the 1060 is $250 MSRP, the 960 launched at $200 MSRP
The 1070 is $379 MSRP, the 970 launched at $300 MSRP
The 1080 is $650 MSRP, the 980 launched at $550 MSRP
And this doesn't include the founders edition Tax.
The Titan X is $1200, the previous gen Titan X was $1000. I barely count it because it's not a mass market card, but the increase is there too.
I'm not sure how anyone can say that nVidida didn't increase prices for this round, even before you take supply shortages into account.
You're comparing a super lackluster generation to a hugely well regarded one. Each of these cards punches well above its weight and is more directly comparable to the prior gen card one or two steps up in the hierarchy. Additionally, only the 9XX series was priced this low (again, mostly because it was a lackluster update over the 7XX series), so this is much more a regression to the mean, and you're still getting a much better deal for your money than the 9XX series offered.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
I just better be able to find a RX 480 for $240 by Christmas!
The 4GB (which is actually 8GB) RX 480 for $200 is such a stupid good deal. As much as I shy away from the very idea of reference cards I would have grabbed one of those in a heartbeat if I could have gotten my grubby little hands on one. $240 is still a really good deal, but being $10 away from a 1060 makes the decision significantly less cut and dry. Normally I could just wait and see how the aftermarket 480s stack up with the 1060s but my 280x is dying so I'm sort of under an invisible time limit.
I'm just afraid that my choice is basically going to be "1060 for DX11/OpenGL or 480 for DX12/Vulkan" and then we're back in the 90s again when we had the OpenGL/3DFX divide and you had to look at what games you were playing and what they supported before buying a GPU.
I'm kinda worried that Nvidia is going to just stomp async compute and Vulkan into the ground under the heavy boot they call Gameworks and we'll be looking at tesselationgate 2.0 over the next couple of years.
is this a good choice/price for a 1440/144Hz monitor?
It's a TN panel and the A01 version had bad issues. Seems to have been fixed in A02 version. I think the main reason this is half the price of a Acer Predator or ROG Swift is that it's a TN panel vice IPS.
Assuming you don't mind TN panels and you can get a A02 or A03 (maybe BB will let you open the box in the store if you do in-store pickup?), it's a pretty good price.
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I just better be able to find a RX 480 for $240 by Christmas!
The 4GB (which is actually 8GB) RX 480 for $200 is such a stupid good deal. As much as I shy away from the very idea of reference cards I would have grabbed one of those in a heartbeat if I could have gotten my grubby little hands on one. $240 is still a really good deal, but being $10 away from a 1060 makes the decision significantly less cut and dry. Normally I could just wait and see how the aftermarket 480s stack up with the 1060s but my 280x is dying so I'm sort of under an invisible time limit.
I'm just afraid that my choice is basically going to be "1060 for DX11/OpenGL or 480 for DX12/Vulkan" and then we're back in the 90s again when we had the OpenGL/3DFX divide and you had to look at what games you were playing and what they supported before buying a GPU.
I'm kinda worried that Nvidia is going to just stomp async compute and Vulkan into the ground under the heavy boot they call Gameworks and we'll be looking at tesselationgate 2.0 over the next couple of years.
Nvidia crushing aysnc before it gets a fair go would be terrible, but sadly plausible.
On the upside, there's been a few high profile instances of devs gushing about it* so I think things are safe for now.
*(eg one of the head DICE fellas said a while back that if he could make the base system requirements for this year's autumn release DX12 he'd do it in a heartbeat, but it's not feasible yet
I might have put in an order for a Sapphire Nitro RX480 so we'll see when that turns up, kind of excited to get a fresh video tech, everything else I've had has been a re-working of an older chip so getting in on the ground floor is new territory for me.
I just better be able to find a RX 480 for $240 by Christmas!
The 4GB (which is actually 8GB) RX 480 for $200 is such a stupid good deal. As much as I shy away from the very idea of reference cards I would have grabbed one of those in a heartbeat if I could have gotten my grubby little hands on one. $240 is still a really good deal, but being $10 away from a 1060 makes the decision significantly less cut and dry. Normally I could just wait and see how the aftermarket 480s stack up with the 1060s but my 280x is dying so I'm sort of under an invisible time limit.
