So just got back from seeing Ultron in 3D this time. Movie was about the same, but I think that there can be a strong argument to see Ant Man in 3D after seeing the trailer this time.
The size differences seem to work extremely well in that format.
Since this was bottom'd last page, I think it deserves more discussion. When I saw AoU last night (total of 8 people, 7 of which hadn't seen it yet), when this trailer came up it was pretty damn good to see in 3D. Maybe because it's effects heavy with the size shifting but the 3D seemed to work really well in the trailer, especially the shift before the train fight where the camera follows through the after-images of Lang as he shrinks down.
This might be the second movie I intentionally go see in 3D (first was Tron because I'm a fan and I liked the Wizard of Oz-esqe idea they had for its use in that movie).
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Good.
I would have loved Statham as Bullseye but I also really like this super decisive Fuck You retribution to everyone who can't let simple meetings go without taking photos or DMing someone to stir the pot of clickbait.
Statham was supposed to be in the Iron Man suit at the end of GOTG with Spider-Man and Captain Marvel.
My inside sources told me this is all a smokescreen and he's actually slated to play Vladimir in a Secret Avengers flick. Apparently this is the most physically taxing role of his career.
UPDATED @ 8:46 AM PT: Marvel Television has debunked the rumor that Jason Statham is in talks to join the cast of Daredevil," telling CBR News there is "no truth to it at all."
UPDATED @ 8:46 AM PT: Marvel Television has debunked the rumor that Jason Statham is in talks to join the cast of Daredevil," telling CBR News there is "no truth to it at all."
You guys really don't consider the X-Men / Wolverine movies to be Marvel Universe just because a different studio made those movies / holds the movie rights?
Huh, alrighty then.
...because they're not in the same movie universe? "Marvel Cinematic Universe" is the name Disney/Marvel uses for their shared franchise films, it's not something we made up.
Oh! That's what the C stands for, I thought that was for Comics! LOL
I don't quite understand how they could be in the same comic universe, even. Doesn't having other people with superpowers running around without everyone hating them kind of break the thematic premise of the X-Men?
In a way, having the movie rights split up like they are is a preemptive bullet dodge.
You guys really don't consider the X-Men / Wolverine movies to be Marvel Universe just because a different studio made those movies / holds the movie rights?
Huh, alrighty then.
...because they're not in the same movie universe? "Marvel Cinematic Universe" is the name Disney/Marvel uses for their shared franchise films, it's not something we made up.
Oh! That's what the C stands for, I thought that was for Comics! LOL
I don't quite understand how they could be in the same comic universe, even. Doesn't having other people with superpowers running around without everyone hating them kind of break the thematic premise of the X-Men?
In a way, having the movie rights split up like they are is a preemptive bullet dodge.
Nah, it works fine.
Mutants are a random unknown factor that can absolutely breed with your family, possibly without you knowing before it's too late, and in doing so will slowly lead non-mutant humanity toward extinction.
Super Science/Magic characters can be limited by limiting access to the technology/magic.
Aliens are a different species and generally have their own planets or cannot breed with humans anyway.
Mutants arise spontaneously from your own population and basically use up your genetic resources.
Granted, humans should be freaking out trying to figure out what the hell is causing mutation rather than focusing on just what are essentially the victims of mutation.
Granted, humans should be freaking out trying to figure out what the hell is causing mutation rather than focusing on just what are essentially the victims of mutation.
You guys really don't consider the X-Men / Wolverine movies to be Marvel Universe just because a different studio made those movies / holds the movie rights?
Huh, alrighty then.
...because they're not in the same movie universe? "Marvel Cinematic Universe" is the name Disney/Marvel uses for their shared franchise films, it's not something we made up.
Oh! That's what the C stands for, I thought that was for Comics! LOL
I don't quite understand how they could be in the same comic universe, even. Doesn't having other people with superpowers running around without everyone hating them kind of break the thematic premise of the X-Men?
In a way, having the movie rights split up like they are is a preemptive bullet dodge.
They're viewed as a secret potential source of danger by people. That's also the premise behind civil war, like that whole status quo for a while was about someone deciding that just including mutants in the mutant registration laws wasn't enough and crossing out "mutant" to write "superhero" instead.
