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    DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    Well, shit. Looks like the modding API won't load now that I've updated to 1.1.

    Guess I'll be waiting for the modders to get the updates sorted out. I love the look of these new maps, but I'm not playing this with the vanilla walkspeed again.

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    On the plus side the planning website already updated with the new layouts.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    Duffel wrote: »
    Well, shit. Looks like the modding API won't load now that I've updated to 1.1.

    Guess I'll be waiting for the modders to get the updates sorted out. I love the look of these new maps, but I'm not playing this with the vanilla walkspeed again.
    @Duffel SMAPI was updated a couple days ago, actually, but only for WINE and Windows. http://community.playstarbound.com/threads/stardew-modding-api-0-40-1-1.108375/

    Some mods may not work properly, obviously, but there are approximately 523,000 "walk faster" mods, so I can't say if the one you're using is one of the ones that will/won't

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    DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    Actually, I went onto the SDV forums themselves, instead of looking at the nexus, and someone's already posted a patch that gets the cheat menu/item spawner and all that working. Awesome.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    A lot of Shane's new events hit a little too close to home for me, but goddamn if his eight heart event doesn't have the most adorable portrait in the game
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    NoxyNoxy Registered User regular
    Type of honey determines the value of mead, right?

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Fonjo wrote: »
    Type of honey determines the value of mead, right?

    Not unless things have changed when it comes to using produce to craft goods. For every crafted good it's been a base price multiplier with no consideration for the quality of ingredients. In other words speed growth on your hops/grapes instead of fertilizer. The only exception I can think of is using large milk/goat milk to make cheese.

    New maps are making for interesting planning and more fun game play. First new map I did was the fishing map and it forced me to plant only a reasonable amount of crops instead of the ridiculous number of crops that make me dread every new season.

    Making less money for sure (I mean the difference between 432 plots of blue berries/cranberries and 72 is a lot) but starting year two with over 750k in spare cash was both kind of boring and very broken. So instead of banking everything that might be useful I'm giving consideration to the income from selling what I've picked up.

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    NoxyNoxy Registered User regular
    Hm. It's interesting because the base value of the honey is determined by the flower but it's still honey. I wasn't even considering the star quality angle. I'll have to experiment.

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    azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Damn. bad timing. I'm still stuck in full - Warcraft Mode and I've fallen behind on playing Hearthstone and Duelyst.

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    DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    Fonjo wrote: »
    Type of honey determines the value of mead, right?

    Not unless things have changed when it comes to using produce to craft goods. For every crafted good it's been a base price multiplier with no consideration for the quality of ingredients. In other words speed growth on your hops/grapes instead of fertilizer. The only exception I can think of is using large milk/goat milk to make cheese.

    New maps are making for interesting planning and more fun game play. First new map I did was the fishing map and it forced me to plant only a reasonable amount of crops instead of the ridiculous number of crops that make me dread every new season.

    Making less money for sure (I mean the difference between 432 plots of blue berries/cranberries and 72 is a lot) but starting year two with over 750k in spare cash was both kind of boring and very broken. So instead of banking everything that might be useful I'm giving consideration to the income from selling what I've picked up.

    If you're already using that map, fishing itself can be a pretty decent source of income. The way I usually do it is to fish the mountain lake in the spring, the woods river in the fall, and the ocean summer and winter. Not sure if that's actually the best on average, but it usually works out pretty well for me. On an all-day fishing run, allowing for food to recharge stamina, bait, etc., you can average 10k-ish a day easily once your skill maxes out.

    The problem (if you consider it such) with fishing as an income source is that that income stream is completely flat. You're never going to make as much money fishing as you can on a profitable farm churning out produce and artisan goods. It's also pretty "labor"-intensive. That 10k a day might very well keep you busy from 6am to 10pm, and it can get a little monotonous if you don't enjoy the subgame.

    Another caveat is that there's no strategy to it. Other than filling out your fishing collection, you don't get the satisfaction of crafting and organizing your farm, which a lot of people really like to do. But on the other hand, there's almost no maintenance or overhead to worry about, other than buying bait (which is extremely cheap even in the early game).

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Fonjo wrote: »
    Hm. It's interesting because the base value of the honey is determined by the flower but it's still honey. I wasn't even considering the star quality angle. I'll have to experiment.

