I remember seeing an old Jon Stewart bit back during the fight to get Obamacare and Beck was one of the more vocal opponents. Apparently, some time before that, Beck had to have some significant healthcare done and he made some video about how American healthcare sucks. So Jon cut back and forth between video of old Beck who hated Americian Healthcare, and "current" Beck who thought American healthcare was the best in the world. So as usual, I think a lot of these guys, including O'Reilly, and Megyn Kelly are just simply paid very well to say whatever their handlers want them to say, regardless of if they agree with it themselves.
Occasionally you'll see people break ranks when their self interest is on the line. Kelly's done this before over maternity leave, and sexism.
I can't find it anymore, but I saw this youtube video once that showed clips of Megyn before and after she got hired by Fox. Completely. Different. Person.
What was she like before Fox News? People do crazy things for money.
I don't remember specific issues, but she was...rational. I don't recall her being particularly liberal on anything. I think she was a former attorney and she was simply giving some legal analysis and it was very even-handed. It was comparing her younger self to her current, at the time, Fox persona, showing clips of her saying absurd shit.
I just hope he tones down it a little. I don't want 8* more years of Last weeks Trump with John Oliver.
Maybe a small Trump quip every couple of weeks? No main stories, please.
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So I'm a bit sad for John Oliver, since he seems for the most part stuck doing current events/Trump Administration stuff, rather than examining lesser known stories like he did in his first few seasons.
So I'm a bit sad for John Oliver, since he seems for the most part stuck doing current events/Trump Administration stuff, rather than examining lesser known stories like he did in his first few seasons.
Trump's literally taking over everything, even comedian's material.
So I'm a bit sad for John Oliver, since he seems for the most part stuck doing current events/Trump Administration stuff, rather than examining lesser known stories like he did in his first few seasons.
The flip side of this is that some people rely on the daily show as a primary news source (which goes a long way to describe how fucked Journalism is in the US) and by ignoring things like how yet another member of the administration is showing ties to russia people either don't realize whats going on or assume that it's ok.
Which is dumb as all hell but ultimately the nature of the US these days
A fairly valid point I saw was that LWT focusing on Trump is harmful to the show. LWT focussing on smaller issues that everyone can get behind put it in its own niche in the comedy political shows. With that episode focussed on Trump etc there's reason for people to dismiss it as a partisan news source like The Daily Show etc. And it is less unique because of the Trump focus, everyone and their dog talks about Trump. He's good tv. There isn't a derth of Trump coverage and LWT's coverage hasn't brought anything new to the table (aside from the embarrassing Drumpf fail).
It's silly to try to appeal to hyper partisan critics, if someone isn't going to listen to the show because its liberal then, whatever. They probably weren't going to listen in the first place. It's a nearly impossible goal.
But I really think that LWT had achieved it in the early episodes and that it has since lost that impartiality that made it so unique in the beginning. It focussed on things that everyone, left or right, agreed was bad.
So I'm a bit sad for John Oliver, since he seems for the most part stuck doing current events/Trump Administration stuff, rather than examining lesser known stories like he did in his first few seasons.
To be fair, he's trying to get away from covering Trump, as evidenced by his coverage of Tibet two weeks ago and the AHCA from this past week (which was more focused on the GOP in general than it was Trump himself). I guess what I'm saying is that "current events" isn't a topic that's foreign to LWT, as it's a thing that he's covered several times last year. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing more "lesser known stories" (as you put it) since there are plenty of other topics that are deserving of the air-time and could really use more attention brought to them.
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A fairly valid point I saw was that LWT focusing on Trump is harmful to the show. LWT focussing on smaller issues that everyone can get behind put it in its own niche in the comedy political shows. With that episode focussed on Trump etc there's reason for people to dismiss it as a partisan news source like The Daily Show etc. And it is less unique because of the Trump focus, everyone and their dog talks about Trump. He's good tv. There isn't a derth of Trump coverage and LWT's coverage hasn't brought anything new to the table (aside from the embarrassing Drumpf fail).
It's silly to try to appeal to hyper partisan critics, if someone isn't going to listen to the show because its liberal then, whatever. They probably weren't going to listen in the first place. It's a nearly impossible goal.
But I really think that LWT had achieved it in the early episodes and that it has since lost that impartiality that made it so unique in the beginning. It focussed on things that everyone, left or right, agreed was bad.
