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Solium Infernum II: Hex Harder in Hell [Game On]

Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
edited June 2015 in Critical Failures
OP elements stolen shamelessly from a fantastic and sadly overlooked thread by @Capfalcon from many years back. I reckon his mistake was to go for G&T when despite being on the computer this is clearly more a CF type game.

My lord, I bring you fantastic news!

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Satan has abdicated the Throne of Hell.

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The entirety of the Infernal Conclave is scrambling to find a new monarch. Now is your moment, my lord. Seize what is rightfully yours.

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Marshal your legions to conquer your foes who foolish refuse your demands.

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Crush your pitiful rivals' champions in single combat.

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Hexes!

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On a dull work day I found myself somehow stumbling upon a write up of this game on Rock Paper Shotgun. It was frankly amazing. I suggest you go read it now . You only need to read the Kieron and Quinns bits and if that's too much reading for you, I won't lie this probably isn't the game for you.

Back with me?

Excited as all get out to give this a shot?

Let's do this!

A few points to bear in mind first however.

1) This game will cost you. 15 of your dollars to be precise. I have yet to buy it but if we can get a game going on the forum I definitely will.

2) This game will take some time. Play by email. Variable number of turns. We're talking weeks and weeks here most likely. If you're not in for the long haul then you're probably best not starting.

3) This game is rules deep. It has a large manual you will probably want to consult. Though wikis and tutorial pages exist on the game website.

So can I get at least three other interested parties involved?

Go on, be a Devil.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    The above is a direct copy of the OP from game one.

    Things we have since learned:

    This game is amazing!

    The long haul is really the long haul. (The last game took 10 months but turn times really slowed down toward the end) We'll probably choose short game length this time...

    The opening moves are very important, but not the be all and end all.

    This game takes some serious brain space as time goes on and the number of order slots you have to fill grows. Please be aware what you are taking on. Sure you can be dropped over to an AI player but that's always going to be a last resort.

    Given the sometimes large gaps between turns, keeping some basic notes is advised.

    Alerting anyone and everyone who ever posted in the last thread:

    @Capfalcon
    @kaorti
    @Auralynx
    @farangu
    @fadingathedges
    @TheOtherHorseman
    @MrBody
    @kaliyama
    @Smaug6
    @Phyphor
    @jakobagger

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    Sure, I would like to play. There'll be the odd week or two in the coming months where I am away from the internet for vacation-related reasons but I assume that's true of all of us?

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Indeed. No worries there.

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    AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    Though I'm not gonna play this time, I endorse this game. It's quite slow and indirect and for the long-game minded; playing on Short is probably a good idea.

    Also don't take Sloth and hope you can castle, or do it better than I did last game.

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    fadingathedgesfadingathedges Registered User regular
    Work + school still, but I hope you murder each other exquisitely.

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    *bumps*

    Not too promising so far, huh.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Sadly nay. A pity as I'm really keen to play again with real humans.

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    Sadly nay. A pity as I'm really keen to play again with real humans.

    YES ME TOO I AM A HUMAN WHO LIKES TO PLAY WITH HUMANS

    definitely

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    kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    Hi. I'm down to play.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    @kaliyama @jakobagger it's a minimum of four players in a game, but I'm down for trying three players with an AI if you are.

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    Sure.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    I'll give it a shot. Haven't played in 5 years.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Yessssssss.

    Can you all PM me your emails and I'll try and get things started tomorrow (UK) evening.

    I'm thinking we go short game length, small map size, default PoP frequency, random map type, infernal census on (prestige occasionally handed out for hexes controlled), expansion content on.

    Any other opinions on that please do say so.

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    BigBadWolfBigBadWolf Grandma's HouseRegistered User regular
    I don't suppose you've got room for one more? I've been wanting to play this since the RPS write-up but I've never managed to find anyone willing to play!

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Absolutely! Just PM me your email.

    Also waiting on @kaliyama

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Game set up file sent out. Let me know if you need any help with what to do with it, but it should all be in the manual.

    I strongly suggest you use your forum name as your fiend avatar name to make life easier. And if we want to coordinate different portraits, I went goat-face (number 13).

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    I'm claiming the succubus -looking one, with the fur coat. Number 9.

    It'll be a while at least before I've figured out the stats etc. though.

    Also, the manual is saying the file should end in .inv but mine ends in .sav?

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Whoops! Correct files sent. The.sav is for when we get going.

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    Ok I got the file loaded it and selected my avatar, but got a dialogue box with 'object missing' instead of the expected prompt to send a trn file. Clicked ok anyway.

    PA file is gone from the menu inside the game, and instead there's a new folder named PA2, which is as it should be (I think?). But there's no trn file inside that folder.

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    BigBadWolfBigBadWolf Grandma's HouseRegistered User regular
    jakobagger wrote: »
    Ok I got the file loaded it and selected my avatar, but got a dialogue box with 'object missing' instead of the expected prompt to send a trn file. Clicked ok anyway.

    PA file is gone from the menu inside the game, and instead there's a new folder named PA2, which is as it should be (I think?). But there's no trn file inside that folder.

