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The Year Is 3029. All The World Is Ruled By The McElroy [Podcast] Empire.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    On the other hand, I am ALL THE WAY READY FOR TRUCKS NOW.

    You're truckin' goddamn right you are.

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    DiarmuidDiarmuid Amazing Meatball Registered User regular
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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJUr9Nr3zLI
    RED TRUCK IS BETTER THAN BLUE TRUCK

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    chat is broken

    finally, the ideal giant bomb livestream experience

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
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    simulacrumsimulacrum She/herRegistered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJUr9Nr3zLI
    RED TRUCK IS BETTER THAN BLUE TRUCK

    That entire TNT was magical.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Part of the creep factor is that it always takes the form of the most serial killer-ish version of "human tactile contact" ever. At least when the recipient is human. Petting Pokémon and stuff is fine because petting pets does kinda work like that and it's not weird. You don't pet a loved one. Cuddling doesn't work like that. Except when it's a sex thing but this is an entire defense of it outside of the "it's a sex thing" argument.

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    pookapooka Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    I didn't even like the song that much, but Shazam proved utterly useless in identifying that techno-y bit.

    Chat seems fine for me.

    pooka on
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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    pooka wrote: »
    I didn't even like the song that much, but Shazam proved utterly useless in identifying that techno-y bit.

    Chat seems fine for me.

    None of their songs are gonna be Shazam-able, they're all from a royalty-free library

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    You don't pet a loved one.

    I know several people who would disagree

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Maybe it's just an uncanny valley thing.

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    WE TRUCKIN'

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    I never realized that rileigh looks so mad and sydnee looks so smug on their pod art

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Part of the creep factor is that it always takes the form of the most serial killer-ish version of "human tactile contact" ever. At least when the recipient is human. Petting Pokémon and stuff is fine because petting pets does kinda work like that and it's not weird. You don't pet a loved one. Cuddling doesn't work like that. Except when it's a sex thing but this is an entire defense of it outside of the "it's a sex thing" argument.

    I agree with you about the whole creep factor thing, but to some degree, non-sexual petting can absolutely be a thing. Stroking hair, rubbing back/shoulders/feet/etc.

    I mean, that's what I hear anyway.

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    DiarmuidDiarmuid Amazing Meatball Registered User regular
    Vinny finally has his racing wheel.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    I never realized that rileigh looks so mad and sydnee looks so smug on their pod art

    I love their album art. There's a lot of great expression in those faces/posture. I believe their other sister drew it.

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    alex looks genuinely happy in a way that I don't think I've ever seen on gb before

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Part of the creep factor is that it always takes the form of the most serial killer-ish version of "human tactile contact" ever. At least when the recipient is human. Petting Pokémon and stuff is fine because petting pets does kinda work like that and it's not weird. You don't pet a loved one. Cuddling doesn't work like that. Except when it's a sex thing but this is an entire defense of it outside of the "it's a sex thing" argument.

    I agree with you about the whole creep factor thing, but to some degree, non-sexual petting can absolutely be a thing. Stroking hair, rubbing back/shoulders/feet/etc.

    I mean, that's what I hear anyway.

    There's a difference between petting and rubbing/cuddling. Maybe it's just the aesthetics of it in games and an uncanny valley thing. Like if the cursor is a pointing finger I get the impression I'm just poking someone and what are you doing nobody likes to be poked like that.

    (oh except like that poke me more like that senpai)

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    David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    Of course you poke pokemon.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    The whole skinship thing is just odd to me because it's like, some weird attempt to make these digital characters more real but it's not? It's just a different control interface manipulating lines of code in a program?

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    The whole skinship thing is just odd to me because it's like, some weird attempt to make these digital characters more real but it's not? It's just a different control interface manipulating lines of code in a program?

    Well, everything is. So's heartfelt dialogue and meaningful character development and subtle facial animation.

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    The whole skinship thing is just odd to me because it's like, some weird attempt to make these digital characters more real but it's not? It's just a different control interface manipulating lines of code in a program?

    And movies are a bunch of pictures of people wearing other people's clothes

    What's your point

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    The whole skinship thing is just odd to me because it's like, some weird attempt to make these digital characters more real but it's not? It's just a different control interface manipulating lines of code in a program?

    Well, everything is. So's heartfelt dialogue and meaningful character development and subtle facial animation.

    Right but none of those things make the character anymore real to me.

    It just makes them more entertaining, emotionally resonant, etc.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    The whole skinship thing is just odd to me because it's like, some weird attempt to make these digital characters more real but it's not? It's just a different control interface manipulating lines of code in a program?

    And movies are a bunch of pictures of people wearing other people's clothes

    What's your point

    That it would be weird say, invent 3D movies so that your relationship with the characters in a movie would be more real when it is has never been real at all.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Oh hey I actually have my first practical driving lesson tonight and I hadn't considered that this is kind of making me nervous just watching it.

