Yeah, so all this stuff about being "illegal" is pretty weak then. After all, plenty of US Politicians have managed to get elected from jail before, so fines certainly aren't going to do diddly in this election.
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It pokes some holes in his whole nationalistic xenophobic platform if he even considered looking for foreign money IMO.
I dunno though. His base is so comfortable with cognitive dissonance they will probably think it is a great thing.
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Justice says it's their job if it's a crime. They have a lengthy explanation of their regs, but I only found the 2007 version. The pertinent parts may have changed since then.
It sets a really high bar for felony prosecution. If Trump did so much as have a boiler plate that says "Hey don't give me money if you're a foreign national" in the email, then he should be off the hook.
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When Donald Trump said last Thursday he was forgiving over $45 million in personal loans he made to his campaign, the announcement drew plenty of coverage. Many even reported Trump's statement as if the deal was done.
But it's not.
A week later, NBC News has learned the FEC has posted no record of Trump converting his loans to donations. The Trump Campaign has also declined requests to share the legal paperwork required to execute the transaction, though they suggest it has been submitted.
Last week, campaign spokesperson Hope Hicks said Trump was submitting formal paperwork forgiving the loan on Thursday, according to the Wall Street Journal.
Reached by NBC this week, she said the paperwork "will be filed with the next regularly scheduled FEC report," and declined to provide any documentation.
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Justice says it's their job if it's a crime. They have a lengthy explanation of their regs, but I only found the 2007 version. The pertinent parts may have changed since then.
It sets a really high bar for felony prosecution. If Trump did so much as have a boiler plate that says "Hey don't give me money if you're a foreign national" in the email, then he should be off the hook.
He. Didn't.
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When Donald Trump said last Thursday he was forgiving over $45 million in personal loans he made to his campaign, the announcement drew plenty of coverage. Many even reported Trump's statement as if the deal was done.
But it's not.
A week later, NBC News has learned the FEC has posted no record of Trump converting his loans to donations. The Trump Campaign has also declined requests to share the legal paperwork required to execute the transaction, though they suggest it has been submitted.
Last week, campaign spokesperson Hope Hicks said Trump was submitting formal paperwork forgiving the loan on Thursday, according to the Wall Street Journal.
Reached by NBC this week, she said the paperwork "will be filed with the next regularly scheduled FEC report," and declined to provide any documentation.
June FEC reporting closes today. June report comes out July 20th. RNC is July 18-21.
PPP did another one of its joke polls (like when it convinced a third of the population that Agrabah was a real place) and asked people whether they would prefer Clinton, Trump, or a giant meteor hitting the earth.
Giant meteor got like 15 percent!
That's practically enough to be included in the debates!
oh I thought that was referring to clinton's e-mails
At this point I think the Republicans have given up on using that as anything other than a lazy attack point, since there's no real evidence Hillary did anything illegal.
Soliciting members of the UK Parliament for campaign donations on the other hand...
also Gingrich and Christie are the top candidates for VP
I mean how much worse can you make your stupid campaign Trump. Seriously. No one likes either of them
I'm just kind of assuming anyone else who hears the faintest suggestion of running for VP is running out the door screaming TAKE CHRISTIE INSTEAD MY CAREER IS TOO YOUNG TO DIE
also Gingrich and Christie are the top candidates for VP
I mean how much worse can you make your stupid campaign Trump. Seriously. No one likes either of them
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Justice says it's their job if it's a crime. They have a lengthy explanation of their regs, but I only found the 2007 version. The pertinent parts may have changed since then.
It sets a really high bar for felony prosecution. If Trump did so much as have a boiler plate that says "Hey don't give me money if you're a foreign national" in the email, then he should be off the hook.
He. Didn't.
Munkus is right, I didn't say anything on this topic.
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it was more in response to the question of whether or not the FEC has any teeth
sorry if that made you mad munkus
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538's GE predictions open at 79% chance that Hillary Clinton wins.
Man, I want to be hopefull here.
But I'm still preparing myself for the darkest timeline.
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yeah i figured that's what it was. Sorry I've been more distant toward you lately. Hopefully next time I'll catch it more clearly.
e: distant in the sense of missing your posts somehow, not in some other contexts. I don't know I can't find the right word there.
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doesn't really seem like it.
The FEC can levy fines and file lawsuits, but that's about it, AFAIK.
It pokes some holes in his whole nationalistic xenophobic platform if he even considered looking for foreign money IMO.
I dunno though. His base is so comfortable with cognitive dissonance they will probably think it is a great thing.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/criminal/legacy/2013/09/30/electbook-0507.pdf
It sets a really high bar for felony prosecution. If Trump did so much as have a boiler plate that says "Hey don't give me money if you're a foreign national" in the email, then he should be off the hook.
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/after-saying-he-forgave-loans-campaign-trump-won-t-release-n601596
He. Didn't.
That's a real mean thing to say about Christie.
June FEC reporting closes today. June report comes out July 20th. RNC is July 18-21.
Meh, it's white foreign money for the most part. They don't mind that.
Eh, if he's asking for British money, it won't hurt him. They're the "right" kind of foreigners.
Well, about 50% of them are.
Actually I think he may have been confused when Trump happened to stand next to a full length mirror.
That's practically enough to be included in the debates!
of course not
As it turns out, it usually takes longer than a day for an investigation into illegal campaign donations to be completed.
and complaining about not doing well in the polls
it's all very humorous really
also Gingrich and Christie are the top candidates for VP
I mean how much worse can you make your stupid campaign Trump. Seriously. No one likes either of them
At this point I think the Republicans have given up on using that as anything other than a lazy attack point, since there's no real evidence Hillary did anything illegal.
Soliciting members of the UK Parliament for campaign donations on the other hand...
I'm just kind of assuming anyone else who hears the faintest suggestion of running for VP is running out the door screaming TAKE CHRISTIE INSTEAD MY CAREER IS TOO YOUNG TO DIE
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Munkus is right, I didn't say anything on this topic.
sorry if that made you mad munkus
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I was getting frustrated because I had, twice within a page, said what the ramifications for breaking the law were.
....huh
The guy sure doesn't give a crap about being seen as a big old racist, does he?
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e: distant in the sense of missing your posts somehow, not in some other contexts. I don't know I can't find the right word there.
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
Naw he puts a fairly high premium on it
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Because at this point I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he said that.
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