I'm just afraid that my choice is basically going to be "1060 for DX11/OpenGL or 480 for DX12/Vulkan" and then we're back in the 90s again when we had the OpenGL/3DFX divide and you had to look at what games you were playing and what they supported before buying a GPU.
I'm kinda worried that Nvidia is going to just stomp async compute and Vulkan into the ground under the heavy boot they call Gameworks and we'll be looking at tesselationgate 2.0 over the next couple of years.
Actually 8 you say? Have a link or want to explain that? I don't need 8 at all, but I'll probably get it anyway and first I've heard 4 is actually 8. Cheaper is better if that's true.
Actually 8 you say? Have a link or want to explain that? I don't need 8 at all, but I'll probably get it anyway and first I've heard 4 is actually 8. Cheaper is better if that's true.
The first release of 4GB reference 480s were just 8GB cards with half of the VRAM locked by the BIOS. You can reflash the BIOS from an 8GB 480 to get access to the extra 4GB of VRAM.
I'm not sure if they changed that/done a new revision or not yet, but it's the other reason (outside of price) why the 4GB cards have been selling out so quickly.
Actually 8 you say? Have a link or want to explain that? I don't need 8 at all, but I'll probably get it anyway and first I've heard 4 is actually 8. Cheaper is better if that's true.
The first release of 4GB reference 480s were just 8GB cards with half of the VRAM locked by the BIOS. You can reflash the BIOS from an 8GB 480 to get access to the extra 4GB of VRAM.
I'm not sure if they changed that/done a new revision or not yet, but it's the other reason (outside of price) why the 4GB cards have been selling out so quickly.
I feel like that cannot last. It'd be nice if it did, but it cannot.
Actually 8 you say? Have a link or want to explain that? I don't need 8 at all, but I'll probably get it anyway and first I've heard 4 is actually 8. Cheaper is better if that's true.
The first release of 4GB reference 480s were just 8GB cards with half of the VRAM locked by the BIOS. You can reflash the BIOS from an 8GB 480 to get access to the extra 4GB of VRAM.
I'm not sure if they changed that/done a new revision or not yet, but it's the other reason (outside of price) why the 4GB cards have been selling out so quickly.
I feel like that cannot last. It'd be nice if it did, but it cannot.
You'd be surprised.
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It's possible, but the 4GB boxes are just 8GB boxes with a 4GB sticker slapped on them, and supposedly when they were showing off the cards before release to people in the industry they were just using one card and switching BIOSes back and forth, so who knows.
Could be binning, could just be that it's cheaper to just build 8GB cards and adjust supply between 4GB and 8GB at retail as needed than setup two different manufacturing chains.
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Could be binning, could just be that it's cheaper to just build 8GB cards and adjust supply between 4GB and 8GB at retail as needed than setup two different manufacturing chains.
Odds are it's a good bit of both.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
Found this on the WCCFtech website, MSRP's have typically hovered around the $350 range, and we were spoiled with a $299 MSRP on the 970. Taking the current price gouging due to high demand / low volume out of the equation, I don't think the MSRP pricing has been out of whack, especially if you consider how long the price has been stagnant and not been increasing with inflation. Something had to break the cycle, and it was likely the ultra performance on the 10xx series cards that emboldened them to seek a higher price.
The Titan series cards have always been $Texas, and will continue to shock and awe forevermore.
MSRP for the GTX 970 was $329, not $299 at launch.
WCCFtech is NOT a reliable site for gpu news. Even recently they reported Polaris would launch in April, that the RX480 would rival the Fury X at launch and could easily be overclocked to over 1.5ghz, and that the GTX 1060 would come with a 256bit memory bus. It's not surprising that they can't even correctly quote a launch price.
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The Samsung 4K monitor I bought on eBay turned out, predictably enough, to be a bust--it was far from "like new" (scratches all over the bezel, some paint worn off on the stand, electrical tape over the LED light weirdly enough). Going to begin the eBay return process (since the seller marked it as no returns--my fault for going with the auction considering the seller posted no photographs either).
In the meantime, time to find a good new monitor on Amazon.com. I really want to test my GTX 1080 on something besides my living room television.
Actually 8 you say? Have a link or want to explain that? I don't need 8 at all, but I'll probably get it anyway and first I've heard 4 is actually 8. Cheaper is better if that's true.
