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GOP Primary: Mass Hysteria
Atomika
Live fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered User regular
Live fast and get fucked or whateverRegistered User regular
The Polls say: Drumpf, Drumpf, and more Drumpf
We welcome our new Drumpf overlords.
Be polite. No conversations what aren't on topic and such and whatnot. Eat at Arby's.
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This is an election year. You will be promised a lot of things.
I've got the best blackjack there is, just you wait
And the greatest hookers in the world
they're gonna be yuge
biggest hookers you ever saw
I think you can call the GOP. I think the Democratic side is close to done, but Sanders could still take a serious bite out of Clinton. The media is calling it after South Carolina, but this is the same media that has been declaring Rubiomentum for weeks.
I once stabbed a hooker with a knife and hit her on the head with a hammer. Then I went down to the blackjack table, where these guys cleaned me out. But then I got seventeen straight flushes in a row. Then they recognized me and were happy, and stopped the game to give me my money back.
In Dimension Carson, he's already President.
Cruz and Rubio need big delegate wins if they hope to make up any ground. Cruz may pull some in Texas, but likely little else. Rubio's best shot was in Florida, where he's currently about 20 points back.
Honestly, if this thing turns out like I expect, everyone should be effectively mathematically eliminated except Trump.
Will that stop Rubio or Cruz? No idea. It wouldn't surprise me if they kept going. Cruz, in particular, gets off on banging his head against a brick wall.
Yeah, the Media is all about the Rubes.
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You want to see human tragedy? Google dive back for press articles about Carson before he started running for president.
It's like if the Dalai Lama won the lottery and blew it all on hookers and yachts. Never before has a man lost so much respect in so little time.
Meh. Pretty typical for any neophyte who jumps to the big leagues without being vetted first.
Carson fell apart like a cornbread turd the second anyone gave him the side-eye.
And that he's responsible for the government shutdown.
How are both these things true at the same time? How can one senator alone with everyone against him shut down the government?
He wrangled up a coalition of morons before everyone figured out how big a piece of shit he was. Then when the leadership saw what a turdbasket he was, they cast him out of their good graces, and that's when Cruz thought his best response was to start working against his own party.
But now? This is over.
At this point I'm pretty sure Carson is waiting for Trump to win the nomination, after which he'll stab Trump in an attempt to take over the title.
Unfortunately for Carson, Trump will be wearing a YUUUUUUGE belt-buckle, which will deflect the blow, proving that Ben Carson had been telling the truth this whole time. He will then proceed with decapitating a startled Ben Carson, whose last world will be: "NOT AGAIN!".
As Ben Carson's head rolls at Trumps feet, the Donald's rise to power will be complete.
Predictwise and PredictIt are agreeing with you despite Trump being mentioned together with Mussolini and David Duke within 24 hours.
There was a lot of saber rattling going on about it before he took the reins, and he's usually cited as being a large part of taking it too far instead of the 11th hour negotiation like they wanted.
On Maddow's program last week she presented some "back of the envelope math" from her people which stated that neither Cruz nor Rubio can actually secure the 51% delegates needed anymore, based on delegates already assigned and states where polling isn't even remotely close (landslide Trump states).
They can only drive it to convention, where it will likely be handed to Rubio but also cause a major GOP controversy that will damage voter faith in the party.
You'll note a total lack of numbers in that story. There's no real evidence there that Democratic union members are moving towards Trump in a general election matchup. There's some evidence that white dudes will vote for Trump, but that's like every election.
Let's put it this way. An uninspiring but most of the time not comically racist super rich guy was beaten easily by a black incumbent President with 8% unemployment. Now Obama is a gifted politician, so that accounts for some of it, but a lot of it is demographics. It's very hard for Republicans to win right now.
The idea here is that the couple sops to populism and opposition to TPP will overcome an increasingly strong economy, institutional distrust, being utterly clueless (Clinton especially would make him look like a fool in debates), and of course all the racism. I do not buy it.
Here's the race the Establishment expected to see:
1st place - Jeb Bush redeems the family name and affirms years of political wisdom that he is the "smart Bush." The polls show that he has a clear path to victory after Tuesday, but I think it is safe to call it now.
2nd place - Marco Rubio, Jeb's former protege, introduces personal drama and youthful vigor in the campaign. It has been a hard fight, with sore feelings on both sides, but he has done well on his inaugural run and everyone expects that Jeb and he will mend fences. Expect a powerful position for him in the Bush III White House. Rubio '24?
3rd place - Ted Cruz, the evangelical's favorite candidate. He has pushed hard for a family values President in the White House, and his message has been headed by everyone in the race. He will be an important ally in the Senate for President Bush.
The rest of the GOP field - At home watching watching the race with the rest of America.
The House is full of radical nutjobs like him, and they followed him.
I know. I love it. I love that Rubio's only tack now is a path that will without a doubt cause an unrecoverable schism in the party.
He isn't 100% hated in the House, where he is the shining leader of the crazy teaper minority. He has to hang out with house reps because he truly is without friends in the senate.
For example, his "gamesmanship" in 2014 let Reid push through a large number of federal judiciary appointments, which has altered the lean of the federal bench.
If it goes brokered Trump will either go independent or a bunch of immigration zealots will stay home anyway, and Trump will spend months directing his herd to bray and scream at the GOP. It will be a gigantic, extremely well-covered shouting match where a big portion of the party will be spending all of its time calling the rest a bunch of traitors and "wetback lovers". It would be disastrous and demoralizing, if also energizing in some perverse way.
This would actually be the ideal scenario for Democrats.
Not a Trump nomination, but a Trump 45-49% majority leading to a convention in which Rubio was handed the nom by the party leadership. In this scenario, Rubio wouldn't be a tough candidate at all. He would be destroyed in the general by angry Trump supporters who would surely stay home in large numbers rather than vote for Rubio. That could also end his future Presidential aspirations, whereas if he is simply defeated here and Trump is defeated in the general, he will certainly show up again and possibly with the actual support of the base next time.
I think we're going to see a Trump/Rubio ticket come out of the convention looking to pick a fight.
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Also, the establishment can always lay low, hope that Clinton wins, and then sell the Senate as a way to keep her in check.
The answer to your question is found below:
Second, Trump just has it too easy:
Bunch of tweets hitting Rubio right now.
Then Clinton can just go with "Here's Trump raining shit on Rubio. Now he decided 'Little Rubio' is fit for the presidency, and Rubio decided to kiss the ring of the man he has called an idiotic scumbag for a sniff of power. Both are either lying hypocrites or has garbage judgment and no dignity."
Maybe Kasich. Maaayyybe Christie (bad favorables). Maybe some establishment darling governor or congressperson, or some popular minority conservative from who knows where.
Or the Right could lose this year and go even further off the cliff in 2020. I swore after 2012 the lesson of "get back to the center" would of been learned.