Mostly, Marvel has played off of the "wears a costume, must be a hero" thing a lot*, so people are generally okay with some heroes because they're obvious**. However, mutants don't wear a costume unless they're X-men. Humans being typically xenophobic about any perceived outside threat react pretty harshly. The fact that people in the universe treat one group differently than another isn't an example of an inconsistency, that's simply how racism works.
*most notably with Mar-Vell, who people just assumed was a new hero and not just a Kree wearing his normal uniform
**Spider-man and Daredevil being the general exceptions to that rule.
Granted, humans should be freaking out trying to figure out what the hell is causing mutation rather than focusing on just what are essentially the victims of mutation.
The x-gene?
Yes, but why is the x-gene suddenly so prominent and what are its origins and how do you manage and control it and etc.
It's some sort of super-science thing happening at random which has potentially solar system-ending consequences.
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They actually do reveal all that in the comics - it would be pretty wild if they started to get into it in the comics. We sort've got a bit of that in GotG.
You guys really don't consider the X-Men / Wolverine movies to be Marvel Universe just because a different studio made those movies / holds the movie rights?
Huh, alrighty then.
...because they're not in the same movie universe? "Marvel Cinematic Universe" is the name Disney/Marvel uses for their shared franchise films, it's not something we made up.
Oh! That's what the C stands for, I thought that was for Comics! LOL
I don't quite understand how they could be in the same comic universe, even. Doesn't having other people with superpowers running around without everyone hating them kind of break the thematic premise of the X-Men?
In a way, having the movie rights split up like they are is a preemptive bullet dodge.
It totally is.
The two metaphors do not work together at all.
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Granted, humans should be freaking out trying to figure out what the hell is causing mutation rather than focusing on just what are essentially the victims of mutation.
The x-gene?
Yes, but why is the x-gene suddenly so prominent and what are its origins and how do you manage and control it and etc.
It's some sort of super-science thing happening at random which has potentially solar system-ending consequences.
To be fair, the comics twenty years ago didn't have anywhere near the propensity to make an absurd number of mutants have a potentially world-ending level of power. Then the scope of things grew wildly out of control across a zillion different writers trying to play up everybody's favorite characters, but nobody can stay killed off. Then everybody got to be an omega-level mutant, and then everybody died or got depowered, and yada yada yada.
But when you've got a continuity that runs in circles for decades and permanent changes are almost never allowed, how else do you ratchet up the stakes but by making everything be about ending the world? It just wasn't something that the originators of the idea could have anticipated; for them, the X-gene was a tool for a sort of "it could happen to anyone" show of why things like prejudice are so arbitrary and stupid.
The beauty of the Mutant-based stuff is that the fears are valid ones, and there's a huge amount of gray area. Magneto, Cyclops, and Xavier are all super dangerous day one. Iceman, Marvel Girl, Angel, and Beast are all potentially really amazing assassins or saboteurs day one.
The bigotry is still horrible, but it's not *completely* unjustified, and that makes for so much more compelling stories.
You guys really don't consider the X-Men / Wolverine movies to be Marvel Universe just because a different studio made those movies / holds the movie rights?
Huh, alrighty then.
...because they're not in the same movie universe? "Marvel Cinematic Universe" is the name Disney/Marvel uses for their shared franchise films, it's not something we made up.
Oh! That's what the C stands for, I thought that was for Comics! LOL
I don't quite understand how they could be in the same comic universe, even. Doesn't having other people with superpowers running around without everyone hating them kind of break the thematic premise of the X-Men?
In a way, having the movie rights split up like they are is a preemptive bullet dodge.
Nah, it works fine.
Mutants are a random unknown factor that can absolutely breed with your family, possibly without you knowing before it's too late, and in doing so will slowly lead non-mutant humanity toward extinction.
Super Science/Magic characters can be limited by limiting access to the technology/magic.
Aliens are a different species and generally have their own planets or cannot breed with humans anyway.
Mutants arise spontaneously from your own population and basically use up your genetic resources.
Granted, humans should be freaking out trying to figure out what the hell is causing mutation rather than focusing on just what are essentially the victims of mutation.
Why would anyone not think Spider-man was a mutant? Or an Inhuman? Any super-hero who isn't up front about their origins, or isn't believed, would be open to be called a mutant. And that's not going into why Cap, and other Avengers, wouldn't step right in to defend mutant rights. It'd effect everything and everyone, and it's have a remarkably different tone the MCU has now.
You guys really don't consider the X-Men / Wolverine movies to be Marvel Universe just because a different studio made those movies / holds the movie rights?