The first release of 4GB reference 480s were just 8GB cards with half of the VRAM locked by the BIOS. You can reflash the BIOS from an 8GB 480 to get access to the extra 4GB of VRAM.
I'm not sure if they changed that/done a new revision or not yet, but it's the other reason (outside of price) why the 4GB cards have been selling out so quickly.
I feel like that cannot last. It'd be nice if it did, but it cannot.
don't underestimate the power of a single assembly line. way cheaper to differentiate the cards in software than have a separate line creating a separate card just for a few cents worth of video memory hardware per card.
Actually 8 you say? Have a link or want to explain that? I don't need 8 at all, but I'll probably get it anyway and first I've heard 4 is actually 8. Cheaper is better if that's true.
The first release of 4GB reference 480s were just 8GB cards with half of the VRAM locked by the BIOS. You can reflash the BIOS from an 8GB 480 to get access to the extra 4GB of VRAM.
I'm not sure if they changed that/done a new revision or not yet, but it's the other reason (outside of price) why the 4GB cards have been selling out so quickly.
I feel like that cannot last. It'd be nice if it did, but it cannot.
don't underestimate the power of a single assembly line. way cheaper to differentiate the cards in software than have a separate line creating a separate card just for a few cents worth of video memory hardware per card.
True. I imagine they'd be more vigilant about pushing back against the BIOS change, but I have no idea how that'd work.
The Samsung 4K monitor I bought on eBay turned out, predictably enough, to be a bust--it was far from "like new" (scratches all over the bezel, some paint worn off on the stand, electrical tape over the LED light weirdly enough). Going to begin the eBay return process (since the seller marked it as no returns--my fault for going with the auction considering the seller posted no photographs either).
In the meantime, time to find a good new monitor on Amazon.com. I really want to test my GTX 1080 on something besides my living room television.
You folks buy hardware used?
That seems like a spectacularly bad thing 95% of the time.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
The Samsung 4K monitor I bought on eBay turned out, predictably enough, to be a bust--it was far from "like new" (scratches all over the bezel, some paint worn off on the stand, electrical tape over the LED light weirdly enough). Going to begin the eBay return process (since the seller marked it as no returns--my fault for going with the auction considering the seller posted no photographs either).
In the meantime, time to find a good new monitor on Amazon.com. I really want to test my GTX 1080 on something besides my living room television.
You folks buy hardware used?
That seems like a spectacularly bad thing 95% of the time.
Us folks took "Like new" at its word. :?
Given that the penalties on eBay towards sellers are even hilariously disproportionate, it wasn't that big a gamble. More of an inconvenience. I went ahead and began the return process.
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Actually 8 you say? Have a link or want to explain that? I don't need 8 at all, but I'll probably get it anyway and first I've heard 4 is actually 8. Cheaper is better if that's true.
The first release of 4GB reference 480s were just 8GB cards with half of the VRAM locked by the BIOS. You can reflash the BIOS from an 8GB 480 to get access to the extra 4GB of VRAM.
I'm not sure if they changed that/done a new revision or not yet, but it's the other reason (outside of price) why the 4GB cards have been selling out so quickly.
I feel like that cannot last. It'd be nice if it did, but it cannot.
don't underestimate the power of a single assembly line. way cheaper to differentiate the cards in software than have a separate line creating a separate card just for a few cents worth of video memory hardware per card.
True. I imagine they'd be more vigilant about pushing back against the BIOS change, but I have no idea how that'd work.
you underestimate how little they give a shit
they make no guarantees that the cards will be unlockable, and they don't lose anything if you get lucky and your 4GB turns out to have been just fine to bin for 8GB. In the mean time prices skyrocket for 4GB cards because people want to roll the dice.
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Actually 8 you say? Have a link or want to explain that? I don't need 8 at all, but I'll probably get it anyway and first I've heard 4 is actually 8. Cheaper is better if that's true.
The first release of 4GB reference 480s were just 8GB cards with half of the VRAM locked by the BIOS. You can reflash the BIOS from an 8GB 480 to get access to the extra 4GB of VRAM.
I'm not sure if they changed that/done a new revision or not yet, but it's the other reason (outside of price) why the 4GB cards have been selling out so quickly.
