I've been having some fun running Intel missions and stuff solo. My gear is now good enough that I don't feel embarrassed matchmaking into Challenging missions anymore. Not so sure about matching into Incursions still though.
Interestingly, my best experiences with this game have been when I was just barely above the cut for a given activity. I've always told the groups before hand and each time it has become a "help that guy" kind of thing. I got 4 pieces of sentrys just by saying "hey, never done this before, running lone star right now, I'll focus on rezzing y'all and buffing the group".
Each time has resulted in friend requests and people dropping me stuff they don't need. People can be pretty cool if you give them the chance.
My first Challenging group that wasn't a huge dumpster fire failure was just like playing a normal mission where every enemy was stupidly full of health. Instead of an impossible battle against unstoppable wizard shotgunners. So that WAS fun. It helps that a low geared guy's Smart Cover and healing burst are basically just as good as the guy's with 20 to 30 better gear score.
The brief encounters when you get a group of awesome folks in a pug are really great.
I even had a moment in the DZ where there was two groups of us just rolling through AI encounters. We'd ended up sat on top of each other when taking down a named enemy and instead of the usual tense stand off we just started following each other around the DZ.
Ended up getting disconnected (yay BT internet!) so had to extract a tasty M1A rifle all on my lonesome. Had to run away from 2 extract points since I saw unknown players rocking up on my location. Also got dropped by a wandering band of cleaners, but managed to get back to my gear before anyone poached it. Clearing out my final extract point was no picnic due to the large number of high level AI enemies, but liberal use of medpacs saved the day.
This last bit of gameplay really clarifies the black and white nature of the DZ to me. Since my extract was successful in the end the whole time felt exhilarating with a great payoff at the end. However if I'd ended up with someone stealing my extract, then it would have felt like a waste of the hour or so.
Sadly I'm not sure there's a solution to this dichotomy. Perhaps only dropping some of your DZ items on death? Something to take away from the fact that if you die you lose eeeeverything.
Hopped on over the weekend to tool around and see what's up in the world. Still love the moment-to-moment gameplay, and the intel stuff they've added seems like a cool way to encourage people to get back out into the streets, see some new stuff, and gather phoenix credits.
I tried to run Clear Sky with a couple of pubbies and it was a disaster, so I bounced, disappointed.
I tried to run Clear Sky with a couple of pubbies and it was a disaster, so I bounced, disappointed.
I jumped online the other night for the first time in a while, and I was surprised how bad high gear level pubbies still were. Like if you're still playing that much surely you get good through sheer repetition.
I feel GUILTY. I had an absolute blast with this game, and I had developed and cultivated a solid group of players. I was in my 70's for DZ rank. But I sort of lost interest. I wish they at least had a couple different class-types... to encourage some replays...
Also the news of a Division movie, starring Jake G... sort of cheapens the experience for me?
I feel GUILTY. I had an absolute blast with this game, and I had developed and cultivated a solid group of players. I was in my 70's for DZ rank. But I sort of lost interest. I wish they at least had a couple different class-types... to encourage some replays...
Also the news of a Division movie, starring Jake G... sort of cheapens the experience for me?
Generally agree and I feel guilty too, which is why I keep booting it up, playing for five or ten minutes, and turning it off. Disagree that a movie would cheapen it, unless that movie actually hit theaters and was terrible.
I was running around the BoO this weekend and just thought, "Man, I had a lot of fun with this game, but the experience is basically done. Ubi crafted a good experience for X number of hours, and now I should just move on." It doesn't have MMO legs, but then again, not every game needs that. I platinum'd it and it may just be time to move on. (Annoyed that I bought the season pass, though.)
I was running around the BoO this weekend and just thought, "Man, I had a lot of fun with this game, but the experience is basically done. Ubi crafted a good experience for X number of hours, and now I should just move on." It doesn't have MMO legs, but then again, not every game needs that. I platinum'd it and it may just be time to move on. (Annoyed that I bought the season pass, though.)
That's how I feel. I treated it more like any other Ubisoft open world game. I did all the things, collected all the collectibles, and after that I feel like I had my fill. I could see the game still being fun to pop back into from time to time, but I'm happy enough with what I've played of it.
Luckily I anticipated this outcome and didn't buy the season pass!
I still like to casually follow the goings-on in the game. The underground stuff looks cool for folks still deep into Division.
The Underground stuff looks like the perfect remedy for folks that love the PvE in the DZ, but hate the PvP mechanics there.
Also the fact that the levels will be generated for each run should add a lot of replay value. I wonder how they're going to construct each level. Are we going to to be saying in two weeks after release "Ah yes, this is the 100m straight tunnel with 2 side rooms section. We know how to deal with this".
The Underground stuff looks like the perfect remedy for folks that love the PvE in the DZ, but hate the PvP mechanics there.
Also the fact that the levels will be generated for each run should add a lot of replay value. I wonder how they're going to construct each level. Are we going to to be saying in two weeks after release "Ah yes, this is the 100m straight tunnel with 2 side rooms section. We know how to deal with this".
Will be reading the first underground impressions before I pick up that DLC. If people are loving it i'll snap it up and jump in.
:sad: Hopefully this isnt still the same broken mess it was when I left it last time.
It's a lot better imo
I mean the DZ is still the same luck of the draw experience it always was, especially solo, but it's also no longer the only way to progress your character.
That said I'm done playing until underground launches. I'm sitting at 2000 phoenix credits with nothing to buy and I've about maxed out what I can get from soloing the High Value Targets with the Lone Star drop rate being what it is.
