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The Death of Freddie Gray and the Baltimore Riots Update: Police Charged!

QuidQuid Definitely not a bananaRegistered User regular
edited May 2015 in Debate and/or Discourse
The events for this have been getting notable enough I feel it deserves its own thread. For background, a black man named Freddie Gray died in police custody in unclear circumstances. This led to protests which have just recently turned violent. A number of officers have been injured and there's been a bunch of property damage.

Live video: http://www.wbaltv.com/news/demonstrators-converge-in-baltimore/32595700

http://abcnews.go.com/live

Live blog: http://live.baltimoresun.com/Event/Latest_updates_from_the_Freddie_Gray_case_in_Baltimore

If anyone has links to better video or from people streaming on location I'd appreciate it.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    A CVS was just set on fire and there's a massive block of police marching down by it.

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    I see a building on fire.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
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    Anchors said the fire department can't get to it because of crowds.

    Edit: Shows what they know! Fire dept is there.

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    hsuhsu Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Just a bit of the rioting photos from the past few days (the first riot was Saturday evening), starting with an injured cop.
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    HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    I suspect incidents like this will only become more common in the future.

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    tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    "We will find the people that are responsible and we will put them in murder them on the way to jail," @BaltimorePolice Capt. Kowalczyk said earlier

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    LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    The police sure are shitty

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    SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    It looks like the "metro station on fire" pic is actually showing the smoke from the burning police car in front of the Subway.

    edit: Oh I guess that's probably been cleared up, based on your edit.

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    AstaleAstale Registered User regular
    Setting things on fire is a great way to win sympathy.

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    hsuhsu Registered User regular
    Below is the best live thread you'll find on the current events, direct from the Baltimore Sun newspaper.
    http://live.baltimoresun.com/Event/Latest_updates_from_the_Freddie_Gray_case_in_Baltimore

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    tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    I suspect incidents like this will only become more common in the future.

    At this point, I think it is going to take some sort of concerted insurgency action to generate the kind of federal involvement in local PDs that we need.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Worth noting is that there were no protests scheduled today.

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    HamHamJHamHamJ Registered User regular
    Astale wrote: »
    Setting things on fire is a great way to win sympathy.

    Sympathy is useless. What is necessary is fear.

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    AstaleAstale Registered User regular
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Setting things on fire is a great way to win sympathy.

    Sympathy is useless. What is necessary is fear.

    So, the police?

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    tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    The events for this have been getting notable enough I feel it deserves its own thread. For background, a black man named Freddie Gray died in police custody in unclear circumstances. This led to protests which have just recently turned violent. A number of officers have been injured and there's been a bunch of property damage.

    Live video: http://www.wbaltv.com/news/demonstrators-converge-in-baltimore/32595700

    If anyone has links to better video or from people streaming on location I'd appreciate it.

    That WBALTV stream is basically nothing but a constant stream of dog whistles. Holy Shit.

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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    A Dabble Of Thelonius wrote: »
    Oh cool, free candy.

    The liquor store actually.

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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    tinwhiskers wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    The events for this have been getting notable enough I feel it deserves its own thread. For background, a black man named Freddie Gray died in police custody in unclear circumstances. This led to protests which have just recently turned violent. A number of officers have been injured and there's been a bunch of property damage.

    Live video: http://www.wbaltv.com/news/demonstrators-converge-in-baltimore/32595700

    If anyone has links to better video or from people streaming on location I'd appreciate it.

    That WBALTV stream is basically nothing but a constant stream of dog whistles. Holy Shit.

    I can't find it at the moment, but there was an incident where a reporter praised the cops for "showing restraint" while a protester "shoved a sign in their faces".

    From 8 feet away.

    Behind a fence.

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    ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Setting things on fire is a great way to win sympathy.

    Sympathy is useless. What is necessary is fear.

    So are you condoning the looting/rioting?

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    GONG-00GONG-00 Registered User regular
    Is there video of the rioters cutting up a fire hose to keep the CVS burning?

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    GONG-00 wrote: »
    Is there video of the rioters cutting up a fire hose to keep the CVS burning?

    I find that doubtful. It's not being reported and there were no rioters anywhere near the fire department. Police had the area cordoned off.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    GONG-00 wrote: »
    Is there video of the rioters cutting up a fire hose to keep the CVS burning?

    There should be soon, CNN had their cameras right on the hydrant when it happened.

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    MancingtomMancingtom Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Setting things on fire is a great way to win sympathy.

    Sympathy is useless. What is necessary is fear.

    So are you condoning the looting/rioting?

    "A riot is the language of the unheard."

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    News reporting the national guard is being mobilized.

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    SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    Worth noting is that there were no protests scheduled today.
    @Quid can you expand on this or provide a link or something.

    I find it deeply unsurprising that today is the day this starts receiving more attention.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Here's video of the fire hose being cut:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8W9iw6gx40

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    frenetic_ferretfrenetic_ferret wildest weasel East Coast is Best CoastRegistered User regular
    Astale wrote: »
    Setting things on fire is a great way to win sympathy.

    MSNBC is stating that people were planning a "purge".

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    ZavianZavian universal peace sounds better than forever war Registered User regular
    Baltimore mayor thinks the solution is to "give those who wished to destroy space to do that.”