I feel like that cannot last. It'd be nice if it did, but it cannot.
don't underestimate the power of a single assembly line. way cheaper to differentiate the cards in software than have a separate line creating a separate card just for a few cents worth of video memory hardware per card.
True. I imagine they'd be more vigilant about pushing back against the BIOS change, but I have no idea how that'd work.
you underestimate how little they give a shit
they make no guarantees that the cards will be unlockable, and they don't lose anything if you get lucky and your 4GB turns out to have been just fine to bin for 8GB. In the mean time prices skyrocket for 4GB cards because people want to roll the dice.
IIRC they have said that if you fuck your card attempting a BIOS change then you are SOL when it comes to warranty coverage though. But yeah, they've not attempted to debunk the rumours (or facts in some cases). To be fair, most people who are going to be both A) on the pulse enough to know about it and B)Savvy/Crazy enough to attempt it are also those that are less likely to give a shit about warranties anyway, but still.
The Samsung 4K monitor I bought on eBay turned out, predictably enough, to be a bust--it was far from "like new" (scratches all over the bezel, some paint worn off on the stand, electrical tape over the LED light weirdly enough). Going to begin the eBay return process (since the seller marked it as no returns--my fault for going with the auction considering the seller posted no photographs either).
In the meantime, time to find a good new monitor on Amazon.com. I really want to test my GTX 1080 on something besides my living room television.
You folks buy hardware used?
That seems like a spectacularly bad thing 95% of the time.
My current rig, I bought the Mobo used. Everything else was new or got carried over.
The Samsung 4K monitor I bought on eBay turned out, predictably enough, to be a bust--it was far from "like new" (scratches all over the bezel, some paint worn off on the stand, electrical tape over the LED light weirdly enough). Going to begin the eBay return process (since the seller marked it as no returns--my fault for going with the auction considering the seller posted no photographs either).
In the meantime, time to find a good new monitor on Amazon.com. I really want to test my GTX 1080 on something besides my living room television.
You folks buy hardware used?
That seems like a spectacularly bad thing 95% of the time.
Funny you should say 95%, because these used Xeon E5-2670 CPUs I'm looking at are going for 95% less on ebay than they cost in retail.
The Samsung 4K monitor I bought on eBay turned out, predictably enough, to be a bust--it was far from "like new" (scratches all over the bezel, some paint worn off on the stand, electrical tape over the LED light weirdly enough). Going to begin the eBay return process (since the seller marked it as no returns--my fault for going with the auction considering the seller posted no photographs either).
In the meantime, time to find a good new monitor on Amazon.com. I really want to test my GTX 1080 on something besides my living room television.
You folks buy hardware used?
That seems like a spectacularly bad thing 95% of the time.
Funny you should say 95%, because these used Xeon E5-2670 CPUs I'm looking at are going for 95% less on ebay than they cost in retail.
At that point, who cares about warranty ;-)
zero chance those are xeon parts, almost zero chance it isn't even an intel part.
Having the RX480 hit at $200 and the GTX 1060 hit at $250 is awesome for people who buy used stuff anyway, since once supply stabilizes on the new GPUs the secondhand price for R9 series AMD cards and 900 series Nvidia cards is going to drop like a rock.
Buying used AMD GPUs hasn't really been a super great idea over the past couple of years due to so many of them being ran at 100% power for months at a time in cryptocurrency mining rigs, but other than that there's nothing wrong with buying used hardware as long as you're ok with sacrificing a warranty for the reduction in price.
I feel like an idiot but is 3840 x 2160 16:9? I currently have a 21:9 Ultra Wide monitor but I'm getting sick of not every game supporting 21:9.
Also on that same note I have 980 SLI's.. at one point should I upgrade? The only card I think would be worth my while is a 1080 but been doing a lot of reading and it looks like 980 SLI and 1080s are about on par with eachother
I feel like an idiot but is 3840 x 2160 16:9? I currently have a 21:9 Ultra Wide monitor but I'm getting sick of not every game supporting 21:9.
Also on that same note I have 980 SLI's.. at one point should I upgrade? The only card I think would be worth my while is a 1080 but been doing a lot of reading and it looks like 980 SLI and 1080s are about on par with eachother
Thanks guys
There is no reason to upgrade from SLI'd 980s yet, even for 4K. I'd imagine there will be an 1180 next year that would make more sense for you.
