I wouldn't miss Jackson either. Really one of the Roosevelt presidents need to be put on the money in my opinion.
probably not Teddy
Yeah if you're going for "who was the greater president" FDR is clearly the better choice, but that's a bit unfair to Teddy since you're basically comparing him to someone who was as important as Lincoln or Washington.
I'd be perfectly happy with getting rid of Kennedy on the half dollar and putting FDR on there.
Put iconic stuff on the low-denomination currency like Lady Liberty and such. For high-denomination stuff, rotate through iconic American places and artifacts like the Golden Gate bridge, the Empire State Building, the Grand Canyon, the Hoover Dam, the redwood forests, some buffalo, the liberty bell... There are probably centuries worth of stuff every American would, or at least should, recognize without ever using people.
We already are doing this, except in our coinage instead of our bills. The quarters went through the states and now they're on the national parks, and the dollar coin is currently running through the Presidents at a rate of four per year.
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I wouldn't miss Jackson either. Really one of the Roosevelt presidents need to be put on the money in my opinion.
probably not Teddy
Yeah if you're going for "who was the greater president" FDR is clearly the better choice, but that's a bit unfair to Teddy since you're basically comparing him to someone who was as important as Lincoln or Washington.
I'd be perfectly happy with getting rid of Kennedy on the half dollar and putting FDR on there.
Put iconic stuff on the low-denomination currency like Lady Liberty and such. For high-denomination stuff, rotate through iconic American places and artifacts like the Golden Gate bridge, the Empire State Building, the Grand Canyon, the Hoover Dam, the redwood forests, some buffalo, the liberty bell... There are probably centuries worth of stuff every American would, or at least should, recognize without ever using people.
We already are doing this, except in our coinage instead of our bills. The quarters went through the states and now they're on the national parks, and the dollar coin is currently running through the Presidents at a rate of four per year.
it's more that Teddy said shit like this
"I wish very much that the wrong people could be prevented entirely from breeding; and when the evil nature of these people is sufficiently flagrant, this should be done. Criminals should be sterilized and feeble-minded persons forbidden to leave offspring behind them."
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Johnny ChopsockyScootaloo! We have to cook!Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered Userregular
We can never remove Andrew Jackson from the $20 bill. It is that very binding that prevents his restless spirit from killing us all.
"I wish very much that the wrong people could be prevented entirely from breeding; and when the evil nature of these people is sufficiently flagrant, this should be done. Criminals should be sterilized and feeble-minded persons forbidden to leave offspring behind them."
Everyone said that when he was alive- a firm belief in eugenics was a hallmark of the Progressive political movement, with its emphasis on scientific thought and rationality. Our sterilization laws were admired by and implemented in Canada, Denmark, Finland, and Sweden. The movement fell apart in the 20s and 30s when scientists began to get a better idea of how genetic inheritance actually works, but in the halycon era of 1900 universities taught classes on it.
As an advocate of birth control I wish … to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the ‘unfit’ and the ‘fit,’ admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation…. On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.
Apparently in the UK they either have money changers or they do this thing where they put out a pint glass and the strippers don't dance till it is full of money.
Both seem like odd choices
Edit: this is an odd place for a ladies on money thread to end up.
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They moistly come out at night, moistly.
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you know
this seems mightily off topic
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AtomikaLive fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered Userregular
We went from "women patriots need better official representation" to "but what about strippers?" less than two pages.
Maybe we've gotten to the root of the problem already.
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Are we stripper-shaming now? I don't think there's anything preventing strippers from becoming great Americans, worthy of being immortalized on bills and coinage.
Maybe we could popularize the 50-cent coin in this way.
We could put Heath Ledger Joker on the $100 bill & write "WHY SO SERIOUS?" across it.
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I actually think we are at the point where it may be time to start phasing cash out altogether in favor of a secure debit card type system. It would help so much with tax avoidance and curtailing illegal activity.
I actually think we are at the point where it may be time to start phasing cash out altogether in favor of a secure debit card type system. It would help so much with tax avoidance and curtailing illegal activity.
Here in Canada, using Interac/Interac Flash is how how people pay for things, assuming that they're not using a credit card. I no longer carry any cash at all, I haven't for years.
Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
I actually think we are at the point where it may be time to start phasing cash out altogether in favor of a secure debit card type system. It would help so much with tax avoidance and curtailing illegal activity.
Except for the fact that it would be run by the banks, where all the major players have had significant fines in the past ten years for both tax avoidance and aiding in illegal activities.
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Also, it would fuck the poor.
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I actually think we are at the point where it may be time to start phasing cash out altogether in favor of a secure debit card type system. It would help so much with tax avoidance and curtailing illegal activity.
The US is absolutely not at a point where phasing out cash is a good idea. You can only do that if you already have a widely used secure debit card system in place that favours consumers and does not posit any barriers for anyone.
There are a few western countries that can start thinking about phasing out cash, the US is not one of them.
