stop with all of this other bullshit. when fucking GREEN DAY is considered to be a rock band, something is terribly terribly wrong here.
wolfmother, despite being a led zep tribute band, is probably the closest mainstream thing we've got to "real" rock nowdays.
jet is pop rock, sorry. also they're annoying as shit.
Greenday is considered to be punk. While the genre did come from rock, it's not quite the same. And I don't think we're listening to the same Jet.
I think it's possible that rock is phasing out and being replaced by pop-punk and emo from one side, and R&B from the other. It's like Spice Girls Mk II, and you'll have to wait a decade before someone new does something revolutionary and brings attention back to the genre.
Course, you could also have rock with individually picked fast riffs a la Metallica...
The way I see it, the record companies have absorbed rock into their giant, pulsating forms, and in the process have ripped away the creativity from popular rock. Of course, there are still countless bands out there that do their own thing, are incredible, and no one knows about them. But the fifty bajillion teens who listen to Z100 know "rock" as Breaking Benjamin and Nickelback. Those types of bands wander into a studio, get a big-wig music producer who looks at demographic charts with his dick out, and have their songs written for them in a carefully calculated, devoid-of-any-soul standard rock format. When session guitarists aren't hired to play the solo, they still throw a "solo" in the song, which more often than not consists of the melody line repeated ad-nauseum with a couple of bends thrown in on the guitar.
It's a process designed to make money that is in no way different from the team of music scientists who pore over every new Xtina song to make sure it's catchy. The only difference is that people mistake this pop-rock for rebellion.
It's sad, but that's what eventually happens to every music genre, given enough popularity.
Luckily, there are thousands of great bands out there. You just have to know where to look.
yes, it's just EW, but tell me, which grammy did they get for "american idiot"?
and i'm positive we're listening to the same jet. listen beyond the screeching and the ocassional guitar riff; it's like listening to van morrison. bleah.
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Coheed and cambria is the evolution for me. I think electronic additions as well as experimentation and softer tunes will be in. Weve already had the heavy stuff.
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A friend of mine once said "Everything has already been written, it's all in how you arrange it." I think he's right. At this point, can there really be a chord progression that hasn't been done somewhere by someone?
Just enjoy what you like and go with it. Analyzing everything sucks out the joy of it.
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Radiohead? Of Montreal? A lot of other people who mix electronica with rock?
That's pretty vague too. That definition would also include almost all jazz.
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We need a couple guitar gods and some frontmen with killer pipes to come and kick the life back into rock, man!
Even the Rock and Roll hall of fame doesn't seem to know what rock is. They've inducted people like Miles Davis and Grandmaster Flash, choices which don't make any sense to me. While both of those guys were innovative, creative, and talented musicians, they aren't what most people would consider Rock and Roll.
But they both 'Rocked!'.
That's confusing 'Rock and Roll' with 'Rocking'. Many none rock (music) things rock.
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