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Found this on the WCCFtech website, MSRP's have typically hovered around the $350 range, and we were spoiled with a $299 MSRP on the 970. Taking the current price gouging due to high demand / low volume out of the equation, I don't think the MSRP pricing has been out of whack, especially if you consider how long the price has been stagnant and not been increasing with inflation. Something had to break the cycle, and it was likely the ultra performance on the 10xx series cards that emboldened them to seek a higher price.
The Titan series cards have always been $Texas, and will continue to shock and awe forevermore.
MSRP for the GTX 970 was $329, not $299 at launch.
WCCFtech is NOT a reliable site for gpu news. Even recently they reported Polaris would launch in April, that the RX480 would rival the Fury X at launch and could easily be overclocked to over 1.5ghz, and that the GTX 1060 would come with a 256bit memory bus. It's not surprising that they can't even correctly quote a launch price.
I'll admit I don't keep my ear that close to the ground with each individual news website, but I thought I could trust a website to at least list MSRP correctly. Evidently that was wrong, so I apologize. I only used it as an aggregate so I wouldn't be posting individual links.
I think my original point stands though.
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I got my Noctua NF-A14s today. Amazingly very loud at 2000rpm, but went dead quiet when I switched them from DC to PWM. No bright red LEDs out the front anymore!
When I put in the final intake fan on the bottom of the case, I'll post final build pics.
My Acer S277HK came in today. I have to say, I wish I went with this sooner and avoided eBay entirely. Unusual stand aside, it's a beauty of a IPS monitor.
I've mostly made the switch over to 4K. A few games I have lack UI scaling, but I have to say I'm really, really happy with it. Unsurprisingly, even with a GTX 1080 Skyrim still can't hit 60 FPS consistently in areas with lots of NPCs (then again, that's a CPU dependent game with an obscene number of graphical mods). I don't know if I'm ever getting into VR, but doubling your width and height resolution (and increasing your monitor from 23" to 27") makes an appreciable difference.
Once I get a proper 10 ft DIsplayport cable (my gaming case sits at the other side of the right-corner desk from my monitor), I'll be able to put it a proper distance from my eyes.
Hows general desktop usage? I've heard 4k isnt exactly the best for that kind of experience.
Unless your objective is to go blind in 2 years, probably not without changing your settings.
Both Windows 8 and Windows 10 have some basic scaling functionality. That, combined with changing text, apps, etc. size to 200%, actually makes it completely usable. Normal "desktop" apps are more likely to have issue (for example, Photoshop CC was unusable--fortunately, it has a setting that doubles UI size elements), whereas Windows 10 apps always scale accordingly.
A lot of games simply don't have UI scaling, which is more problematic.
yea apps have to be built with UI scaling in mind for it to work well. You see a lot of older apps look super fuzzy on a 4k screen with scaling on. And if you don't scale all the UI elements look like their about a quarter inch in size.
It honestly depends on what your day to day is. If most everything you use has good scaling, You'll probably fine. But if you spend 6 hours a day in an app that doesn't you're going to hate yourself.
In my case I'm not doing anything like rendering, spreadsheets, or the like, so the objective is to recreate the 1080p sizes of various desktop elements on a bigger, denser screen (which is admittedly kind of wasteful on my part).
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" We are emailing you today as we have had some information from ASUS Regarding the [Strix] that you have on pre-order with us.
They have informed us that there is still going to be a very short supply
of cards for some time and they have sent to us a OC STRIX CARD with a
more realistic clock speed than the card you currently have on order.
So If you are interested in changing over to this other card, please
contact etc etc... however if you are still happy to wait that is not a problem."
I will actually only pay £619 whatever I get because that was the price at time of reservation, but what do you folks think I ought to do?
The ambiguity is whether the original Strix with its 1784 clock will now ever land. I'm tempted to go for the G1 after all but will I be short changing myself? If relevant, I am particularly interested in sound performance. I am confident these cards can run at max, but I want max and quiet, because I am a demanding bugger.
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You're comparing a super lackluster generation to a hugely well regarded one. Each of these cards punches well above its weight and is more directly comparable to the prior gen card one or two steps up in the hierarchy. Additionally, only the 9XX series was priced this low (again, mostly because it was a lackluster update over the 7XX series), so this is much more a regression to the mean, and you're still getting a much better deal for your money than the 9XX series offered.