Huh, alrighty then.
...because they're not in the same movie universe? "Marvel Cinematic Universe" is the name Disney/Marvel uses for their shared franchise films, it's not something we made up.
Oh! That's what the C stands for, I thought that was for Comics! LOL
I don't quite understand how they could be in the same comic universe, even. Doesn't having other people with superpowers running around without everyone hating them kind of break the thematic premise of the X-Men?
In a way, having the movie rights split up like they are is a preemptive bullet dodge.
They're viewed as a secret potential source of danger by people. That's also the premise behind civil war, like that whole status quo for a while was about someone deciding that just including mutants in the mutant registration laws wasn't enough and crossing out "mutant" to write "superhero" instead.
Mostly, Marvel has played off of the "wears a costume, must be a hero" thing a lot*, so people are generally okay with some heroes because they're obvious**. However, mutants don't wear a costume unless they're X-men. Humans being typically xenophobic about any perceived outside threat react pretty harshly. The fact that people in the universe treat one group differently than another isn't an example of an inconsistency, that's simply how racism works.
*most notably with Mar-Vell, who people just assumed was a new hero and not just a Kree wearing his normal uniform
**Spider-man and Daredevil being the general exceptions to that rule.
It tends to happen when mutant psychopaths and genocidal lunatics do that under their mutant cause.
Their leader? Reversed the Earths magnetic field. Twice. With horrifying consequences on a global scale.
The problem is that they tend to retread the same stories over and over again. They've done the fanatical mutant haters trying to commit genocide on mutants so many times that mutant haters who saw the errors of their ways and were redeem have gone evil again.
It would be nice if they did more stories about the other effects mutants could have on society, like having corporations and governments wanting to use mutants for political, scientific, military, economic, etc. purposes. Have a Weapon X type program that actually worked and is used by governments as special military or espionage forces. Have corporations hire mutants to use their powers to make money. Have different countries treat mutants differently. Maybe in the US, people are afraid of mutants and persecute them but in China, they're willing to pay mutants lots of money and treat them like royalty so they'd work for the government and businesses and use their powers to benefit the entire society.
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I agree with the mutant fear being justified, it's just the same thing has been hammered home to a point of stupidity. You can do the religious fanatic believing mutants are the devil storyline in the 80's, it works there just fine. You try and retell it again in 2010? With the same 80's type preachers as opposed to even doing a different religion or angle to it? It's dated and dull and lazy.
(And Cyclops isn't dangerous he's the best he saves everyone because he's always right he's three Iron Mans put together)
I agree with the mutant fear being justified, it's just the same thing has been hammered home to a point of stupidity. You can do the religious fanatic believing mutants are the devil storyline in the 80's, it works there just fine. You try and retell it again in 2010? With the same 80's type preachers as opposed to even doing a different religion or angle to it? It's dated and dull and lazy.
There are various ways to do that - you don't need preachers to do this. Fox's movies didn't, Stryker was a preacher in the comics - in the movies he's switched to a general. There are various valid and irrational reasons why people would fear mutants and the Brotherhood of Mutants existence alone is enough to make rational people pee their shorts when they're in the same state. Magneto is a mid-tier mutant shitlord. That's not even going into dangerous mutants like Mr. Sinister or Apocalypse.
(And Cyclops isn't dangerous he's the best he saves everyone because he's always right he's three Iron Mans put together)
I see you haven't read the recent comics where he's on Magneto's side now and almost destroyed the world with the Pheonix to revitalize the mutant gene.
It certainly doesn't help that mutants call themselves "Homo Superior", openly state that they are the next step in evolution and that Homo Sapiens are now "obsolete". Not really a wonder why people might dislike them.
Granted, humans should be freaking out trying to figure out what the hell is causing mutation rather than focusing on just what are essentially the victims of mutation.
The x-gene?
Yes, but why is the x-gene suddenly so prominent and what are its origins
They used to go with the concept of the atomic age triggering the modern rash of mutations, but really, it's a mutation. By definition it's a random occurrence caused by damage to DNA. That's what mutation is.
You guys really don't consider the X-Men / Wolverine movies to be Marvel Universe just because a different studio made those movies / holds the movie rights?
Huh, alrighty then.
...because they're not in the same movie universe? "Marvel Cinematic Universe" is the name Disney/Marvel uses for their shared franchise films, it's not something we made up.