Please note that you must own the Underground DLC to gain access to this content. This is available on June 28 for Xbox One and PC, and August 2 for PlayStation 4.
Underground
•There is a secret war going on in the uncharted and claustrophobic depths of Manhattan. Root out the threat and earn unique rewards.
•Explore the Underground of New York in solo play or up to four player co-op.
•Operations: Experience randomly generated levels with all new environmental hazards and traps.
•Directives: Add a unique twist to your gameplay experience by changing the rules of engagement for both your enemies and your own team and combine more Directives to unlock better rewards.
•Underground Rank: Earn Underground experience and climb in Rank to unlock new Directives, Operation types, and exclusive Vanity Items.
New Incursion: Dragon’s Nest
•Travel to Hell’s Kitchen and investigate rumors of a new Cleaner weapon that can wreak havoc throughout Manhattan.
•You must be level 30 and have completed the mission "General Assembly" to access the incursion.
•The encounter is balanced for a team of four players outfitted with high-level gear.
•Heroic Mode will be available one week after release.
New Gear Sets and Weapons
•Added four new Gear Sets: •B.L.I.N.D. – Control the battlefield with an improved Pulse skill and flashbangs with this hybrid gear set.
•DeadEYE – Dictate long-range engagements with powerful critical strikes or accurate headshots.
•FireCrest – Set your enemies ablaze with this offensive gear set.
•Reclaimer – Boost your entire group with the ultimate support set.
•Added one new Weapon: •B.L.I.N.D. System MDR Rifle: Please note that while it will be implemented in the game, you will not be able to acquire it until a future update.
Update 1.3
The following content, changes, and bug fixes are available for Xbox One and PC players on June 28th. Unfortunately this patch has been delayed on PlayStation 4. Expect more information soon.
New Features
New Gear Sets
•Added one new Gear Set: •AlphaBridge – Take advantage of all your equipped weapon talents with this powerful set.
•Added a new High-End named weapon: •The Showstopper: A unique full-auto shotgun that’s perfect for close-quarter combat.
Heroic Mode and Challenge Mode Missions
•Added Challenge mode difficulty for two new main missions: •Hudson Refugee Camp
•Queens Tunnel Camp
•Added a new Heroic mode difficulty: •Fight even stronger enemies to unlock top tier rewards.
•Available for the Main Missions: Refugee Camp, Queen’s Tunnel Camp, Russian Consulate, Lincoln Tunnel Checkpoint, Lexington Event Center, and WarrenGate Power Plant.
•Available for the Incursions: Falcon Lost, Clear Sky, and Dragon’s Nest. Please note that Dragon’s Nest Heroic Mode will be made available the week after release for Underground owners.
•Daily Missions do not support the Heroic difficulty.
Base of Operations Extension
•The Terminal is a new shared social space inside the Base of Operations.
•The Terminal can be found in the back of the base, next to the Reward Claim Vendor.
•Visit High-Value Target contractors and all new Vendors.
•The Special Equipment Vendor has been split into two vendors within the Terminal, Items Vendor and Blueprint Vendor.
•Players can also Fast Travel directly to The Terminal.
Weapon Recalibration
•You can now recalibrate one of your Weapon Talents at the recalibration bench.
•Recalibrating a weapon talent requires Weapon Kits and Phoenix Credits. Weapon Kits can be acquired through drops in the game or crafted.
Game Changes
Gameplay
•Added a new Dark Zone bracket for 231+ Gear Score.
•Player stash size has been increased to 70 total slots (including Base of Operation upgrades).
•Level 30 players will now only encounter level 30 or higher enemy NPCs in Free Roam.
•Rebalanced NPC’s weak points to be more consistent across the board. This impacts the amount of damage needed to trigger them and the amount of damage it does when triggered.
•You can now convert three High-End Division Tech to one of any High-End crafting material.
•Reduced the Phoenix Credit costs of 204 High-End and 240 Gear Set items and blueprints.
•The Special Equipment Vendor in the Tech Wing only sells items now and will no longer sell Blueprints. Blueprints have been moved to a new vendor in The Terminal.
•You can no longer share an item that you have equipped.
•Adjustments have been made to NPC threat lists that caused players to stay in combat for large periods of time. You will now leave combat after reaching a certain distance away from the enemy or after a set amount of time.
•Players will now be disconnected from the game server if they are inactive for 15 minutes or longer.
•Players can now matchmake from inside no-respawn areas and can fast travel into activities while the group is in a no-respawn area.
•You can no longer kick a group member in a boss fight and up to one minute after it has been completed. This restriction does not apply to group members who are AFK or outside the mission area.
•All players must now be present in the final Circle in Clear Sky before you can interact with the laptop and fuses.
•NPCs located in the final Circle in Clear Sky will instantly respawn once killed until players enter the area.
•Players can no longer deploy Mobile Cover skill while they are performing a Cover-to-Cover move.
•Exotic Damage Resilience is now capped at 90%.
Weapons
These changes only impact weapons acquired after Update 1.3 unless stated otherwise.
•Added unique bonuses to several weapon families: •LMG – Increased damage to targets out of cover by X%.
•Shotguns – Added a chance to stagger NPCs. This will not affect other players.
•Assault Rifles – Added an enemy armor damage bonus. This does not impact damage done to other players.
•Changed the weapon bonus on SMGs from a % crit hit chance to % crit hit damage.
•Increased the base damage of Shotguns.
•Decreased the damage done by the AUG and Vector. This impacts all new and existing ones.