The 4GB (which is actually 8GB) RX 480 for $200 is such a stupid good deal. As much as I shy away from the very idea of reference cards I would have grabbed one of those in a heartbeat if I could have gotten my grubby little hands on one. $240 is still a really good deal, but being $10 away from a 1060 makes the decision significantly less cut and dry. Normally I could just wait and see how the aftermarket 480s stack up with the 1060s but my 280x is dying so I'm sort of under an invisible time limit.
I'm just afraid that my choice is basically going to be "1060 for DX11/OpenGL or 480 for DX12/Vulkan" and then we're back in the 90s again when we had the OpenGL/3DFX divide and you had to look at what games you were playing and what they supported before buying a GPU.
I'm kinda worried that Nvidia is going to just stomp async compute and Vulkan into the ground under the heavy boot they call Gameworks and we'll be looking at tesselationgate 2.0 over the next couple of years.
It's a TN panel and the A01 version had bad issues. Seems to have been fixed in A02 version. I think the main reason this is half the price of a Acer Predator or ROG Swift is that it's a TN panel vice IPS.
Assuming you don't mind TN panels and you can get a A02 or A03 (maybe BB will let you open the box in the store if you do in-store pickup?), it's a pretty good price.
Nvidia crushing aysnc before it gets a fair go would be terrible, but sadly plausible.
On the upside, there's been a few high profile instances of devs gushing about it* so I think things are safe for now.
*(eg one of the head DICE fellas said a while back that if he could make the base system requirements for this year's autumn release DX12 he'd do it in a heartbeat, but it's not feasible yet
I might have put in an order for a Sapphire Nitro RX480 so we'll see when that turns up, kind of excited to get a fresh video tech, everything else I've had has been a re-working of an older chip so getting in on the ground floor is new territory for me.
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Actually 8 you say? Have a link or want to explain that? I don't need 8 at all, but I'll probably get it anyway and first I've heard 4 is actually 8. Cheaper is better if that's true.
The first release of 4GB reference 480s were just 8GB cards with half of the VRAM locked by the BIOS. You can reflash the BIOS from an 8GB 480 to get access to the extra 4GB of VRAM.
I'm not sure if they changed that/done a new revision or not yet, but it's the other reason (outside of price) why the 4GB cards have been selling out so quickly.
I feel like that cannot last. It'd be nice if it did, but it cannot.
Yow, didn't think they'd release the titan that fast. Wonder how far out the ti is.
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You'd be surprised.
Well, that's half the idea behind binning in the first place. If your 8gb chip is faulty on half its memory there's no reason not to sell it as a 4GB.
Could be binning, could just be that it's cheaper to just build 8GB cards and adjust supply between 4GB and 8GB at retail as needed than setup two different manufacturing chains.
Odds are it's a good bit of both.
MSRP for the GTX 970 was $329, not $299 at launch.
WCCFtech is NOT a reliable site for gpu news. Even recently they reported Polaris would launch in April, that the RX480 would rival the Fury X at launch and could easily be overclocked to over 1.5ghz, and that the GTX 1060 would come with a 256bit memory bus. It's not surprising that they can't even correctly quote a launch price.
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In the meantime, time to find a good new monitor on Amazon.com. I really want to test my GTX 1080 on something besides my living room television.
don't underestimate the power of a single assembly line. way cheaper to differentiate the cards in software than have a separate line creating a separate card just for a few cents worth of video memory hardware per card.
True. I imagine they'd be more vigilant about pushing back against the BIOS change, but I have no idea how that'd work.
You folks buy hardware used?
That seems like a spectacularly bad thing 95% of the time.
Us folks took "Like new" at its word. :?
Given that the penalties on eBay towards sellers are even hilariously disproportionate, it wasn't that big a gamble. More of an inconvenience. I went ahead and began the return process.
you underestimate how little they give a shit
they make no guarantees that the cards will be unlockable, and they don't lose anything if you get lucky and your 4GB turns out to have been just fine to bin for 8GB. In the mean time prices skyrocket for 4GB cards because people want to roll the dice.
IIRC they have said that if you fuck your card attempting a BIOS change then you are SOL when it comes to warranty coverage though. But yeah, they've not attempted to debunk the rumours (or facts in some cases). To be fair, most people who are going to be both A) on the pulse enough to know about it and B)Savvy/Crazy enough to attempt it are also those that are less likely to give a shit about warranties anyway, but still.