Oh! That's what the C stands for, I thought that was for Comics! LOL
I don't quite understand how they could be in the same comic universe, even. Doesn't having other people with superpowers running around without everyone hating them kind of break the thematic premise of the X-Men?
In a way, having the movie rights split up like they are is a preemptive bullet dodge.
They're viewed as a secret potential source of danger by people. That's also the premise behind civil war, like that whole status quo for a while was about someone deciding that just including mutants in the mutant registration laws wasn't enough and crossing out "mutant" to write "superhero" instead.
Mostly, Marvel has played off of the "wears a costume, must be a hero" thing a lot*, so people are generally okay with some heroes because they're obvious**. However, mutants don't wear a costume unless they're X-men. Humans being typically xenophobic about any perceived outside threat react pretty harshly. The fact that people in the universe treat one group differently than another isn't an example of an inconsistency, that's simply how racism works.
*most notably with Mar-Vell, who people just assumed was a new hero and not just a Kree wearing his normal uniform
**Spider-man and Daredevil being the general exceptions to that rule.
It tends to happen when mutant psychopaths and genocidal lunatics do that under their mutant cause.
Their leader? Reversed the Earths magnetic field. Twice. With horrifying consequences on a global scale.
Yeah, that's a reason to hate those specific mutants, not to hate all mutants. The regularly rehashed story was about mobs attacking people whose only mutation was a physical deformity, and then they went and made them into an entire mutant underground society that has to live away from people because they're the first targets when one other mutant does something wrong.
Granted, humans should be freaking out trying to figure out what the hell is causing mutation rather than focusing on just what are essentially the victims of mutation.
The x-gene?
Yes, but why is the x-gene suddenly so prominent and what are its origins
They used to go with the concept of the atomic age triggering the modern rash of mutations, but really, it's a mutation. By definition it's a random occurrence caused by damage to DNA. That's what mutation is.
Technically it all comes down to "Celestials" which is more or less the "Wizard did it" of Marvel.
Also the X-genes were made by a guy named "The Prober" so lets just understand that it's celestials all the way down and leave it at that.
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You know, if I saw it free of context, I'd assume it was Gamora.
Even though it's a fighting game trailer for her, her personality came across pretty clear and I loved her immediately.
Her winning quote against Deadpool is "If this game had come out in 1994 I'd be the one hitting you with the health bars."
Since this was bottom'd last page, I think it deserves more discussion. When I saw AoU last night (total of 8 people, 7 of which hadn't seen it yet), when this trailer came up it was pretty damn good to see in 3D. Maybe because it's effects heavy with the size shifting but the 3D seemed to work really well in the trailer, especially the shift before the train fight where the camera follows through the after-images of Lang as he shrinks down.
This might be the second movie I intentionally go see in 3D (first was Tron because I'm a fan and I liked the Wizard of Oz-esqe idea they had for its use in that movie).
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Terrible picture. How do I know it's not just a picture of the script for GOTG 1?
Also, I guess Marvel didn't have a single note to give Gunn about the script.
It's just the opening of the GotG1 and the opening of Up played in a loop for three hours.
That would make me Sad Max.....
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I warned everyone i was going to do it.....
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Well, shit.
The ONE TIME Latino Review is actually right.
I would have loved Statham as Bullseye but I also really like this super decisive Fuck You retribution to everyone who can't let simple meetings go without taking photos or DMing someone to stir the pot of clickbait.
Another random site then claims the "leak" killed the casting choice with just as little evidence (none).
Until I see something other than spurious claims this is all just clickbait.
My inside sources told me this is all a smokescreen and he's actually slated to play Vladimir in a Secret Avengers flick. Apparently this is the most physically taxing role of his career.
They're back ladies and gentlemen! We did it.
Take that was you will: http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/rumor-jason-statham-targeted-to-play-daredevils-bullseye
Website A posts a leak/rumor
Website B posts an update to the leak/rumor
Website C says it was all bullshit
I don't quite understand how they could be in the same comic universe, even. Doesn't having other people with superpowers running around without everyone hating them kind of break the thematic premise of the X-Men?
In a way, having the movie rights split up like they are is a preemptive bullet dodge.
Nah, it works fine.
Mutants are a random unknown factor that can absolutely breed with your family, possibly without you knowing before it's too late, and in doing so will slowly lead non-mutant humanity toward extinction.
