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El Debate Demócrata Octava: Yes, Another One
Sterica
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Details, please.
It's 8:30pm EST on Univision or stream via the Washington Post.
Why is this one important?
March 15th is the primary for Florida, which has over 200 delegates at stake. While the polls are heavily in favor of Clinton, Florida isn't winner-take-all for Democrats, so Sanders has a chance to diminish that victory. If Clinton's victory is large enough, then it could crush the Sanders insurgency next Tuesday.
Where?
Miami, Florida
What's the focus?
Given Univision's hosting of this debate, I would wager that immigration and similar issues relevant to Hispanics are going to take up a fair chunk of time.
Who is moderating?
Maria Elena Salinas, Jorge Ramos, and Karen Tumulty
Tonight's Players
I wish there were more to say this thread, but it's literally been like four days since the late debate, and very little has changed. The most notable thing for Clinton is the surprise loss in Michigan last night. It likely means Clinton isn't done yet with this primary, but it probably doesn't make her any less inevitable. It's really hard to say if her loss in Michigan was at all related to Sunday's debate, but it's probably too soon to really analyze it and change anything to begin with so I dunno. She'll probably just stay the course since it's the safer option and highly unlikely that her enormous lead in Florida is at any kind of risk.
Sanders had a really good Tuesday, which may spur him to work it overtime tonight. I mean, at the very least he'll be a bit more aggressive like he was Sunday since, hey, why not? His previous debates didn't exactly set the world polls on fire, and it's not like Sanders has a lot to lose here, so I wouldn't be surprised if he really starts putting on the heat. One interesting thing will be how Sanders approaches minority issues tonight. Florida is too big to say that African American votes aren't important, but there's also Florida's considerable Hispanic population. Black voters are what helped Sanders win Michigan, from what early analysis I'm seeing, and if he wants to have any hope of doing decently in Florida he again needs to win those votes.
It's 8:30pm EST on Univision or stream via the Washington Post.
Why is this one important?
March 15th is the primary for Florida, which has over 200 delegates at stake. While the polls are heavily in favor of Clinton, Florida isn't winner-take-all for Democrats, so Sanders has a chance to diminish that victory. If Clinton's victory is large enough, then it could crush the Sanders insurgency next Tuesday.
Where?
Miami, Florida
What's the focus?
Given Univision's hosting of this debate, I would wager that immigration and similar issues relevant to Hispanics are going to take up a fair chunk of time.
Who is moderating?
Maria Elena Salinas, Jorge Ramos, and Karen Tumulty
Tonight's Players
I wish there were more to say this thread, but it's literally been like four days since the late debate, and very little has changed. The most notable thing for Clinton is the surprise loss in Michigan last night. It likely means Clinton isn't done yet with this primary, but it probably doesn't make her any less inevitable. It's really hard to say if her loss in Michigan was at all related to Sunday's debate, but it's probably too soon to really analyze it and change anything to begin with so I dunno. She'll probably just stay the course since it's the safer option and highly unlikely that her enormous lead in Florida is at any kind of risk.
Sanders had a really good Tuesday, which may spur him to work it overtime tonight. I mean, at the very least he'll be a bit more aggressive like he was Sunday since, hey, why not? His previous debates didn't exactly set the world polls on fire, and it's not like Sanders has a lot to lose here, so I wouldn't be surprised if he really starts putting on the heat. One interesting thing will be how Sanders approaches minority issues tonight. Florida is too big to say that African American votes aren't important, but there's also Florida's considerable Hispanic population. Black voters are what helped Sanders win Michigan, from what early analysis I'm seeing, and if he wants to have any hope of doing decently in Florida he again needs to win those votes.
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Like, NYC is more or less out of the question for him. So... how many states would he have to win to compensate for both his current shortfall + the fact that Clinton will be taking NYC?
What gives you the impression that Clinton will be taking NYC?
But the important thing to remember is that Sanders is looking beyond the primary, and he wants to get Clinton more leftward and basically disown some of her corporate ties. He's probably going to use any excuse he has to stay in this thing so long as the traveling circus that is the Republican Primary makes the democrats look downright civilized by comparison.
Currently polling has Clinton at 55~ percent, and Sanders at 34~ percent. That's a rough hill to climb (...and I assume Mrs. Clinton would have a stronger ground game in places like NJ / NYC, given the dominance of the financial & legal sectors in those cities? Granted, NYC also has a relatively large union presence I suppose).
Not to mention that she represented the state in the Senate and the Clinton Foundation headquarters is in Harlem.
Isn't that the same hill he had to climb in Michigan though?
Sanders is particularly good at getting young voters to vote. It could easily turn to be another surprise victory for him.
looks like its about to get going now.
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That's one statewide poll. Clinton will probably do quite well in Long Island/westchester, because that's where the olds with money are. They aren't as numerous in NYC itself.
Her ground game in NYC itself hasn't really manifest itself yet.
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NYC is also majority minority and Clinton has dominated urban areas. I'm sure Sanders will do fairly well upstate and in Western NY but I see no reason to believe he can be especially competitive in NYC itself
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Has anyone's? North Carolina primary is March 15, and I have seen almost no signs, stickers or billboards. I'm kind of out of the TV and radio loop, though.
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Clinton is strongly implying but not saying yes. Dunno why she's dancing around it.
Probably because it would be throwing him red meat.
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There's this really nasty cultural trend of calling someone racist is a bigger faux pas than actually being racist.
Yeah, I don't know why.
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