    That's a good point. I'll have to experiment too. If it turns out to increase it I'm going to be kicking myself for not getting my beehives up and running before fall.

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    I think the update may have rebugged snow when it comes to walleye

    I've spent ten days fishing in winter during the evening with 10 fishing and an iridium rod in both snow and sunny skies and not a single walleye

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    Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    I think the update may have rebugged snow when it comes to walleye

    I've spent ten days fishing in winter during the evening with 10 fishing and an iridium rod in both snow and sunny skies and not a single walleye

    I am pretty sure walleye is a fall and rain fish.

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    I found that tilting it doesn't work very well, and once I started jerking it, I got much better results.

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    I think the update may have rebugged snow when it comes to walleye

    I've spent ten days fishing in winter during the evening with 10 fishing and an iridium rod in both snow and sunny skies and not a single walleye

    I am pretty sure walleye is a fall and rain fish.

    It's supposed to be a Fall/Winter during rain fish. The game itself confirms this but there was a bug months ago where snow didn't count as rain so it effectively became a fall only fish but that got fixed.

    But I think the bug is back. Which is kinda annoying because that means with my fishing map farm year two fall is now the earliest I can catch it.

    Really though it's just the last fish I need for the aquarium and all that does is remove the glittering boulder. Since panning for minerals is pretty terrible anyways? Eh I can live with it.

    I was just hoping to finish the Community Center before the end of year one but that was more of a self imposed challenge than anything else.

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Also as someone that grew up fishing for walleye with my grandpa it being a fall/winter only fish is kinda dumb all together since prime walleye season consists of "allowed to fish legally" but it's not like walleye is the only fish with that issue :P

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    Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    Also as someone that grew up fishing for walleye with my grandpa it being a fall/winter only fish is kinda dumb all together since prime walleye season consists of "allowed to fish legally" but it's not like walleye is the only fish with that issue :P

    It's definitely taking a lot of liberties with things. This is after all a game where a rabbit can occasionally shed a foot for you when happy.

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    akjakakjak Thera Spooky GymRegistered User regular
    edited October 2016
    So, this is weird. I'm playing the game on the Steam Mac version.... And I can't find the files anywhere on my computer (for modding purposes).

    The path where Steam apps should be is... Not there. Searching does nothing. What even?

    Edit: I found it. Weird. The "Library" folder where they are is hidden in my user folder somehow. Using the "show local files" from inside Steam found it, but no finder search could.

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    SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    If anyone is a subscriber to the Humble Monthly bundle, Stardew Valley is the game you get early as a part of next month's bundle. I'm pretty happy about that because it means I get to give the game to my wife.

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    akjakakjak Thera Spooky GymRegistered User regular
    I started over with the new update, and pretty proud of myself that I should be able to get the greenhouse before the end of Fall 1

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    Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    akjak wrote: »
    I started over with the new update, and pretty proud of myself that I should be able to get the greenhouse before the end of Fall 1

    I started over with the new update and was pretty proud when I didn't have to spend the first Flower Dance alone in a corner with Clint.

    Big Dookie wrote: »
    I found that tilting it doesn't work very well, and once I started jerking it, I got much better results.

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    NEO|PhyteNEO|Phyte They follow the stars, bound together. Strands in a braid till the end.Registered User regular
    So you left Clint to be alone in a corner all alone? That's cold, man.

    It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing... And take away its pain.
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    Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    NEO|Phyte wrote: »
    So you left Clint to be alone in a corner all alone? That's cold, man.

    He had company. He was in a corner with Alex.

    Lazy bum should have my tool upgrade done sooner.

    To add salt to his wounds, the quest where he asks the player to give an amethyst to Emily was what got her up to 10 hearts this game.

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    Big Dookie wrote: »
    I found that tilting it doesn't work very well, and once I started jerking it, I got much better results.

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    DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    How does Clint react to you marrying Emily, anyway?

    His crush on her seems to be the only thing keeping him from sticking his head in the furnace.

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    Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    Duffel wrote: »
    How does Clint react to you marrying Emily, anyway?

    His crush on her seems to be the only thing keeping him from sticking his head in the furnace.

    I'm curious but wasn't curious enough to find out in this game. While I enjoyed her added events, they were more entertaining than enlightening with regards to her character. But to be fair, she's one of the few marriage candidates actually happy to be in Pelican town and of those the only one with a stable way of making a living so she doesn't need the kind of soul searching the other characters do.