I tend to never carry more than twenty bucks in cash, due to my habit of losing stuff. Still, I wouldn't suggest going to a cashless society yet. Too many people still live in poverty, which banks an other 'financial institutions' take advantage of.
There was a proposal last year from the US Postal Service Inspector General and supported by Elizabeth Warren that the US postal service could act as a bank. It would undercut the payday loan service business in some areas by not gouging people to cash cheques, and it could provide basic banking services free or at a minimal cost.
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I work in a largely refugee community right here in the American midwest, and I'd say half of the people here need to pay their rent with money orders. For whatever reason (unmet requirements, distrust, etc.) they do not have bank accounts. There are pretty regular complaints of anywhere between $200 to $2,000 being stolen from apartments. I'm always surprised, because I rarely even have $5 on me, much less $2,000, but I also have two bank accounts, a HSA, a debit card, and white male privilege all up ins.
There was a proposal last year from the US Postal Service Inspector General and supported by Elizabeth Warren that the US postal service could act as a bank. It would undercut the payday loan service business in some areas by not gouging people to cash cheques, and it could provide basic banking services free or at a minimal cost.
Interesting idea, we already have post offices everywhere and it isn't like they have anything better to do.
There was a proposal last year from the US Postal Service Inspector General and supported by Elizabeth Warren that the US postal service could act as a bank. It would undercut the payday loan service business in some areas by not gouging people to cash cheques, and it could provide basic banking services free or at a minimal cost.
Interesting idea, we already have post offices everywhere and it isn't like they have anything better to do.
It's also something done by many nations (for example, the largest bank in Japan is the postal service) and we actually had such a service in the US in the early 20th century.
I expect the Republicans would do everything in their power to avoid that. "Big government playing with your money"
While I imagine that that would likely be what they would lead with, there are other concerns that are more realistic.
The biggest concern that I have is regarding fraud. There are a number of different behaviors people use to try to get money from banks, and people who methodically burn their bridges with every bank. It's one thing when people try to steal from a bank, but the US federal government is quite a bit more powerful and able to leverage its funds recovery in ways that a bank can't. Empower a federal institution too much in the wrong way and it could start hurting some disadvantaged people more than it helps them. Give it too little power, and it might not be able to help many disadvantaged people at all.
Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
I think the best option is to stop having a set picture for any denomination. I like seeing new stuff on quarters and I think it'd be great for other denominations to follow suit. I wouldn't expect a new design every few months but every 5-10 years would be nice.
To make up for Japanese internment we should honor a Japanese icon, so Goku on the quarter and Super Saiyan Goku on the dollar coin.
FDR will stay on the dime but he'll be reimagined by esteemed Japanese artist Akira Toriyama.
To make up for Japanese internment we should honor a Japanese icon, so Goku on the quarter and Super Saiyan Goku on the dollar coin.
FDR will stay on the dime but he'll be reimagined by esteemed Japanese artist Akira Toriyama.
Nah, we would need to celebrate an actual Japanese American who was in an internment camp...
I don't think reducing the identifying features on US bills is a good idea, they're already pretty same-y
You should make your five dollar bill blue, your ten purple, your twenty green, your fifty red, and your hundred brown. Make them with a tough polymer that can stand up to years of use. And then, do one better than Canada by making them different sizes.
Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
I don't think reducing the identifying features on US bills is a good idea, they're already pretty same-y
You should make your five dollar bill blue, your ten purple, your twenty green, your fifty red, and your hundred brown. Make them with a tough polymer that can stand up to years of use. And then, do one better than Canada by making them different sizes.
No, no, no, we should make the $1 white, $5 pink, $10 yellow, $20 green, $50 blue, $100 orange, and $500 dark orange. Here, I have a prototype:
Put me down as another in favor of dropping real people from our currency and replacing them with abstract things. We have a metric fuck ton of things we could use.
I'd also be up for phasing out the penny and one dollar entirely. The first one just isn't practical, hell might even be able to justify phasing out the nickel (could probably pick a different denomination that is occupied by zinc pennies that used to be worth one sent). I think math wise, it comes out cheaper to run with dollar coins over bills, they're much more durable and I gather harder to counterfeit (granted drop in the bucket and they do have drawbacks), but if we went the dollar coin route, the dollar bill has to go or people won't use them.
We had a thread on the post office doing some basic banking services. We really should and it would probably make it easier to move to a society where currency can be phased out. Right now that isn't realistic given how poorly many companies deal with the idea of security for their customers. Not to mention most of our current financial institutions being run by assholes that will permanently fuck up someone's live for a few extra bucks.
I'd like to see our nations notable women get more recognition for what they have done, but I don't think currency is the best choice. I rarely use currency these days. I keep some on hand for company raffles and a few other things, but most of time I'm using a credit card to pay for things and then using online banking to pay the credit balance off. So I don't think it would do much for recognition because I know, I'm not the only one that rarely deals with cash. Plus, not many people bother to admirer their currency and/or it's design. I also don't like what the current setup of using real life figures on currency entails.
