Holy crap, everyone. "Murphy Brown" is coming back into syndication next year. Which is incredibly shocking, given it's heavy use of copyrighted music and 80's topical humor.
CNN says it is "completely uncomfortable" with hacked emails showing former contributor and interim DNC chair Donna Brazile sharing questions with the Clinton campaign before a debate and a town hall during the Democratic primary, and has accepted her resignation.
Hacked emails posted by WikiLeaks show Brazile, whose CNN contract was suspended when she became interim DNC chair over the summer, sharing with the Clinton campaign a question that would be posed to Hillary Clinton before the March CNN Democratic debate in Flint, and sharing with the campaign a possible question prior to a CNN town hall also in March.
In a statement, CNN spokeswoman Lauren Pratapas said that on Oct. 14, the network accepted Brazile's resignation.
"On October 14th, CNN accepted Donna Brazile’s resignation as a CNN contributor. (Her deal had previously been suspended in July when she became the interim head of the DNC.) CNN never gave Brazile access to any questions, prep material, attendee list, background information or meetings in advance of a town hall or debate. We are completely uncomfortable with what we have learned about her interactions with the Clinton campaign while she was a CNN contributor," Pratapas said.
In a tweet, Brazile thanked CNN and her now former colleagues there.
"Thank you @CNN. Honored to be a Democratic Strategist and commentator on the network. Godspeed to all my former colleagues," she wrote.
So nebulous not even used question bad. Direct campaign shill you and Trump pay for? Perfectly fine.
Not going to argue that Lewandowski needs to go too, but you really don't see an issue with sharing debate question info to only one of the candidates and not all/none?
So nebulous not even used question bad. Direct campaign shill you and Trump pay for? Perfectly fine.
Not going to argue that Lewandowski needs to go too, but you really don't see an issue with sharing debate question info to only one of the candidates and not all/none?
She didn't even do that. Like this is acorn level bullshit alleging Brazil did something she didn't even do.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
So nebulous not even used question bad. Direct campaign shill you and Trump pay for? Perfectly fine.
Not going to argue that Lewandowski needs to go too, but you really don't see an issue with sharing debate question info to only one of the candidates and not all/none?
She didn't even do that. Like this is acorn level bullshit alleging Brazil did something she didn't even do.
I'm just going by the first link in the article TryCatcher shared, and if that's true, she did. If you are going to share a topic of a town hall question with a candidate, it should have been shared with both, or neither.
So nebulous not even used question bad. Direct campaign shill you and Trump pay for? Perfectly fine.
Not going to argue that Lewandowski needs to go too, but you really don't see an issue with sharing debate question info to only one of the candidates and not all/none?
She didn't even do that. Like this is acorn level bullshit alleging Brazil did something she didn't even do.
I'm just going by the first link in the article TryCatcher shared, and if that's true, she did. If you are going to share a topic of a town hall question with a candidate, it should have been shared with both, or neither.
"DEATH PENALTY 19 states and the District of Columbia have banned the death penalty. 31 states, including Ohio, still have the death penalty. According to the National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty, since 1973, 156 people have been on death row and later set free. Since 1976, 1,414 people have been executed in the U.S. That’s 11% of Americans who were sentenced to die, but later exonerated and freed. Should Ohio and the 30 other states join the current list and abolish the death penalty?"
Here's the question asked in the debate:
"Secretary Clinton, since 1976, we have executed 1,414 people in this country. Since 1973, 156 who were convicted have been exonerated from the death row. This gentleman here is one of them. This is Ricky Jackson, wrongfully convicted of murder in 1975, he spent 39 years in prison. He is undecided. Ricky, what is your question?" said TV One's Roland Martin, who co-moderated the town hall with CNN anchor Jake Tapper, before introducing questioner Ricky Jackson.
"As stated, I did spend 39 years of my life in prison for a crime of murder I did not commit, and it was only through heroic efforts of the Ohio Innocence Project at the University of Cincinnati that I was ultimately exonerated and am able to stand before you today," Jackson said. "I came perilously close to my own execution, and in light of that, what I have just shared with you and in light of the fact that there are documented cases of innocent people who have been executed in our country, I would like to know how can you still take your stance on the death penalty in light of what we know right now."
So, let's go ahead and assume the worst here. Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that Donna gave Hilldawg a heads up that there might have be a question about the Death Penalty in the next debate.
Who here is going to make the claim that Hillary didn't already have an answer to the question of "Death Penalty" prepared since, I dunno, the beginning of time and space?!
Gee, thanks Donna. You really saved Hillary's bacon on this one. No way she could have seen some variant of that question coming.
*edit* I mean, the only thing those two questions have in common is the cite the same "156" statistic and are about a really common issue.
On March 5, Brazile — then a CNN commentator and now the interim chair of the Democratic National Committee — emailed the Clinton campaign with details on a question regarding lead poisoning in Flint, Michigan, the location of the CNN debate to be held the next day.
“One of the questions directed to HRC tomorrow is from a woman with a rash,” Brazile wrote in a March 5 email to Clinton’s senior campaign aides. “Her family has lead poison and she will ask what, if anything, will Hillary do as president to help the ppl of Flint.”
The next night, a woman named Lee-Anne Walters asked both candidates that question.
“After my family, the city of Flint and the children in D.C. were poisoned by lead, will you make a personal promise to me right now that, as president, in your first 100 days in office, you will make it a requirement that all public water systems must remove all lead service lines throughout the entire United States, and notification made to the -- the citizens that have said service lines,” the town hall attendee asked.
The emails released Monday come on top of previous revelations that Brazile leaked details of a different question, this one about the death penalty, to the Clinton campaign before a March 13 CNN town hall featuring both Clinton and Sanders. On Monday, WikiLeaks published more of that thread, featuring a newly released reply in which Brazile promises to send additional questions.
“I’ll send a few more,” she wrote, adding “Though some questions Roland submitted.” The mention of ‘Roland’ is an apparent reference to CNN’s Roland Martin, who was among the hosts of the March 13 event.
Asked about lead poisoning at the March 6 event, Sanders said he would task the EPA with testing all water supplies around the country and repairing water infrastructure.
Clinton answered as well: “I agree completely. I want to go further though. I want us to have an absolute commitment to getting rid of lead wherever it is because it's not only in water systems, it's also in soil, and it's in lead paint that is found mostly in older homes. That's why 500,000 children today have lead -- lead in their bodies,” she said. “So, I want to do exactly what you said. We will commit to a priority to change the water systems, and we will commit within five years to remove lead from everywhere.”
In her email, Brazile indicated that Flint was an important personal cause. “Folks, I did a service project today. It's so tragic. And what's worse, some homes have not been tested and it's important to encourage seniors to also get tested,” she said.
A CNN employee suggested that Brazile may have met the woman who was set to ask the question at the service project she references in the email, but it’s not clear if the person was Walters or someone else.
Shortly after news of the most recent Brazile emails posted, CNN announced they were “completely uncomfortable” to have learned Brazile had shared questions from their events, and had officially severed ties with Brazile, whose contract was suspended while Brazile acted as interim DNC chair.
"On October 14th, CNN accepted Donna Brazile’s resignation as a CNN contributor. (Her deal had previously been suspended in July when she became the interim head of the DNC.) CNN never gave Brazile access to any questions, prep material, attendee list, background information or meetings in advance of a town hall or debate. We are completely uncomfortable with what we have learned about her interactions with the Clinton campaign while she was a CNN contributor,” CNN said in a statement.
Martin did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
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She shouldn't have done if. If not because it's wrong but also because "what are you going to do for me" is the most obvious question in the history of questions.
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She shouldn't have done if. If not because it's wrong but also because "what are you going to do for me" is the most obvious question in the history of questions.
Yeah, I'm not arguing that it helped Hillary in any way whatsoever, just that it's not something a journalist should have done.
CNN gets no respect from me for this firing. Brazille does this while she's not even on CNN contract, but they think it harms their integrity enough that when I they find out later they ask her to resign.
On the other hand, they HIRE A GUY BEING PAID BY TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN STILL AT THE TIME and leave him on staff all through the election season, despite confirmed sightings of him meeting with Trump backstage at rallies, etc.
I can't be mad about Brazille. Should she have forwarded those questions? I can't even answer that question. Did her contract with CNN forbid it or not? Was there some expectation that the questions need to be secret? If so, who was giving the information to Donna, and when are they being fired?
As far as ethical questions go, this is a big fat *shrug*, especially when CNN still has misleading headlines about Comeygate and Corey Fucking Lewandowski on the payroll. They don't get to take the moral high ground unless they're planning on cleaning house.
My problem with CNN and all non-Fox American news networks is that they hire Team Blue and Team Red to repeat talking points at each other and pretend to be people worth listening to. The fuck I want to watch that for? Never will anyone say something worth a damn. So fire Brazile's ass or don't, it's still the same shitty format filled with worthless hacks.
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My problem with CNN and all non-Fox American news networks is that they hire Team Blue and Team Red to repeat talking points at each other and pretend to be people worth listening to. The fuck I want to watch that for? Never will anyone say something worth a damn. So fire Brazile's ass or don't, it's still the same shitty format filled with worthless hacks.
My problem with CNN and all non-Fox American news networks is that they hire Team Blue and Team Red to repeat talking points at each other and pretend to be people worth listening to. The fuck I want to watch that for? Never will anyone say something worth a damn. So fire Brazile's ass or don't, it's still the same shitty format filled with worthless hacks.
I concur. I am not sure real time with bill maher became the format for all news programs but it is super annoying. It is really hard to just turn on CNN as back ground like I used to because it is all just talking heads spouting talking points at each other non stop and spouting the utterest of nonsense back and forth.