    Her events and Clint's events seem to be totally independent so far though. Clint's relationship was raised after Emily's so his stuff fired off after one in her chain that made it sound like he was giving up.

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    shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    I think I need to dive back into this. It's been a stressful couple of months and this game does wonders to help me wind down late in the evening.

    This game is perfectly suited to late night, for me at least, because by that point I can usually avoid getting worked up about optimal farm design or the cheevo-rush and just cook, fish, chat with folks and make my own wine for a while. One of the things I love about Stardew Valley, now that I think of it, is that while it has lots of ways to reward obsessives and specialists, its overall aesthetic and philosophy is built around casual, relaxing play.

    EDIT: That said, it's only 8:41 in Seattle, so I'm going to spend a while fiddling with that new hilltop map and a planning app. Zen is hard, you guys.

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Ok apparently type of honey does not improve mead price. Wild honey mead is 280g and Blue Jazz honey mead is 280g.

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    akjakakjak Thera Spooky GymRegistered User regular
    edited October 2016
    Duffel wrote: »
    How does Clint react to you marrying Emily, anyway?

    His crush on her seems to be the only thing keeping him from sticking his head in the furnace.
    she's one of the few marriage candidates actually happy to be in Pelican town and of those the only one with a stable way of making a living so she doesn't need the kind of soul searching the other characters do.

    Of the women, maybe. Most of the men have other occupations. Elliot seems happy to be there, Sebastian may live in his parents' basement but he has a programming job. Harvey's a doctor.
    shalmelo wrote: »
    ...by that point I can usually avoid getting worked up about optimal farm design or the cheevo-rush and just cook, fish, chat with folks and make my own wine for a while.

    This is my plan... As soon as I unlock the greenhouse. After that my farm is gonna be all wild grass and pretty flowers, cows and chickens everywhere. Imma make my money in cranberries, and be set for life.

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    hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    akjak wrote: »
    Duffel wrote: »
    How does Clint react to you marrying Emily, anyway?

    His crush on her seems to be the only thing keeping him from sticking his head in the furnace.
    she's one of the few marriage candidates actually happy to be in Pelican town and of those the only one with a stable way of making a living so she doesn't need the kind of soul searching the other characters do.

    Of the women, maybe. Most of the men have other occupations. Elliot seems happy to be there, Sebastian may live in his parents' basement but he has a programming job. Harvey's a doctor.
    • Maru works at the clinic. Also not sure if her science stuff pays for anything.
    • Leah's an artist and Elliot is a writer, so their incomes probably comes in spurts. (Leah, in particular, sells some art online.)
    • Shane works at the Joja Mart.
    • Penny teaches, but... I'm not sure she gets paid? I'd assume so, since Pam doesn't work any more (until you restore the bus, anyways).

    Who doesn't work? Haley, Abigail (in school), Alex, Sam.

    So overall, it seems that just as many female romance interests have incomes than the male ones. Maybe the female ones work more non-traditional, part-time jobs?

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    Who doesn't work? Haley, Abigail (in school), Alex, Sam.

    Sam works at Joja Mart, too, actually.

    And Alex works in the summer, if that counts. For all we know, Haley could sell her pictures, too. And Abigail mentions helping out around the store.

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    Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    akjak wrote: »
    Duffel wrote: »
    How does Clint react to you marrying Emily, anyway?

    His crush on her seems to be the only thing keeping him from sticking his head in the furnace.
    she's one of the few marriage candidates actually happy to be in Pelican town and of those the only one with a stable way of making a living so she doesn't need the kind of soul searching the other characters do.

    Of the women, maybe. Most of the men have other occupations. Elliot seems happy to be there, Sebastian may live in his parents' basement but he has a programming job. Harvey's a doctor.
    • Maru works at the clinic. Also not sure if her science stuff pays for anything.
    • Leah's an artist and Elliot is a writer, so their incomes probably comes in spurts. (Leah, in particular, sells some art online.)
    • Shane works at the Joja Mart.
    • Penny teaches, but... I'm not sure she gets paid? I'd assume so, since Pam doesn't work any more (until you restore the bus, anyways).

    Who doesn't work? Haley, Abigail (in school), Alex, Sam.

    So overall, it seems that just as many female romance interests have incomes than the male ones. Maybe the female ones work more non-traditional, part-time jobs?