•Increased the minimum accuracy cap on the M1A. When shooting consistently, the crosshair will grow to a much larger size than it previously did. This impacts all new and existing M1As.
•The damage done by Explosive bullets has been reduced.
•The status effect of Incendiary bullets has been reduced against other players.
Items
•Every gear piece now has a set number of mod slots that can’t be recalibrated. This change only affects gear that drops after Update 1.3. Each gear piece will now have: •Chest: 2 mod slots
•Mask: 1 mod slot
•Kneepad: 1 mod slot
•Backpack: 1 mod slot
•Gloves : 0 mod slots
•Holster: 0 mod slots
•Holsters will now always have all three attributes.
•Sentry’s Call and Striker’s Battlegear gear sets have had their two-set and three-set bonus reduced, and we have added a new five-set bonus. The four-set bonuses have not been changed. •Sentry’s Call bonuses were: •2 Set: +30% Headshot Damage
•3 Set: +20% Damage to Elites
•Sentry’s Call bonuses are now: •Sentry’s Call 2 Set: +10% Headshot Damage
•Sentry’s Call 3 Set: +10% Damage to Elites
•Sentry’s Call 5 Set: +20% Headshot Damage and +10% Damage to Elites
•Striker’s Battlegear bonuses are now •Striker’s Battlegear 2 Set: +10% Enemy Armor Damage
•Striker’s Battlegear 3 Set: +20% Critical Hit Damage
•Striker’s Battlegear 5 Set: +10% Enemy Armor Damage and +30% Critical Hit Damage
Dark Zone
•The 231+ Gear Score Dark Zone bracket will include more powerful NPCs. •DZ 01-02 NPC lvl 33
•DZ 03-04 NPC lvl 34
•DZ 05-06 NPC lvl 35
•DZ 05-06 in Gear Score bracket 201-230 will now have a chance to drop Gear Score 229 High Ends and 268 Gear Sets.
•Dark Zone chests now scale better with the Gear Score bracket and the named zone you are in.
Loot Changes
•The High-Risk High-Value Targets have had their rewards and difficulty adjusted to take into account the Gear Score increase.
•Normalized loot drops from Main Missions in Challenge mode.
•Caduceus can now drop from Hard Mode Mission bosses.
•Normal mode Missions now drop Superior items.
•Green Division Tech will no longer drop in the Dark Zone after level 30.
UI
•Added a base weapon damage value that makes it easier to compare weapons.
•Gear mods and weapon mods are now combined in the same inventory display.
•Added a new inventory slot for Misc.
•Improved the visibility of Supply Drops on the Mega Map.
Bug Fixes
•Fixed a bug where the Predator 4-set bleed effect would not trigger the Shrapnel player talent.
•Fixed a bug where a player using a med-kit while having the combat medic talent equipped would result in destroying allied skills proxy.
•Fixed a bug where using a med-kit while having the combat medic talent equipped would heal the player using it for 40% more health instead of just their allies.
•Fixed a bug where EMP grenades would not always trigger the Final Measure four-set defuse effect.
•Fixed a bug where the Operation ISAC timer was showing the incorrect time.
•Predatory weapon talent now correctly uses the player’s Health as the base of the healing amount, instead of the target’s Health.
•Fixed a bug where the Survivor Link Signature Skill would increase the movement speed while moving backwards and carrying an item.
•Fixed a bug where the Ballistic Shield would lose its hitbox after the player performed a roll move.
•Fixed a bug where the Ballistic Shield would become invincible after opening and closing the inventory.
•Fixed a bug where Pulse would sometimes not detect NPCs in range.
•Fixed a bug that caused loot containers to sometimes not be detected by Pulse when using the Recon Pack modification.
•Fixed a bug that allowed players to go through objects by deploying the Mobile Cover at the top of stairs.
•Fixed a bug where NPC skirmishes could start while a Supply Drop event was underway in that same location.
•Fixed Supply Drop notifications and mission tracker inconsistencies.
•Fixed a bug that allowed Explosive Bullets to sometimes damage players behind cover.
•Fixed a bug where sometimes the damage shown by the weapon blueprint is higher than the actual damage of the crafted weapon.
•Fixed a bug where sending a group invite to a player from the suggested list would make that player visible on the megamap in the Dark Zone.
•Fixed VoIP chat causing lag and freezes in the Dark Zone.
•Fixed a bug where surplus Division Tech rewarded in Sealed Caches would not drop to the ground if the player had reached Division Tech resource limit in their pouches.
•Fixed a bug where sometimes players could not pick up currency drops from enemy NPCs.
•Fixed a bug where the Rogue icon would stay on the map after the Rogue player was eliminated.
•Fixed a bug where players could use the Ballistic Shield skill to break the collision with the Dark Zone Checkpoint doors and enter the Checkpoint while Rogue.
•Fixed a bug where players would be teleported out of an electronics shop inside Clinton map area.
•Fixed a bug where the player could exit the playable map area in Napalm Production Site mission.
•Fixed a bug in Napalm Production Site where sometimes the first objective would not complete if players killed the NPCs and Napalm tank with a single Sticky Bomb.
•Fixed an FPS issue during the explosion sequence in Napalm Production Site.
•Fixed a bug where players would be considered outside the playable map area and teleported out in DZ06.
•Fixed a bug where sometimes players would take damage when climbing a ladder in DZ01.
•Fixed several character collision issues in Precinct Siege mission in Brooklyn.
•Fixed a bug where the Critical Search and Destroy mission icon would not display on the Megamap.