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    in this year's goty video alex will not show up for work and they're going to go to his house and find him in his underwear VR trucking

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    The whole skinship thing is just odd to me because it's like, some weird attempt to make these digital characters more real but it's not? It's just a different control interface manipulating lines of code in a program?

    Well, everything is. So's heartfelt dialogue and meaningful character development and subtle facial animation.

    Right but none of those things make the character anymore real to me.

    It just makes them more entertaining, emotionally resonant, etc.

    Okay but when people say "real" they don't literally mean make them flesh and imbue them with a soul

    they mean those things you just said.

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    I think some people may find it more meaningful to do the skinship thing, to feel closer to the characters, when you don't? You seem to be making it sound like because you don't find it to make it more real to you that it means it's not real to anyone?

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Oh hey I actually have my first practical driving lesson tonight and I hadn't considered that this is kind of making me nervous just watching it.

    Don't worry, cars are way easier! You'll do great! Good luck! :D

    (Unless this is a practical driving lesson for like a trailer truck in which case good luck, seriously).

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Yeah I think the meaning of 'real' is implied to be something different than the traditional definition.

    I'm not into skinship stuff at all but I can see how someone would be.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Oh hey I actually have my first practical driving lesson tonight and I hadn't considered that this is kind of making me nervous just watching it.

    Don't worry, cars are way easier! You'll do great! Good luck! :D

    (Unless this is a practical driving lesson for like a trailer truck in which case good luck, seriously).

    Nope, car.

    In the snow and ice because Canada and that's just my luck but first lesson is closed circuit so it shouldn't be TOO bad.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
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    SimBen wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    The whole skinship thing is just odd to me because it's like, some weird attempt to make these digital characters more real but it's not? It's just a different control interface manipulating lines of code in a program?

    Well, everything is. So's heartfelt dialogue and meaningful character development and subtle facial animation.

    Right but none of those things make the character anymore real to me.

    It just makes them more entertaining, emotionally resonant, etc.

    Okay but when people say "real" they don't literally mean make them flesh and imbue them with a soul

    they mean those things you just said.

    Perhaps I am just having a hard time coming at this from the right perspective after having lived in Japan and the whole 2D girlfriend thing. Because these characters are very real to some people in a way that I personally do not really understand.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
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    SimBen wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    The whole skinship thing is just odd to me because it's like, some weird attempt to make these digital characters more real but it's not? It's just a different control interface manipulating lines of code in a program?

    Well, everything is. So's heartfelt dialogue and meaningful character development and subtle facial animation.

    Right but none of those things make the character anymore real to me.

    It just makes them more entertaining, emotionally resonant, etc.

    Okay but when people say "real" they don't literally mean make them flesh and imbue them with a soul

    they mean those things you just said.

    Perhaps I am just having a hard time coming at this from the right perspective after having lived in Japan and the whole 2D girlfriend thing. Because these characters are very real to some people in a way that I personally do not really understand.

    Yeah I'd say taking it that far is a thing some people definitely do and yes that is also completely alien to me. I couldn't say how common that is in Japan versus here or how open people relatively are to admitting to it and stuff.

    It's also part of what I find creepy.

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    are there skinship games that use the ps4 touchpad

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    The whole skinship thing is just odd to me because it's like, some weird attempt to make these digital characters more real but it's not? It's just a different control interface manipulating lines of code in a program?

    Well, everything is. So's heartfelt dialogue and meaningful character development and subtle facial animation.

    Right but none of those things make the character anymore real to me.

    It just makes them more entertaining, emotionally resonant, etc.

    Okay but when people say "real" they don't literally mean make them flesh and imbue them with a soul

    they mean those things you just said.

    Perhaps I am just having a hard time coming at this from the right perspective after having lived in Japan and the whole 2D girlfriend thing. Because these characters are very real to some people in a way that I personally do not really understand.

    Yeah I'd say taking it that far is a thing some people definitely do and yes that is also completely alien to me. I couldn't say how common that is in Japan versus here or how open people relatively are to admitting to it and stuff.

    It's also part of what I find creepy.

    Just let me touch your face for fifteen minutes and you'll understand, Simben-Senpai~

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    *takes notes* ask instructor what I do if my neck gets stuck staring at upper-right corner, how to change camera angles

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    The thing about the petting is that the digital anime man cannot reciprocate

    Now petting a pokemon or something is okay because it's your pet, and pets are unable to reciprocate because they don't have hands so they have an excuse

    But a human being, in the context of some kind of romantic relationship? It's completely one-sided affection, which even if you're not using it in a sexual context is still mega-creepo because cuddling/physical affection is usually a two-way street

    It feels diminutive and creepy because you're treating another (fake digital anime) human being like a pet

    In conclusion, god willing, the above words are all I will ever write about "skinship"

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    *takes notes* ask instructor what I do if my neck gets stuck staring at upper-right corner, how to change camera angles

    Make sure to switch to cinematic camera when merging into traffic.

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