My problem with CNN and all non-Fox American news networks is that they hire Team Blue and Team Red to repeat talking points at each other and pretend to be people worth listening to. The fuck I want to watch that for? Never will anyone say something worth a damn. So fire Brazile's ass or don't, it's still the same shitty format filled with worthless hacks.
I concur. I am not sure real time with bill maher became the format for all news programs but it is super annoying. It is really hard to just turn on CNN as back ground like I used to because it is all just talking heads spouting talking points at each other non stop and spouting the utterest of nonsense back and forth.
Bill Maher wasn't first. The McLaughlin Group was there before that. And I bet the format probably grew out of the old point/counterpoint segments news broadcasts used to have.
Journalists James Fallows and ex-McLaughlin panelist Jack Germond opined that the show gloried too much in sensationalism and simplification, to the detriment of serious journalism. Ronald Reagan, while in office as U.S. president, once referred to McLaughlin and his group as taking the traditional Sunday morning talk show format of a moderator with a group of journalists and turning it into "a political version of Animal House."
It only went off the air two months ago.
Roundtable formats became the norm because they're cheap and easy. It's much easier to fill 24 hours with pontification than it is with information.
It is an incredibly easy format to setup for any possible topic, there is no actual thought put into anything just insert Side A Opinion Spokesperson versus Side B Opinion Spokesperson with no value determination on either the Options being stated or the Ability of said Spokesperson to support it.
They have pumped Cheap and Fast forgetting the 3rd point of the triangle exists.
Talking heads arose as a major time filler at the same time that CNN and other major networks started closing foreign bureaus and laying off investigative journalists. Once the execs figured out that they could cut costs massively without losing audience share by filling their airtime with "experts" and reports sourced from local news/the Internet, it was all downhill from there.
I remember when CNN was primarily 30-minute blocks of reporting alternated with the occasional half-hour show like Crossfire. They'd break in for big stories, but the majority of the time was filled with reported segments. The only time you had commentary was during major events, and it would be stuff like a panel of generals explaining what was happening in a major battle in the war at the time.
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...called Sean Hannity.
Coverage of what?
Issues. Like actual policy.
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Love how they have a pic of Hillary looking at him like she's going to light him on fire.
...oh fuck y'all, Clan Murdoch.
Shut it all down, we're done here.
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"Stroking gun".
"Sext probe".
If nothing else, whoever did that cover had a ton of fun doing it.
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For those who are too young to remember, "Murphy Brown" was basically "The Newsroom" in sitcom form.
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Now we will truly see whether Hillary Clinton has an elite cadre of assassins on hand.
Not going to argue that Lewandowski needs to go too, but you really don't see an issue with sharing debate question info to only one of the candidates and not all/none?
She didn't even do that. Like this is acorn level bullshit alleging Brazil did something she didn't even do.
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I'm just going by the first link in the article TryCatcher shared, and if that's true, she did. If you are going to share a topic of a town hall question with a candidate, it should have been shared with both, or neither.
Quoting myself from an older Pres Election Thread
That seems like a lot of very specific information that she had no business sharing.
Edit: this isn't a question of how much it helped Hillary, if at all, it's a matter of it being incredibly unprofessional on Brazile's part.
She shouldn't have done if. If not because it's wrong but also because "what are you going to do for me" is the most obvious question in the history of questions.
Yeah, I'm not arguing that it helped Hillary in any way whatsoever, just that it's not something a journalist should have done.
On the other hand, they HIRE A GUY BEING PAID BY TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN STILL AT THE TIME and leave him on staff all through the election season, despite confirmed sightings of him meeting with Trump backstage at rallies, etc.
CNN is a joke
I came to post my opinion in this thread, I'm not calling anyone out or anything
As far as ethical questions go, this is a big fat *shrug*, especially when CNN still has misleading headlines about Comeygate and Corey Fucking Lewandowski on the payroll. They don't get to take the moral high ground unless they're planning on cleaning house.
Relegating politics down to a spectator sport.
It's truly awful now.
I concur. I am not sure real time with bill maher became the format for all news programs but it is super annoying. It is really hard to just turn on CNN as back ground like I used to because it is all just talking heads spouting talking points at each other non stop and spouting the utterest of nonsense back and forth.
Bill Maher wasn't first. The McLaughlin Group was there before that. And I bet the format probably grew out of the old point/counterpoint segments news broadcasts used to have.
It only went off the air two months ago.
Roundtable formats became the norm because they're cheap and easy. It's much easier to fill 24 hours with pontification than it is with information.
They have pumped Cheap and Fast forgetting the 3rd point of the triangle exists.
I remember when CNN was primarily 30-minute blocks of reporting alternated with the occasional half-hour show like Crossfire. They'd break in for big stories, but the majority of the time was filled with reported segments. The only time you had commentary was during major events, and it would be stuff like a panel of generals explaining what was happening in a major battle in the war at the time.
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right?
Fuuuuuuuuuuck off.