I don't think reducing the identifying features on US bills is a good idea, they're already pretty same-y
You should make your five dollar bill blue, your ten purple, your twenty green, your fifty red, and your hundred brown. Make them with a tough polymer that can stand up to years of use. And then, do one better than Canada by making them different sizes.
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Yeah if you're going for "who was the greater president" FDR is clearly the better choice, but that's a bit unfair to Teddy since you're basically comparing him to someone who was as important as Lincoln or Washington.
I'd be perfectly happy with getting rid of Kennedy on the half dollar and putting FDR on there.
We already are doing this, except in our coinage instead of our bills. The quarters went through the states and now they're on the national parks, and the dollar coin is currently running through the Presidents at a rate of four per year.
it's more that Teddy said shit like this
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Everyone said that when he was alive- a firm belief in eugenics was a hallmark of the Progressive political movement, with its emphasis on scientific thought and rationality. Our sterilization laws were admired by and implemented in Canada, Denmark, Finland, and Sweden. The movement fell apart in the 20s and 30s when scientists began to get a better idea of how genetic inheritance actually works, but in the halycon era of 1900 universities taught classes on it.
Salon has a pretty good article on the phenomenon.
I mean, I guess you could technically still do that, but that's pretty unsanitary.
Applepay.
just use the handy dandy integrated coin slot
Just throw those large heavy coins at strippers. They just love that! Make it rain, baby!
Apparently in the UK they either have money changers or they do this thing where they put out a pint glass and the strippers don't dance till it is full of money.
Both seem like odd choices
Edit: this is an odd place for a ladies on money thread to end up.
this seems mightily off topic
Maybe we've gotten to the root of the problem already.
s-strippers... on... coins????
Maybe we could popularize the 50-cent coin in this way.
Here in Canada, using Interac/Interac Flash is how how people pay for things, assuming that they're not using a credit card. I no longer carry any cash at all, I haven't for years.
Except for the fact that it would be run by the banks, where all the major players have had significant fines in the past ten years for both tax avoidance and aiding in illegal activities.
The US is absolutely not at a point where phasing out cash is a good idea. You can only do that if you already have a widely used secure debit card system in place that favours consumers and does not posit any barriers for anyone.
There are a few western countries that can start thinking about phasing out cash, the US is not one of them.
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There was a proposal last year from the US Postal Service Inspector General and supported by Elizabeth Warren that the US postal service could act as a bank. It would undercut the payday loan service business in some areas by not gouging people to cash cheques, and it could provide basic banking services free or at a minimal cost.
Interesting idea, we already have post offices everywhere and it isn't like they have anything better to do.
It's also something done by many nations (for example, the largest bank in Japan is the postal service) and we actually had such a service in the US in the early 20th century.
While I imagine that that would likely be what they would lead with, there are other concerns that are more realistic.
The biggest concern that I have is regarding fraud. There are a number of different behaviors people use to try to get money from banks, and people who methodically burn their bridges with every bank. It's one thing when people try to steal from a bank, but the US federal government is quite a bit more powerful and able to leverage its funds recovery in ways that a bank can't. Empower a federal institution too much in the wrong way and it could start hurting some disadvantaged people more than it helps them. Give it too little power, and it might not be able to help many disadvantaged people at all.
The real question is whether that $20 is only worth $15.20.
FDR will stay on the dime but he'll be reimagined by esteemed Japanese artist Akira Toriyama.
I nominate George Takei:
I would use this exact same picture for the model of the coin, too.
You should make your five dollar bill blue, your ten purple, your twenty green, your fifty red, and your hundred brown. Make them with a tough polymer that can stand up to years of use. And then, do one better than Canada by making them different sizes.
I'd also be up for phasing out the penny and one dollar entirely. The first one just isn't practical, hell might even be able to justify phasing out the nickel (could probably pick a different denomination that is occupied by zinc pennies that used to be worth one sent). I think math wise, it comes out cheaper to run with dollar coins over bills, they're much more durable and I gather harder to counterfeit (granted drop in the bucket and they do have drawbacks), but if we went the dollar coin route, the dollar bill has to go or people won't use them.
We had a thread on the post office doing some basic banking services. We really should and it would probably make it easier to move to a society where currency can be phased out. Right now that isn't realistic given how poorly many companies deal with the idea of security for their customers. Not to mention most of our current financial institutions being run by assholes that will permanently fuck up someone's live for a few extra bucks.
I'd like to see our nations notable women get more recognition for what they have done, but I don't think currency is the best choice. I rarely use currency these days. I keep some on hand for company raffles and a few other things, but most of time I'm using a credit card to pay for things and then using online banking to pay the credit balance off. So I don't think it would do much for recognition because I know, I'm not the only one that rarely deals with cash. Plus, not many people bother to admirer their currency and/or it's design. I also don't like what the current setup of using real life figures on currency entails.
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Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
Or just copy Australia: