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Oh the Huge Manatees!

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    they naturally tend to live in those kinds of places. they like shallow inland water.

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    they naturally tend to live in those kinds of places. they like shallow inland water.


    then why are they endangered?

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited January 2016
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    they naturally tend to live in those kinds of places. they like shallow inland water.


    then why are they endangered?

    because there used to not be laws and enforcement, and awareness of the problem

    no-wake is practically a cultural mandate now, at least on the waters i've been on

    they teach it to 2nd graders now

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    Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    they naturally tend to live in those kinds of places. they like shallow inland water.


    then why are they endangered?

    because there used to not be laws and enforcement, and awareness of the problem

    no-wake is practically a cultural mandate now, at least on the waters i've been on

    they teach it to 2nd graders now

    but aren't the laws and enforcements going away now? this is all very confusing.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    The laws and enforcements are staying the same, however there are lawmakers who have said that they will change the laws now that Manatees are now only threatened. So it's a bit up in the air at the moment and there's probably going to be a bit of a legal fight.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Seems like a causality problem. We've got laws in effect because they were endangered which is helping the population start to recover. So because they're starting to recover, people claim it's evidence they're no longer endangered, which will lead to the removal of the laws that are helping the population to recover. Sounds like some people at the core of this are either incredibly ignorant or kind of evil.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    there is no specific evidence of anything changing other than, I suppose, whatever the federal penalty is for tampering with a manatee

    but nobody goes around intentionally hurting manatees, and the speed laws in place are almost certainly not going away because they have multiple important purposes other than animals, and the penalties for violating them are already pretty severe

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    there is no specific evidence of anything changing other than, I suppose, whatever the federal penalty is for tampering with a manatee

    but nobody goes around intentionally hurting manatees, and the speed laws in place are almost certainly not going away because they have multiple important purposes other than animals, and the penalties for violating them are already pretty severe

    I mean, no, it's not like the instant they're off the list, they change a bunch of laws. But a barrier that would stand in the way of people removing those protections is now down. No one is going to be intentionally trying to fuck over manatees, but there are certainly people who view the laws as a nuisance or, worse, a financial impediment of some sort, who also don't give two shits about manatees, and those people now have more of a chance of doing something about that.

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    yay, manatees!

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