•Fixed a bug where High Value Target NPCs could shoot through walls in Flatiron District.
•Fixed a bug where the High-Value Target mission in Hell’s Kitchen would sometimes lock loot behind a door.
•Fixed a rare bug where a group of Level 1 NPCs would spawn in DZ04.
•Fixed a bug where sometimes the Deconstruction UI pop-up would overlap the Crafting Table menu.
•Fixed a bug where you could recalibrate an attribute to a value outside of what was displayed in the UI.
•Fixed a bug that would sometimes cause numbers to be rounded incorrectly.
•Fixed a bug where sometimes reloading wouldn't take extended magazines into consideration.
•Fixed a bug where ending reload animations would not play.
•Fixed a bug where the player would be stuck in the blind fire position for too long.
•Fixed a bug where player would see the fall damage warning on non-movement interactions.
•Fixed the color of vanity loot drops when viewed in the game world from afar.
•Fixed some audio propagation bugs for Fragmentation Grenade and player gunshots while in the Dark Zone.
•Fixed several subtitle localization issues for interactions with JTF patrols.
•Fixed a bug where friends were not visible on the megamap when not grouped.
•Fixed a rare issue where the mission UI would disappear following a mission failure.
•Minor text corrections for a few items in the in-game store.
•Fixed a bug where the Moon was upside down.
PC SPECIFIC
•Improvements to consumable and grenade selection wheel navigation.
•Added new key binding options for instant skill use (self-cast).
•Player kills are now announced in local chat, including the player usernames.
•Increased size of ignore list for chat and old entries are now pushed off the end of the list (removed).
•Fixed the UI notifications for the High-Value Target vendor.
•Fixed a bug where the mouse wheel would not scroll the Gear Mod inventory screen.
•Fixed a bug where the scrollbar would not return to the top of the pane when players changed blueprint selections in any vendor inventory screen.
•Tobii eye-tracking: Separated Aim-At-Gaze and Cover-At-Gaze options.
So, it seems to have gotten more stable. I had some issues with trying to get the initial operation, as I was clicking A to advance through screens....and not X to advance through the screens and start the mission. I plowed the first mission on normal mode and got a cache, a POS 163 or so off the boss. The cache had a 204 G36 AR which was nice. I started another mission and after about 15 minutes or so, I died....and got kicked back to the TOC. Thing is, nothing had dropped during the mission because mobs don't really drop loot. So I 'wasted' 15 minutes, as much as you can waste time while playing a video game. Started another mission, got a ways in and had an enemy group spawn all around me...died again, back to TOC.
Feels bad. Shouldn't happen. Rather they incentivized me for not dying, than penalized me for dying.
edit: forget this, back to skyrim for now. Just wasted an hour on a mission and got two shotted by a shotgun rusher.
edit: "defend this dumbass jtf agent who runs around the center of a room surrounded by assholes"
I did find if you push into a room of guys, you can sometimes double back and they just despawn. So uh, yeah. Finished an operation where I had to kill a ginormous cleaner at the end. I backed off to a choke point that was largely rubble+fire that they wouldn't cross, instead they piled into a train car with a closed door. I shot them through the window in the door annnnnnd got a 187 pistol. Chest at the end was a 187 vest that I didn't get which was my fault, I open the door to end the mission and then saw the chest, opened it, loot popped annnnd boom, back to the TOC.
phew.. fog of war is tricky, I unlocked it and gave it a go on Normal, I can see how it would cause some serious issues if you are playing higher. Pulsing to keep an eye on mobs before you enter but when they are spawning in from around the map, you dont really know where they are coming from. `
Enjoying it so far though, died once in an hard mission, that kinda sucked.
anything ps4 should exploit before the patch hits in a month since we know details now?
I don't think the patch delay is associated with the expansion content. Or at least it would be silly and... uh... actually nevermind.
Those slot adjustments on gear are interesting and disappointing. Naturally, the expansion has achievements... @Siralis :hydra:
edit: they're all flagged as secret and I can't login to TA to check atm.
I appreciate that you remembered me talking about potential new Division achievements some time ago, but I did already list the new achievements in a spoiler like six posts above yours. :razz:
I guess one of my friends will be happy about this, he is still playing The Division and he knows I'll be back for achievements and bring our 3rd friend along with me.
anything ps4 should exploit before the patch hits in a month since we know details now?
I don't think the patch delay is associated with the expansion content. Or at least it would be silly and... uh... actually nevermind.
Those slot adjustments on gear are interesting and disappointing. Naturally, the expansion has achievements... Siralis :hydra:
edit: they're all flagged as secret and I can't login to TA to check atm.
I appreciate that you remembered me talking about potential new Division achievements some time ago, but I did already list the new achievements in a spoiler like six posts above yours. :razz:
I guess one of my friends will be happy about this, he is still playing The Division and he knows I'll be back for achievements and bring our 3rd friend along with me.
I merely invoked my forumer right to not read any of the prior posts before posting a response of my own. :P
“I used to draw, hard to admit that I used to draw...”
@Brogey Just run to the mission, finish it and head back to your Base of Operations....and then you basically don't have to leave or use the map. They know about the map thing, they're working on a fix. The stuck in the emote thing is still there tho!
So I came to some final room with ~5 guys one being a boss. Game says, "Destroy the supplies in there inside of a minute, for reasons." Pop security link, run in and up the stairs, shoot the crates twice with a shotgun....run around the boss and hop over the edge, pop medikit and back outside. Proceed to shoot those assholes from outside the room for about 4 to 5 minutes and win, get a 214 Striker's pack and some garbo 187 SMG from the crate.