    I was getting similar errors playing single player (badly!) if I tabbed out of the game and then clicked back into it. Their help forums seem to indicate that you can get problems if you regain focus by clicking within the game area - clicking on the title bar or taskbar icon to regain focus seems to prevent it.

    There's also apparently a bug where you get errors if your computer's been on too long. Try restarting your computer and seeing if that helps? Apparently its an issue with Adobe Designer rather than the game.

    If that doesn't help then I'm all out of suggestions!

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    BigBadWolf wrote: »
    jakobagger wrote: »
    Ok I got the file loaded it and selected my avatar, but got a dialogue box with 'object missing' instead of the expected prompt to send a trn file. Clicked ok anyway.

    PA file is gone from the menu inside the game, and instead there's a new folder named PA2, which is as it should be (I think?). But there's no trn file inside that folder.

    I was getting similar errors playing single player (badly!) if I tabbed out of the game and then clicked back into it. Their help forums seem to indicate that you can get problems if you regain focus by clicking within the game area - clicking on the title bar or taskbar icon to regain focus seems to prevent it.

    There's also apparently a bug where you get errors if your computer's been on too long. Try restarting your computer and seeing if that helps? Apparently its an issue with Adobe Designer rather than the game.

    If that doesn't help then I'm all out of suggestions!

    Being a bit more focused instead of constantly tabbing in and out of things fixed it. Or maybe it was the reboot, though I did already do one today.

    Also, looking at you guys' emails, I see someone likes Czech (?) fried cheese. I don't think I've ever gotten around to actually trying that but it's always fascinated me. Giving Scotland a run for their money in the race to develop the most heart attack-y food.

    Maybe I should have picked Gluttony.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Hmmm...I forgot that when that virus wiped out all my text, image, and video files, that my old Solium Infernum purchase key was one of those files. The 5 year old email is also gone. Going to have to contact the author and see if I can get the key.

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    AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    I think there's a windowed-mode launcher I was using. Didn't have any tab-out issues or loss-of-focus ones, running that.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Oh wow. Vic already got back to me with my old download and serial key! Will set this up today.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Are we playing with the expansion?

    Tip for new players: the biggest help I found with Avatar creation in regards to learning what the different attributes do, is to start a game, click on the Ministorum (or whatever the lower left button is called), click on Avatar, then click on "powers" in the lower left. You'll get a menu screen telling you exactly what each level of each attribute gives you.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Yup I turned the expansion on. More confusing options is more good!

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    So who else is paranoid that their avatar strategy is going to completely bomb?

    Doesn't seem much of the stuff balance wise has changed since five years ago. Some of the perks I can't imagine anyone ever taking (only 10 extra points for the crippling -1 orders?). But it's a lot better than pre version 1.05. Starting legion was determined solely by rank, so every single player always went with a charisma based Prince.

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    So who else is paranoid that their avatar strategy is going to completely bomb?

    Doesn't seem much of the stuff balance wise has changed since five years ago. Some of the perks I can't imagine anyone ever taking (only 10 extra points for the crippling -1 orders?). But it's a lot better than pre version 1.05. Starting legion was determined solely by rank, so every single player always went with a charisma based Prince.

    Yeah I uh...did not realize that wasn't how it worked any more, after reading a maybe antiquated strategy guide.

    So I'm all about charisma and rank. Hasn't been very impressive in the single player game I've been trying out. That might just as much be me not having learned the game at all yet, though.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Rank is still useful in regards to insults/demands, it's just not the automatic choice it was before.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    I've only had your two files in and they all get processed at once so you can do-over if you want.

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    jakobaggerjakobagger LO THY DREAD EMPIRE CHAOS IS RESTORED Registered User regular
    Nah it's fine, probably.

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    AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    So who else is paranoid that their avatar strategy is going to completely bomb?

    Doesn't seem much of the stuff balance wise has changed since five years ago. Some of the perks I can't imagine anyone ever taking (only 10 extra points for the crippling -1 orders?). But it's a lot better than pre version 1.05. Starting legion was determined solely by rank, so every single player always went with a charisma based Prince.

    We had several people spelling merrily away last game, and my "no, your spells don't do much," build was actually going fairly well; if I'd been more aggressive I think it'd have been fairly competitive.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Kaorti's 'I can nuke any unit off the map in a single turn' build was pretty terrifying.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    Builds I've seen:

    - All charisma
    - Starting Wickedness/Prophecy of 4 to get +1 order
    - All in starting legion by getting as many non-charisma points as possible

    I don't think any of the negative perks are worth it.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Still waiting on @BigBadWolf and @kaliyama

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    I sent a new start file.

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    BigBadWolfBigBadWolf Grandma's HouseRegistered User regular
    Oops! It was sat in my drafts folder... I've sent it now.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    kaliyama has gone radio silent. I've sent him a PM but as yet no reply. Come Friday if there's no response I'll start another game with just the four of us.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited June 2015
    And we're off!

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    Lake of Fire map, so there's a particularly tasty +1 order slot Place of Power at the centre of the map.

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    Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    Oh my, you're all lustful apart from me. Brawl on the mushroom!

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