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My current rig, I bought the Mobo used. Everything else was new or got carried over.
Funny you should say 95%, because these used Xeon E5-2670 CPUs I'm looking at are going for 95% less on ebay than they cost in retail.
At that point, who cares about warranty ;-)
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zero chance those are xeon parts, almost zero chance it isn't even an intel part.
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Buying used AMD GPUs hasn't really been a super great idea over the past couple of years due to so many of them being ran at 100% power for months at a time in cryptocurrency mining rigs, but other than that there's nothing wrong with buying used hardware as long as you're ok with sacrificing a warranty for the reduction in price.
So almost home from deployment, going to be picking up one of these once I get home as a present to myself https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0173PEX20/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=35DEC7JPVNP2J&coliid=IFRIEAR27ZFKH&psc=1
I feel like an idiot but is 3840 x 2160 16:9? I currently have a 21:9 Ultra Wide monitor but I'm getting sick of not every game supporting 21:9.
Also on that same note I have 980 SLI's.. at one point should I upgrade? The only card I think would be worth my while is a 1080 but been doing a lot of reading and it looks like 980 SLI and 1080s are about on par with eachother
Thanks guys
Aspect ratio calculator.
There is no reason to upgrade from SLI'd 980s yet, even for 4K. I'd imagine there will be an 1180 next year that would make more sense for you.
I'll admit I don't keep my ear that close to the ground with each individual news website, but I thought I could trust a website to at least list MSRP correctly. Evidently that was wrong, so I apologize. I only used it as an aggregate so I wouldn't be posting individual links.
I think my original point stands though.
When I put in the final intake fan on the bottom of the case, I'll post final build pics.
I've mostly made the switch over to 4K. A few games I have lack UI scaling, but I have to say I'm really, really happy with it. Unsurprisingly, even with a GTX 1080 Skyrim still can't hit 60 FPS consistently in areas with lots of NPCs (then again, that's a CPU dependent game with an obscene number of graphical mods). I don't know if I'm ever getting into VR, but doubling your width and height resolution (and increasing your monitor from 23" to 27") makes an appreciable difference.
Once I get a proper 10 ft DIsplayport cable (my gaming case sits at the other side of the right-corner desk from my monitor), I'll be able to put it a proper distance from my eyes.
Unless your objective is to go blind in 2 years, probably not without changing your settings.
Both Windows 8 and Windows 10 have some basic scaling functionality. That, combined with changing text, apps, etc. size to 200%, actually makes it completely usable. Normal "desktop" apps are more likely to have issue (for example, Photoshop CC was unusable--fortunately, it has a setting that doubles UI size elements), whereas Windows 10 apps always scale accordingly.
A lot of games simply don't have UI scaling, which is more problematic.
It honestly depends on what your day to day is. If most everything you use has good scaling, You'll probably fine. But if you spend 6 hours a day in an app that doesn't you're going to hate yourself.
A lot of programs are kind of wonky and bad at scaling, but most are getting better.
It's not awful anymore, but it's a step down, usability-wise from 1440p, which is basically perfect.
The card I ordered is this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-gtx-1080-directcu-iii-oc-strix-gaming-aura-rgb-8192mb-gddr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-401-as.html
Core Clock: 1784MHz
£799
Got an email today:
The 'replacement' Strix is this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-gtx-1080-directcu-iii-strix-gaming-aura-rgb-8192mb-gddr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-409-as.html
Core Clock: 1695MHz
£799
They are still offering the G1 as another alternative: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080-g1-gaming-rgb-8192mb-gddr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gv-n1080g1-gaming-8-gx-184-gi.html
Core Clock: 1721MHz
£679
I will actually only pay £619 whatever I get because that was the price at time of reservation, but what do you folks think I ought to do?
The ambiguity is whether the original Strix with its 1784 clock will now ever land. I'm tempted to go for the G1 after all but will I be short changing myself? If relevant, I am particularly interested in sound performance. I am confident these cards can run at max, but I want max and quiet, because I am a demanding bugger.
e: this nudges me to the G1... https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/4n67p5/gigabyte_g1_gaming_gtx_1080_review_computerbasede/