Oh, I see how it's gonna be, I just gotta play unfair to win. Well, I can do that.
So I came to some final room with ~5 guys one being a boss. Game says, "Destroy the supplies in there inside of a minute, for reasons." Pop security link, run in and up the stairs, shoot the crates twice with a shotgun....run around the boss and hop over the edge, pop medikit and back outside. Proceed to shoot those assholes from outside the room for about 4 to 5 minutes and win, get a 214 Striker's pack and some garbo 187 SMG from the crate.
Oh, I see how it's gonna be, I just gotta play unfair to win. Well, I can do that.
Man it's the AI what are you doing trying to play fair? I abuse the AI's inability to figure out soft cover constantly lol
Man in that case note to self watch the fuck out for snipers. I mean they hurt in the missions and in the incursions for sure but not one shot levels of hurt
OK so Underground is basically nephalem rifts? I'm kind of into it, would be up for running some of the harder difficulties with other PC dudes.
Still never done any of the incursions either.
WHA?
I still check this thread despite not playing this since like a month after release because I want to like The Division again but this is the first thing I've seen that might bring me back.
Time to research exactly what Underground is adding to the game and how much time I would need to put into this to catch up
OK so Underground is basically nephalem rifts? I'm kind of into it, would be up for running some of the harder difficulties with other PC dudes.
Still never done any of the incursions either.
WHA?
I still check this thread despite not playing this since like a month after release because I want to like The Division again but this is the first thing I've seen that might bring me back.
Time to research exactly what Underground is adding to the game and how much time I would need to put into this to catch up
Yeah, you select an operation which could be up to three phases and can add modifiers using intel you pick up from previous runs. These make the runs harder in various ways but get you more XP.
The XP is used for underground ranks which gate your ability to select harder ops. Has a PVE dark zone feel to it too.
It's like rifts, lite. You need to rank up to really open it up. It starts by being able to do basic 15 to 20 minute runs, but later you can add difficulty mods and extra phases to ramp it up to an hour - say, 15 to 20 minutes per phase, 3 phases max.
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My first Challenging group that wasn't a huge dumpster fire failure was just like playing a normal mission where every enemy was stupidly full of health. Instead of an impossible battle against unstoppable wizard shotgunners. So that WAS fun. It helps that a low geared guy's Smart Cover and healing burst are basically just as good as the guy's with 20 to 30 better gear score.
I even had a moment in the DZ where there was two groups of us just rolling through AI encounters. We'd ended up sat on top of each other when taking down a named enemy and instead of the usual tense stand off we just started following each other around the DZ.
Ended up getting disconnected (yay BT internet!) so had to extract a tasty M1A rifle all on my lonesome. Had to run away from 2 extract points since I saw unknown players rocking up on my location. Also got dropped by a wandering band of cleaners, but managed to get back to my gear before anyone poached it. Clearing out my final extract point was no picnic due to the large number of high level AI enemies, but liberal use of medpacs saved the day.
This last bit of gameplay really clarifies the black and white nature of the DZ to me. Since my extract was successful in the end the whole time felt exhilarating with a great payoff at the end. However if I'd ended up with someone stealing my extract, then it would have felt like a waste of the hour or so.
Sadly I'm not sure there's a solution to this dichotomy. Perhaps only dropping some of your DZ items on death? Something to take away from the fact that if you die you lose eeeeverything.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pablocampy
I tried to run Clear Sky with a couple of pubbies and it was a disaster, so I bounced, disappointed.
I jumped online the other night for the first time in a while, and I was surprised how bad high gear level pubbies still were. Like if you're still playing that much surely you get good through sheer repetition.
I feel GUILTY. I had an absolute blast with this game, and I had developed and cultivated a solid group of players. I was in my 70's for DZ rank. But I sort of lost interest. I wish they at least had a couple different class-types... to encourage some replays...
Also the news of a Division movie, starring Jake G... sort of cheapens the experience for me?
Godspeed, Ironsides.
Generally agree and I feel guilty too, which is why I keep booting it up, playing for five or ten minutes, and turning it off. Disagree that a movie would cheapen it, unless that movie actually hit theaters and was terrible.
I was running around the BoO this weekend and just thought, "Man, I had a lot of fun with this game, but the experience is basically done. Ubi crafted a good experience for X number of hours, and now I should just move on." It doesn't have MMO legs, but then again, not every game needs that. I platinum'd it and it may just be time to move on. (Annoyed that I bought the season pass, though.)
Whoops.
That's how I feel. I treated it more like any other Ubisoft open world game. I did all the things, collected all the collectibles, and after that I feel like I had my fill. I could see the game still being fun to pop back into from time to time, but I'm happy enough with what I've played of it.
Luckily I anticipated this outcome and didn't buy the season pass!
I still like to casually follow the goings-on in the game. The underground stuff looks cool for folks still deep into Division.
Also the fact that the levels will be generated for each run should add a lot of replay value. I wonder how they're going to construct each level. Are we going to to be saying in two weeks after release "Ah yes, this is the 100m straight tunnel with 2 side rooms section. We know how to deal with this".
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pablocampy
Will be reading the first underground impressions before I pick up that DLC. If people are loving it i'll snap it up and jump in.
a list of the upcoming patch changes.
:sad: Hopefully this isnt still the same broken mess it was when I left it last time.