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Surfpossum wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    Worth noting is that there were no protests scheduled today.
    @Quid can you expand on this or provide a link or something.

    I find it deeply unsurprising that today is the day this starts receiving more attention.

    I'm looking around online but one of the anchors mentioned local civic leaders specifically didn't schedule any protests for today.

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    TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    Yup, I saw one of the cuts on their feed so there is definitely video of it.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    Here's video of the fire hose being cut:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8W9iw6gx40

    God dammit

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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Quid wrote: »
    Surfpossum wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    Worth noting is that there were no protests scheduled today.
    @Quid can you expand on this or provide a link or something.

    I find it deeply unsurprising that today is the day this starts receiving more attention.

    I'm looking around online but one of the anchors mentioned local civic leaders specifically didn't schedule any protests for today.

    Yeah the funeral being today it was a measure of respect to not do it. Plus the family asked for they said on TV a few times.

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    ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Mancingtom wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Setting things on fire is a great way to win sympathy.

    Sympathy is useless. What is necessary is fear.

    So are you condoning the looting/rioting?

    "A riot is the language of the unheard."

    That's a nice quote that is taken out of context and is often debated about whether MLK would actually encourage riots in situations like these.

    Protests should come first, imo. Then if you are unheard, riots could be used as a way of getting the government's attention.

    Going straight from "This is an injustice" to "Riot and Loot all the things" looks like and often is just an excuse used by bad people to riot/loot.

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    DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Mancingtom wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Setting things on fire is a great way to win sympathy.

    Sympathy is useless. What is necessary is fear.

    So are you condoning the looting/rioting?

    "A riot is the language of the unheard."

    That's a nice quote that is taken out of context and is often debated about whether MLK would actually encourage riots in situations like these.

    Protests should come first, imo. Then if you are unheard, riots could be used as a way of getting the government's attention.

    Going straight from "This is an injustice" to "Riot and Loot all the things" looks like and often is just an excuse used by bad people to riot/loot.

    people in baltimore have been protesting for 3 weeks

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    SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    Dehumanized wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Mancingtom wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Setting things on fire is a great way to win sympathy.

    Sympathy is useless. What is necessary is fear.

    So are you condoning the looting/rioting?

    "A riot is the language of the unheard."

    That's a nice quote that is taken out of context and is often debated about whether MLK would actually encourage riots in situations like these.

    Protests should come first, imo. Then if you are unheard, riots could be used as a way of getting the government's attention.

    Going straight from "This is an injustice" to "Riot and Loot all the things" looks like and often is just an excuse used by bad people to riot/loot.

    people in baltimore have been protesting for 3 weeks
    2 weeks, no? But yeah.

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    Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    Dehumanized wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Mancingtom wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Setting things on fire is a great way to win sympathy.

    Sympathy is useless. What is necessary is fear.

    So are you condoning the looting/rioting?

    "A riot is the language of the unheard."

    That's a nice quote that is taken out of context and is often debated about whether MLK would actually encourage riots in situations like these.

    Protests should come first, imo. Then if you are unheard, riots could be used as a way of getting the government's attention.

    Going straight from "This is an injustice" to "Riot and Loot all the things" looks like and often is just an excuse used by bad people to riot/loot.

    people in baltimore have been protesting for 3 weeks

    The organizers, or several of them, did not look amused when interviewed awhile ago.

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    ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Dehumanized wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Mancingtom wrote: »
    ObiFett wrote: »
    HamHamJ wrote: »
    Astale wrote: »
    Setting things on fire is a great way to win sympathy.

    Sympathy is useless. What is necessary is fear.

    So are you condoning the looting/rioting?

    "A riot is the language of the unheard."

    That's a nice quote that is taken out of context and is often debated about whether MLK would actually encourage riots in situations like these.

    Protests should come first, imo. Then if you are unheard, riots could be used as a way of getting the government's attention.

    Going straight from "This is an injustice" to "Riot and Loot all the things" looks like and often is just an excuse used by bad people to riot/loot.

    people in baltimore have been protesting for 3 weeks

    well, then nevermind!

    this is the first i've heard about it

    which proves that maybe rioting/looting is the right thing to do in this case.

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    3lwap03lwap0 Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Let's head off the assumptions of the keyboard warriors here and now: There wasn't a protest, a march, a rally, or anything today. Freddie Gray's family had the funeral today, and they wanted peace. This whole fucking thing stemmed from this:

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    And when all the high schools got out of school around NorthWest Baltimore, they went on a riot and looting spree. Just fuckin' went to town. The police show up, and every 7-11, CVS, and liquor store became a target. This isn't an affirmation that Black Lives Matter, or a statement of rampant inequality, just good ol' plain fashioned larcenous fuckery.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Police just unloaded a few LTL shotgun rounds then hopped back in their wagon. Dunno what kind.

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    ZavianZavian universal peace sounds better than forever war Registered User regular
    3lwap0 wrote: »
    And when all the high schools got out of school around NorthWest Baltimore, they went on a riot and looting spree. Just fuckin' went to town. The police show up, and every 7-11, CVS, and liquor store became a target. This isn't an affirmation that Black Lives Matter, or a statement of rampant inequality, just good ol' plain fashioned larcenous fuckery.

    Well that goes against the narrative of people like Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) that the rioters are 'mainly from out of town'

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