Super Science/Magic characters can be limited by limiting access to the technology/magic.
Aliens are a different species and generally have their own planets or cannot breed with humans anyway.
Mutants arise spontaneously from your own population and basically use up your genetic resources.
Granted, humans should be freaking out trying to figure out what the hell is causing mutation rather than focusing on just what are essentially the victims of mutation.
The x-gene?
They're viewed as a secret potential source of danger by people. That's also the premise behind civil war, like that whole status quo for a while was about someone deciding that just including mutants in the mutant registration laws wasn't enough and crossing out "mutant" to write "superhero" instead.
Mostly, Marvel has played off of the "wears a costume, must be a hero" thing a lot*, so people are generally okay with some heroes because they're obvious**. However, mutants don't wear a costume unless they're X-men. Humans being typically xenophobic about any perceived outside threat react pretty harshly. The fact that people in the universe treat one group differently than another isn't an example of an inconsistency, that's simply how racism works.
*most notably with Mar-Vell, who people just assumed was a new hero and not just a Kree wearing his normal uniform
**Spider-man and Daredevil being the general exceptions to that rule.
Yes, but why is the x-gene suddenly so prominent and what are its origins and how do you manage and control it and etc.
It's some sort of super-science thing happening at random which has potentially solar system-ending consequences.
It totally is.
The two metaphors do not work together at all.
To be fair, the comics twenty years ago didn't have anywhere near the propensity to make an absurd number of mutants have a potentially world-ending level of power. Then the scope of things grew wildly out of control across a zillion different writers trying to play up everybody's favorite characters, but nobody can stay killed off. Then everybody got to be an omega-level mutant, and then everybody died or got depowered, and yada yada yada.
But when you've got a continuity that runs in circles for decades and permanent changes are almost never allowed, how else do you ratchet up the stakes but by making everything be about ending the world? It just wasn't something that the originators of the idea could have anticipated; for them, the X-gene was a tool for a sort of "it could happen to anyone" show of why things like prejudice are so arbitrary and stupid.
The bigotry is still horrible, but it's not *completely* unjustified, and that makes for so much more compelling stories.
Why would anyone not think Spider-man was a mutant? Or an Inhuman? Any super-hero who isn't up front about their origins, or isn't believed, would be open to be called a mutant. And that's not going into why Cap, and other Avengers, wouldn't step right in to defend mutant rights. It'd effect everything and everyone, and it's have a remarkably different tone the MCU has now.
It tends to happen when mutant psychopaths and genocidal lunatics do that under their mutant cause.
Their leader? Reversed the Earths magnetic field. Twice. With horrifying consequences on a global scale.
It would be nice if they did more stories about the other effects mutants could have on society, like having corporations and governments wanting to use mutants for political, scientific, military, economic, etc. purposes. Have a Weapon X type program that actually worked and is used by governments as special military or espionage forces. Have corporations hire mutants to use their powers to make money. Have different countries treat mutants differently. Maybe in the US, people are afraid of mutants and persecute them but in China, they're willing to pay mutants lots of money and treat them like royalty so they'd work for the government and businesses and use their powers to benefit the entire society.
(And Cyclops isn't dangerous he's the best he saves everyone because he's always right he's three Iron Mans put together)
There are various ways to do that - you don't need preachers to do this. Fox's movies didn't, Stryker was a preacher in the comics - in the movies he's switched to a general. There are various valid and irrational reasons why people would fear mutants and the Brotherhood of Mutants existence alone is enough to make rational people pee their shorts when they're in the same state. Magneto is a mid-tier mutant shitlord. That's not even going into dangerous mutants like Mr. Sinister or Apocalypse.
I see you haven't read the recent comics where he's on Magneto's side now and almost destroyed the world with the Pheonix to revitalize the mutant gene.
They used to go with the concept of the atomic age triggering the modern rash of mutations, but really, it's a mutation. By definition it's a random occurrence caused by damage to DNA. That's what mutation is.
Yeah, that's a reason to hate those specific mutants, not to hate all mutants. The regularly rehashed story was about mobs attacking people whose only mutation was a physical deformity, and then they went and made them into an entire mutant underground society that has to live away from people because they're the first targets when one other mutant does something wrong.
Technically it all comes down to "Celestials" which is more or less the "Wizard did it" of Marvel.
Also the X-genes were made by a guy named "The Prober" so lets just understand that it's celestials all the way down and leave it at that.