    I always forget about Maru since her hours at the clinic are so weird. That said, I'm not sure how stable her employment is at the start of the game given how Harvey often complains about having trouble making ends meet which I assume would affect her job as well. A lot of the candidates have an occupation, but it either isn't really set at the start (Leah hasn't figured out how to actually sell art, Elliot hasn't actually finished a book) or is on shaky ground (like Harvey's comments about the clinic or being employed by Joja Mart which the player can get shut down). Penny's seems pretty stable but she's not happy with her living situation at the start which was the other criteria of the short list. I have yet to make enough headway with Sebastian in any game given how he sticks to his home so much to find out more about his arc. I learned about his love of sashimi only after I'd already gotten married in my current game.

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    hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    The economic precariousness of Pelican Town does lurk somewhat in the background of the game. That's sorta what Joja Mart represents for the town, especially for Pierre's family. And the town itself seems to only have 3 exporters: you, Robin, and Willy. (Possibly Leah one day. Pam also brought in revenue from her driving work.)

    It may only be particularly striking to me because I married Penny, and her story's pretty enormously sad. :sad:

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    Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    The economic precariousness of Pelican Town does lurk somewhat in the background of the game. That's sorta what Joja Mart represents for the town, especially for Pierre's family. And the town itself seems to only have 3 exporters: you, Robin, and Willy. (Possibly Leah one day. Pam also brought in revenue from her driving work.)

    It may only be particularly striking to me because I married Penny, and her story's pretty enormously sad. :sad:

    It's a pretty apparent theme really. A lot of residents talk about how in the dumps the economy is and how they can't afford to shop at Pierre's. The place the player runs off to to escape from it all is where many people's hopes and dreams have died.

    Big Dookie wrote: »
    I found that tilting it doesn't work very well, and once I started jerking it, I got much better results.

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    hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    hippofant wrote: »
    The economic precariousness of Pelican Town does lurk somewhat in the background of the game. That's sorta what Joja Mart represents for the town, especially for Pierre's family. And the town itself seems to only have 3 exporters: you, Robin, and Willy. (Possibly Leah one day. Pam also brought in revenue from her driving work.)

    It may only be particularly striking to me because I married Penny, and her story's pretty enormously sad. :sad:

    It's a pretty apparent theme really. A lot of residents talk about how in the dumps the economy is and how they can't afford to shop at Pierre's. The place the player runs off to to escape from it all is where many people's hopes and dreams have died.

    Really? I don't remember too much of that. Jodi does mention shopping at Joja Mart being much cheaper than Pierre's. My experience was that most of the villagers were pretty upbeat most of the time, and Penny's sadness only became readily apparent to me after marriage.

    That being said, I think the villagers' comments actually depend on how you're doing in the game, whether it's # of hearts of income generated I don't recall. I was pretty aggressive with min-maxing in my game, so most of the villagers turned friendly/optimistic with me rather rapidly.

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    Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    hippofant wrote: »
    The economic precariousness of Pelican Town does lurk somewhat in the background of the game. That's sorta what Joja Mart represents for the town, especially for Pierre's family. And the town itself seems to only have 3 exporters: you, Robin, and Willy. (Possibly Leah one day. Pam also brought in revenue from her driving work.)

    It may only be particularly striking to me because I married Penny, and her story's pretty enormously sad. :sad:

    It's a pretty apparent theme really. A lot of residents talk about how in the dumps the economy is and how they can't afford to shop at Pierre's. The place the player runs off to to escape from it all is where many people's hopes and dreams have died.

    Really? I don't remember too much of that. Jodi does mention shopping at Joja Mart being much cheaper than Pierre's. My experience was that most of the villagers were pretty upbeat most of the time, and Penny's sadness only became readily apparent to me after marriage.

    That being said, I think the villagers' comments actually depend on how you're doing in the game, whether it's # of hearts of income generated I don't recall. I was pretty aggressive with min-maxing in my game, so most of the villagers turned friendly/optimistic with me rather rapidly.

    One of Penny's lines at high heart level is how Pam can afford to buy more at Joja than she ever could at Pierre's. More of the comments are about the general economy though. Caroline has some lines about how a successful farm could inject some health into the economy, Lewis has concerns about how your farm is faring early on and worried it might fail.

    Heart level does play into it and possibly time. I'm not sure when Penny stops talking about Pam and Joja or Caroline about your farm improving the economy.

    Big Dookie wrote: »
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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    akjak wrote: »
    Duffel wrote: »
    How does Clint react to you marrying Emily, anyway?

    His crush on her seems to be the only thing keeping him from sticking his head in the furnace.
    she's one of the few marriage candidates actually happy to be in Pelican town and of those the only one with a stable way of making a living so she doesn't need the kind of soul searching the other characters do.

    Of the women, maybe. Most of the men have other occupations. Elliot seems happy to be there, Sebastian may live in his parents' basement but he has a programming job. Harvey's a doctor.
    • Maru works at the clinic. Also not sure if her science stuff pays for anything.
    • Leah's an artist and Elliot is a writer, so their incomes probably comes in spurts. (Leah, in particular, sells some art online.)
    • Shane works at the Joja Mart.
    • Penny teaches, but... I'm not sure she gets paid? I'd assume so, since Pam doesn't work any more (until you restore the bus, anyways).

    Who doesn't work? Haley, Abigail (in school), Alex, Sam.

    So overall, it seems that just as many female romance interests have incomes than the male ones. Maybe the female ones work more non-traditional, part-time jobs?

    I always forget about Maru since her hours at the clinic are so weird. That said, I'm not sure how stable her employment is at the start of the game given how Harvey often complains about having trouble making ends meet which I assume would affect her job as well. A lot of the candidates have an occupation, but it either isn't really set at the start (Leah hasn't figured out how to actually sell art, Elliot hasn't actually finished a book) or is on shaky ground (like Harvey's comments about the clinic or being employed by Joja Mart which the player can get shut down). Penny's seems pretty stable but she's not happy with her living situation at the start which was the other criteria of the short list. I have yet to make enough headway with Sebastian in any game given how he sticks to his home so much to find out more about his arc. I learned about his love of sashimi only after I'd already gotten married in my current game.

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    hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    hippofant wrote: »
    hippofant wrote: »
    The economic precariousness of Pelican Town does lurk somewhat in the background of the game. That's sorta what Joja Mart represents for the town, especially for Pierre's family. And the town itself seems to only have 3 exporters: you, Robin, and Willy. (Possibly Leah one day. Pam also brought in revenue from her driving work.)

    It may only be particularly striking to me because I married Penny, and her story's pretty enormously sad. :sad:

    It's a pretty apparent theme really. A lot of residents talk about how in the dumps the economy is and how they can't afford to shop at Pierre's. The place the player runs off to to escape from it all is where many people's hopes and dreams have died.

    Really? I don't remember too much of that. Jodi does mention shopping at Joja Mart being much cheaper than Pierre's. My experience was that most of the villagers were pretty upbeat most of the time, and Penny's sadness only became readily apparent to me after marriage.

    That being said, I think the villagers' comments actually depend on how you're doing in the game, whether it's # of hearts of income generated I don't recall. I was pretty aggressive with min-maxing in my game, so most of the villagers turned friendly/optimistic with me rather rapidly.

    One of Penny's lines at high heart level is how Pam can afford to buy more at Joja than she ever could at Pierre's. More of the comments are about the general economy though. Caroline has some lines about how a successful farm could inject some health into the economy, Lewis has concerns about how your farm is faring early on and worried it might fail.

    Heart level does play into it and possibly time. I'm not sure when Penny stops talking about Pam and Joja or Caroline about your farm improving the economy.

    I honestly didn't read those comments as particularly dark at first. It wasn't until later that I married Penny and got some dramatically sad dialogues that I reflected back on those comments and realised they could be interpreted in that way. It was just friendly small-town gossip!

    I guess maybe I'm just less observant than you are. The game seemed so cheery and such!

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    akjakakjak Thera Spooky GymRegistered User regular
    I'm just a savage stalker, and every time I see Abigail headed to Robin's I'm all "STAY AWAY FROM MY BOYFRIEND!"

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Finally got around to finishing the Wizard's quest on my river farm and checked out the costs on the summoned buildings.

    Bring lots and lots of money.

    I don't think I'm even going to try to put them on the river map. It'd be year four before I could afford all of them and even then I don't have the room for them. I don't even have room for a slime hutch :P

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    I think I just hatched a baby stegosaurus

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    MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    I think I just hatched a baby stegosaurus

    Congratulations and I fucking hate you so much.

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