It's a lot better imo
I mean the DZ is still the same luck of the draw experience it always was, especially solo, but it's also no longer the only way to progress your character.
That said I'm done playing until underground launches. I'm sitting at 2000 phoenix credits with nothing to buy and I've about maxed out what I can get from soloing the High Value Targets with the Lone Star drop rate being what it is.
Please note that you must own the Underground DLC to gain access to this content. This is available on June 28 for Xbox One and PC, and August 2 for PlayStation 4.
Underground
•There is a secret war going on in the uncharted and claustrophobic depths of Manhattan. Root out the threat and earn unique rewards.
•Explore the Underground of New York in solo play or up to four player co-op.
•Operations: Experience randomly generated levels with all new environmental hazards and traps.
•Directives: Add a unique twist to your gameplay experience by changing the rules of engagement for both your enemies and your own team and combine more Directives to unlock better rewards.
•Underground Rank: Earn Underground experience and climb in Rank to unlock new Directives, Operation types, and exclusive Vanity Items.
New Incursion: Dragon’s Nest
•Travel to Hell’s Kitchen and investigate rumors of a new Cleaner weapon that can wreak havoc throughout Manhattan.
•You must be level 30 and have completed the mission "General Assembly" to access the incursion.
•The encounter is balanced for a team of four players outfitted with high-level gear.
•Heroic Mode will be available one week after release.
New Gear Sets and Weapons
•Added four new Gear Sets: •B.L.I.N.D. – Control the battlefield with an improved Pulse skill and flashbangs with this hybrid gear set.
•DeadEYE – Dictate long-range engagements with powerful critical strikes or accurate headshots.
•FireCrest – Set your enemies ablaze with this offensive gear set.
•Reclaimer – Boost your entire group with the ultimate support set.
•Added one new Weapon: •B.L.I.N.D. System MDR Rifle: Please note that while it will be implemented in the game, you will not be able to acquire it until a future update.
Update 1.3
The following content, changes, and bug fixes are available for Xbox One and PC players on June 28th. Unfortunately this patch has been delayed on PlayStation 4. Expect more information soon.
New Features
New Gear Sets
•Added one new Gear Set: •AlphaBridge – Take advantage of all your equipped weapon talents with this powerful set.
New High-End Weapons and Weapon Types
•Added nine new weapon types: •Military G36 Assault Rifle
•G36C Assault Rifle
•G36 Enhanced Assault Rifle
•Surplus SVD Marksman Rifle
•Paratrooper SVD Marksman Rifle
•PP-19 Submachine Gun
•Enhanced PP-19 Submachine Gun
•X-45 Pistol
•First Wave X-45 Pistol
•Added a new High-End named weapon: •The Showstopper: A unique full-auto shotgun that’s perfect for close-quarter combat.
Heroic Mode and Challenge Mode Missions
•Added Challenge mode difficulty for two new main missions: •Hudson Refugee Camp
•Queens Tunnel Camp
•Added a new Heroic mode difficulty: •Fight even stronger enemies to unlock top tier rewards.
•Available for the Main Missions: Refugee Camp, Queen’s Tunnel Camp, Russian Consulate, Lincoln Tunnel Checkpoint, Lexington Event Center, and WarrenGate Power Plant.
•Available for the Incursions: Falcon Lost, Clear Sky, and Dragon’s Nest. Please note that Dragon’s Nest Heroic Mode will be made available the week after release for Underground owners.
•Daily Missions do not support the Heroic difficulty.
Base of Operations Extension
•The Terminal is a new shared social space inside the Base of Operations.
•The Terminal can be found in the back of the base, next to the Reward Claim Vendor.
•Visit High-Value Target contractors and all new Vendors.
•The Special Equipment Vendor has been split into two vendors within the Terminal, Items Vendor and Blueprint Vendor.
•Players can also Fast Travel directly to The Terminal.
Weapon Recalibration
•You can now recalibrate one of your Weapon Talents at the recalibration bench.
•Recalibrating a weapon talent requires Weapon Kits and Phoenix Credits. Weapon Kits can be acquired through drops in the game or crafted.
Game Changes
Gameplay
•Added a new Dark Zone bracket for 231+ Gear Score.
•Player stash size has been increased to 70 total slots (including Base of Operation upgrades).
•Level 30 players will now only encounter level 30 or higher enemy NPCs in Free Roam.
•Rebalanced NPC’s weak points to be more consistent across the board. This impacts the amount of damage needed to trigger them and the amount of damage it does when triggered.
•You can now convert three High-End Division Tech to one of any High-End crafting material.
•Reduced the Phoenix Credit costs of 204 High-End and 240 Gear Set items and blueprints.
•The Special Equipment Vendor in the Tech Wing only sells items now and will no longer sell Blueprints. Blueprints have been moved to a new vendor in The Terminal.
•You can no longer share an item that you have equipped.
•Adjustments have been made to NPC threat lists that caused players to stay in combat for large periods of time. You will now leave combat after reaching a certain distance away from the enemy or after a set amount of time.
•Players will now be disconnected from the game server if they are inactive for 15 minutes or longer.
•Players can now matchmake from inside no-respawn areas and can fast travel into activities while the group is in a no-respawn area.
•You can no longer kick a group member in a boss fight and up to one minute after it has been completed. This restriction does not apply to group members who are AFK or outside the mission area.
•All players must now be present in the final Circle in Clear Sky before you can interact with the laptop and fuses.
•NPCs located in the final Circle in Clear Sky will instantly respawn once killed until players enter the area.
