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[Virtual Reality] Rift & Vive out now! darleysam finally receives Reality Escape Helmet
Dhalphir
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Failing that, I'll put something together slowly over the next day or so.
I'm probably still buying a Vive because I'm impatient. But the two headsets are going to be really similar once Touch comes out.
This is the internet, the madness will never end.
Only they could make VR seem dull.
"Nobody ever said the Rift couldn't do "room scale" with just the headset and just one camera, provided the camera is placed properly, the user remains in it's field of vision and also provided the user preemptively sacrifices a goat before every gaming session. What people were saying is that the Rift, with two cameras, with Touch controllers, kills babies."
Edit: Edited for Apple-style marketing gimmicks
Edit Edit: Also, that man's going to be really unhappy when, while crawling on the ground without Chaperone™ or a Front Facing Camera™, he accidentally inserts his head into an active woodchipper.
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No need for any more info; those two pictures alone perfectly capture the outright dominance of [insert preferred device], compared to the weak, flaccid and paltry alternative of [insert less preferred device].
Long live [insert preferred device]!
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I mean, he already smacked his head on his chair! Think of the children!
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some notes
- The Rift is an amazing headset
- There could be more content, but what is there blows any console release out of the water
- Motion controllers are nearly mandatory and the experience won't feel complete until it arrives
As for Rift vs Vive, the consensus on that seems to be that ideally, right now, we'd have the Rift headset with the Vive controllers. Once the Touch controllers come out, the Rift should be the overall better package, but nothing is guaranteed on unreleased hardware.
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I thought the touch controllers were way better than the Vive ones?
Never
*hiccups*?? Never turned around, look at that cord....
Second camera has me worried but we'll see!
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And to bring this can of worms back up, no, trying to launch something from outside of the store simply doesn't work yet, even if you've checked those sliders as hard as possible.
Steam just had an update though.
In most comparisons I've generally seen people prefer the Touch controllers. The two main things people do prefer or appreciate about the Vive controllers are the haptic touchpads and the way they are Actual Things You Can Have Right Now™.
My perfect FrankenVR gen1 mashup would be
From the Rift
From the Vive
From both
I still can't tell if I think Constellation or Lighthouse is superior. Long USB cables for opposing corner Constellation sucks, but I've also heard reports that the Lighthouse method is more picky about reflective surfaces. Time will tell on both methods, I think.
They are trying to play down roomscale because their motion controllers are half a year from release at best.
Right, but they aren't available yet, which is what people mean.
That's because that software isn't updated to work with the new retail SDK. It's nothing to do with the store restrictions.
Yes, Oculus has already mentioned that devs need to push updates to run with the 1.3 SDK. It's unfortunate, but this is the launch version so it makes sense. I have heard reports that launching Elite through their standalone launcher displays the mentioned message AND works after you enable the setting.
EDIT: Damn, beated. Though I will say something interesting I read. Apparently launching the game without the setting enabled displays the message but still starts the game (you can see it on monitor output, if you have it enabled). So if you go in and enable it it'll show up immediately, no need to restart the game you were trying to run.
Port requirement breakdown:
Rift itself: 1 HDMI port and 1 USB 3.0 port
Sensors (only one comes with the Rift right now): 1 USB 3.0 port
Xbox One controller: 1 USB 2.0 port
You shouldn't have any problems.
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Also they probably don't want to get sued if someone stumbles over their chair and dislocates their shoulder, then claims "But Oculus said it was okay!"
I totally expect Oculus to develop their own version of chaperone (the passthrough camera is nice for it, but hardly essential). Until then, advertising the Rift as a room scale device is a huge liability concern.
Where does the third USB 3.0 port come in?
I am glad you appreciate it. I spent many seconds carefully scouring Google picking the top two GIS image results.
The second camera for Touch.
if you have a fairly typical setup with your PC either on your desk or next to it, I would suggest plugging your initial camera into the back of the PC, and using the front USB ports for the headset and controller. later, when Touch is available, you can use the second front USB3.0 port for the second camera so that you can place it behind you for better 360 coverage.
Unless your USB ports are running on unsupported USB controllers. Be sure to run the compatibility tool.
Also, note front ports typically run off a different controller than the back ports on most motherboards (at least in my experience). So be aware that front and rear USB 3.0 ports may not be equal for Rift purposes. Two compatible ports is still plenty, though.
Oh, that's a good point. The back it is, then.
I think they might be, now that I think about it.
While waiting for the Rift over the last weekend, I set my DK1 up again, and ran through a few of the newer demos I hadn't seen before.
My headphones fell off three times during rapid head movement. My headphones don't have a lot of clamping force, but you don't want them to grip too tight or your head will hurt. I think the fact that the Rift headphones are secured next to your ears no matter how vigorously you move, and the fact that they don't clamp your ears, is going to be huge.
I think a lot of people who claim they plan to remove the integrated cans will end up either not doing so, or removing them and then putting them back a few days later, and I think a lot of people with Vives are going to find that they have to use earbuds instead of over ear cans.
Yeah, as someone who hadn't kept up with any of the VR news, I was surprised to hear a mention on the Bombcast this week about how PSVR doesn't have a headphone solution
After reading your post just now though, I put on my Turtle Beach headphones and did some quick jerking head motions to see if it would come off
Thankfully they fit snugly and securely during this process
Mine fit fine when I'm using them alone, it's only when I try to wear them over a headset that they seem to be a bit finicky about staying put. I guess because they sit partially over the strap rather than fitting as snugly around the ears?
I do think that people with headphones on a similar level to Turtle Beach/Plantronics will find the Rift audio better and elect to stick with the Rift audio. And I know the HTC earbuds are reasonably good quality ones.
While I totally plan to use the built in audio solution since it's good enough for me, I just recently finished up a contract with a company working in the higher end audio space. People can be very specific about their audio. If they already have a high end set then I wouldn't exactly fault someone for wanting to use it. For the average user though? The built in audio should absolutely be a pro. Reviews, for the most part, mention it and praise it, it's mostly just people on reddit that seem to feel like it's pointless.
Personally, I have some minor hearing loss from my military days. The differences in audio quality beyond being "good enough" are pretty negligible for me. I also can't stand in-ear buds, so the built in audio is basically perfect for me.
Note, I'm not saying this to blame the Vive in any way. I think it's actually good that we're essentially advancing VR tech by maybe 1/2-1 generation because of Vive, but things in life are rarely fully good nor bad. It just goes back to "what if" thoughts of a timeline where Oculus had gone with Valve instead of Facebook.
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how about. it's showing the worse outcome. then if vive does well next week we know VR is like whoooooa so much better than that rift. then everyone buys vive. PSVR has motion controls too? everyone preorders that. then touch is finally announced in a few months, every knows from vive that motion controls are great then everyone buys that. all three do well.
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Seeing all of these launch streams and reviews has me excited, but the general lack of an absolutely must get, exclusive game makes it an awful lot easier to wait for the next round of GPUs before I jump in.