•Players can no longer deploy Mobile Cover skill while they are performing a Cover-to-Cover move.
•Exotic Damage Resilience is now capped at 90%.
Weapons
These changes only impact weapons acquired after Update 1.3 unless stated otherwise.
•Added unique bonuses to several weapon families: •LMG – Increased damage to targets out of cover by X%.
•Shotguns – Added a chance to stagger NPCs. This will not affect other players.
•Assault Rifles – Added an enemy armor damage bonus. This does not impact damage done to other players.
•Changed the weapon bonus on SMGs from a % crit hit chance to % crit hit damage.
•Increased the base damage of Shotguns.
•Decreased the damage done by the AUG and Vector. This impacts all new and existing ones.
•Increased the minimum accuracy cap on the M1A. When shooting consistently, the crosshair will grow to a much larger size than it previously did. This impacts all new and existing M1As.
•The damage done by Explosive bullets has been reduced.
•The status effect of Incendiary bullets has been reduced against other players.
Items
•Every gear piece now has a set number of mod slots that can’t be recalibrated. This change only affects gear that drops after Update 1.3. Each gear piece will now have: •Chest: 2 mod slots
•Mask: 1 mod slot
•Kneepad: 1 mod slot
•Backpack: 1 mod slot
•Gloves : 0 mod slots
•Holster: 0 mod slots
•Holsters will now always have all three attributes.
•Sentry’s Call and Striker’s Battlegear gear sets have had their two-set and three-set bonus reduced, and we have added a new five-set bonus. The four-set bonuses have not been changed. •Sentry’s Call bonuses were: •2 Set: +30% Headshot Damage
•3 Set: +20% Damage to Elites
•Sentry’s Call bonuses are now: •Sentry’s Call 2 Set: +10% Headshot Damage
•Sentry’s Call 3 Set: +10% Damage to Elites
•Sentry’s Call 5 Set: +20% Headshot Damage and +10% Damage to Elites
•Striker’s Battlegear bonuses were: •2 Set: +20% Enemy Armor Damage
•3 Set: +50% Critical Hit Damage
•Striker’s Battlegear bonuses are now •Striker’s Battlegear 2 Set: +10% Enemy Armor Damage
•Striker’s Battlegear 3 Set: +20% Critical Hit Damage
•Striker’s Battlegear 5 Set: +10% Enemy Armor Damage and +30% Critical Hit Damage
Dark Zone
•The 231+ Gear Score Dark Zone bracket will include more powerful NPCs. •DZ 01-02 NPC lvl 33
•DZ 03-04 NPC lvl 34
•DZ 05-06 NPC lvl 35
•DZ 05-06 in Gear Score bracket 201-230 will now have a chance to drop Gear Score 229 High Ends and 268 Gear Sets.
•Dark Zone chests now scale better with the Gear Score bracket and the named zone you are in.
Loot Changes
•The High-Risk High-Value Targets have had their rewards and difficulty adjusted to take into account the Gear Score increase.
•Normalized loot drops from Main Missions in Challenge mode.
•Caduceus can now drop from Hard Mode Mission bosses.
•Normal mode Missions now drop Superior items.
•Green Division Tech will no longer drop in the Dark Zone after level 30.
UI
•Added a base weapon damage value that makes it easier to compare weapons.
•Gear mods and weapon mods are now combined in the same inventory display.
•Added a new inventory slot for Misc.
•Improved the visibility of Supply Drops on the Mega Map.
Bug Fixes
•Fixed a bug where the Predator 4-set bleed effect would not trigger the Shrapnel player talent.
•Fixed a bug where a player using a med-kit while having the combat medic talent equipped would result in destroying allied skills proxy.
•Fixed a bug where using a med-kit while having the combat medic talent equipped would heal the player using it for 40% more health instead of just their allies.
•Fixed a bug where EMP grenades would not always trigger the Final Measure four-set defuse effect.
•Fixed a bug where the Operation ISAC timer was showing the incorrect time.
•Predatory weapon talent now correctly uses the player’s Health as the base of the healing amount, instead of the target’s Health.
•Fixed a bug where the Survivor Link Signature Skill would increase the movement speed while moving backwards and carrying an item.
•Fixed a bug where the Ballistic Shield would lose its hitbox after the player performed a roll move.
•Fixed a bug where the Ballistic Shield would become invincible after opening and closing the inventory.
•Fixed a bug where Pulse would sometimes not detect NPCs in range.
•Fixed a bug that caused loot containers to sometimes not be detected by Pulse when using the Recon Pack modification.
•Fixed a bug that allowed players to go through objects by deploying the Mobile Cover at the top of stairs.
•Fixed a bug where NPC skirmishes could start while a Supply Drop event was underway in that same location.
•Fixed Supply Drop notifications and mission tracker inconsistencies.
•Fixed a bug that allowed Explosive Bullets to sometimes damage players behind cover.
•Fixed a bug where sometimes the damage shown by the weapon blueprint is higher than the actual damage of the crafted weapon.
•Fixed a bug where sending a group invite to a player from the suggested list would make that player visible on the megamap in the Dark Zone.
•Fixed VoIP chat causing lag and freezes in the Dark Zone.
•Fixed a bug where surplus Division Tech rewarded in Sealed Caches would not drop to the ground if the player had reached Division Tech resource limit in their pouches.
•Fixed a bug where sometimes players could not pick up currency drops from enemy NPCs.
•Fixed a bug where the Rogue icon would stay on the map after the Rogue player was eliminated.
•Fixed a bug where players could use the Ballistic Shield skill to break the collision with the Dark Zone Checkpoint doors and enter the Checkpoint while Rogue.
•Fixed a bug where players would be teleported out of an electronics shop inside Clinton map area.
•Fixed a bug where the player could exit the playable map area in Napalm Production Site mission.
•Fixed a bug in Napalm Production Site where sometimes the first objective would not complete if players killed the NPCs and Napalm tank with a single Sticky Bomb.
•Fixed an FPS issue during the explosion sequence in Napalm Production Site.
•Fixed a bug where players would be considered outside the playable map area and teleported out in DZ06.
•Fixed a bug where sometimes players would take damage when climbing a ladder in DZ01.
•Fixed several character collision issues in Precinct Siege mission in Brooklyn.
•Fixed a bug where the Critical Search and Destroy mission icon would not display on the Megamap.
•Fixed a bug where High Value Target NPCs could shoot through walls in Flatiron District.
•Fixed a bug where the High-Value Target mission in Hell’s Kitchen would sometimes lock loot behind a door.
•Fixed a rare bug where a group of Level 1 NPCs would spawn in DZ04.
•Fixed a bug where sometimes the Deconstruction UI pop-up would overlap the Crafting Table menu.
•Fixed a bug where you could recalibrate an attribute to a value outside of what was displayed in the UI.
•Fixed a bug that would sometimes cause numbers to be rounded incorrectly.
•Fixed a bug where sometimes reloading wouldn't take extended magazines into consideration.
•Fixed a bug where ending reload animations would not play.
•Fixed a bug where the player would be stuck in the blind fire position for too long.
•Fixed a bug where player would see the fall damage warning on non-movement interactions.
•Fixed the color of vanity loot drops when viewed in the game world from afar.
•Fixed some audio propagation bugs for Fragmentation Grenade and player gunshots while in the Dark Zone.
•Fixed several subtitle localization issues for interactions with JTF patrols.
•Fixed a bug where friends were not visible on the megamap when not grouped.
•Fixed a rare issue where the mission UI would disappear following a mission failure.
•Minor text corrections for a few items in the in-game store.
•Fixed a bug where the Moon was upside down.
PC SPECIFIC
•Improvements to consumable and grenade selection wheel navigation.
•Added new key binding options for instant skill use (self-cast).
•Player kills are now announced in local chat, including the player usernames.
•Increased size of ignore list for chat and old entries are now pushed off the end of the list (removed).
•Fixed the UI notifications for the High-Value Target vendor.
•Fixed a bug where the mouse wheel would not scroll the Gear Mod inventory screen.
•Fixed a bug where the scrollbar would not return to the top of the pane when players changed blueprint selections in any vendor inventory screen.
•Tobii eye-tracking: Separated Aim-At-Gaze and Cover-At-Gaze options.
Feels bad. Shouldn't happen. Rather they incentivized me for not dying, than penalized me for dying.
edit: forget this, back to skyrim for now. Just wasted an hour on a mission and got two shotted by a shotgun rusher.
edit: "defend this dumbass jtf agent who runs around the center of a room surrounded by assholes"
I did find if you push into a room of guys, you can sometimes double back and they just despawn. So uh, yeah. Finished an operation where I had to kill a ginormous cleaner at the end. I backed off to a choke point that was largely rubble+fire that they wouldn't cross, instead they piled into a train car with a closed door. I shot them through the window in the door annnnnnd got a 187 pistol. Chest at the end was a 187 vest that I didn't get which was my fault, I open the door to end the mission and then saw the chest, opened it, loot popped annnnd boom, back to the TOC.
So far, solo wise it's a rather poor impression.
Enjoying it so far though, died once in an hard mission, that kinda sucked.
I don't think the patch delay is associated with the expansion content. Or at least it would be silly and... uh... actually nevermind.
Those slot adjustments on gear are interesting and disappointing. Naturally, the expansion has achievements... @Siralis :hydra:
edit: they're all flagged as secret and I can't login to TA to check atm.
I appreciate that you remembered me talking about potential new Division achievements some time ago, but I did already list the new achievements in a spoiler like six posts above yours. :razz:
I guess one of my friends will be happy about this, he is still playing The Division and he knows I'll be back for achievements and bring our 3rd friend along with me.
Oh wait, my map doesn't load? I can't find missions?!
Cool...
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That sounds like The Division experience alright!
I merely invoked my forumer right to not read any of the prior posts before posting a response of my own. :P
Oh, I see how it's gonna be, I just gotta play unfair to win. Well, I can do that.
Man it's the AI what are you doing trying to play fair? I abuse the AI's inability to figure out soft cover constantly lol
hahaha oh my god that's amazing
also annoying but mostly I'm just laughing right now because ffs people
Less annoying, but still lawl
I will never bother with Challenging anything. Heroic can fuck right off.
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Oh thank goodness
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Was that challenging or heroic?
Also what's your current armor out of curiosity
Challenging.
Whatever armor cap is, so 75% mitigation.
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edit: also, yeah it happened again
Still never done any of the incursions either.
WHA?
I still check this thread despite not playing this since like a month after release because I want to like The Division again but this is the first thing I've seen that might bring me back.
Time to research exactly what Underground is adding to the game and how much time I would need to put into this to catch up
Yeah, you select an operation which could be up to three phases and can add modifiers using intel you pick up from previous runs. These make the runs harder in various ways but get you more XP.
The XP is used for underground ranks which gate your ability to select harder ops. Has a PVE dark zone feel to it too.