The people that would have an issue with Oliver going after Trump wouldn't like anything LWT brings up anyway.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
A fairly valid point I saw was that LWT focusing on Trump is harmful to the show. LWT focussing on smaller issues that everyone can get behind put it in its own niche in the comedy political shows. With that episode focussed on Trump etc there's reason for people to dismiss it as a partisan news source like The Daily Show etc. And it is less unique because of the Trump focus, everyone and their dog talks about Trump. He's good tv. There isn't a derth of Trump coverage and LWT's coverage hasn't brought anything new to the table (aside from the embarrassing Drumpf fail).
It's silly to try to appeal to hyper partisan critics, if someone isn't going to listen to the show because its liberal then, whatever. They probably weren't going to listen in the first place. It's a nearly impossible goal.
But I really think that LWT had achieved it in the early episodes and that it has since lost that impartiality that made it so unique in the beginning. It focussed on things that everyone, left or right, agreed was bad.
The people that would have an issue with Oliver going after Trump wouldn't like anything LWT brings up anyway.
Also the takeaway from oliver's early shows is the right sustaining the things "everyone" agreed was bad
Your description of Oliver's show reads like a case of both sides are bad itis
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I really want to watch Colbert but I don't care for the like 40 minutes of interviews. I usually skip the ones on the daily show and I'm just here for the correspondents and news. What do you search if you want those opening parts he does?
I really want to watch Colbert but I don't care for the like 40 minutes of interviews. I usually skip the ones on the daily show and I'm just here for the correspondents and news. What do you search if you want those opening parts he does?
I subscribed to the YouTube channel and it get's broken down into segments there, then I just click on the two or three that look interesting to me each day.
The one thing I've noticed, things are a lot less personal than they used to be. Back when John did the Daily Show and Colbert did The Colbert Show they'd have feuds and arguments with their rivals on FOX etc. Now a once-rival being fired is just another news item. Which I think is less on the new-Daily Show and LSwSC and more on the split of political shows in general. There used to be a lot more cross talk (even if that cross talk was stuff like the abysmal Crossfire). Now shows are more like separate worlds that rarely interact with each other.
Recently we had Trevor and Tomi, but that just wasn't the same. There wasn't the same long running rivalry and petty sniping that John and Bill used to have.
Yeah, that has been present (and appeared to be more noticeable as the years passed) for ages.
Checked Wikipedia and Google, a bunch of random people suggesting theories (the usual suspects), but I'm not seeing anywhere that he himself has stated what the cause is.
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I like to think that it's the beginning of his final ascension to a full-fledged rage demon. One of these days, his skin will burst like an overripe melon and out will spill Lewis Black's final form (which will basically be Lewis Black, but red and glowing and taller), which will proceed to take sardonic bellowing vengeance upon all that has offended it.
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Haven't been able to find the Megyn Kelly video pre/post Fox for years though. Must have gotten taken down.
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I don't remember specific issues, but she was...rational. I don't recall her being particularly liberal on anything. I think she was a former attorney and she was simply giving some legal analysis and it was very even-handed. It was comparing her younger self to her current, at the time, Fox persona, showing clips of her saying absurd shit.
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Just don't forget to fact check him. I mean, it wasn't his political preference that made him a kook.
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Reality is depressing enough.
Let's be honest here, what else could he have talked about, without bringing it back to the man-sized cheeto in the room?
Yeah he basically said as much before going into the deep dive on "reality". He had to (re)establish a baseline for future pieces.
Hey Trevor's not that bad
Maybe a small Trump quip every couple of weeks? No main stories, please.
*4 for optimists.
Edit: fair warning, there is a vague but unmistakable drawing of genitals at one point in this clip.
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Edit: I wonder how long the ads will air.. and if they'll actually air the last one they showed.. which I don't want to spoil.
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Trump's literally taking over everything, even comedian's material.
The flip side of this is that some people rely on the daily show as a primary news source (which goes a long way to describe how fucked Journalism is in the US) and by ignoring things like how yet another member of the administration is showing ties to russia people either don't realize whats going on or assume that it's ok.
Which is dumb as all hell but ultimately the nature of the US these days
It's silly to try to appeal to hyper partisan critics, if someone isn't going to listen to the show because its liberal then, whatever. They probably weren't going to listen in the first place. It's a nearly impossible goal.
But I really think that LWT had achieved it in the early episodes and that it has since lost that impartiality that made it so unique in the beginning. It focussed on things that everyone, left or right, agreed was bad.
To be fair, he's trying to get away from covering Trump, as evidenced by his coverage of Tibet two weeks ago and the AHCA from this past week (which was more focused on the GOP in general than it was Trump himself). I guess what I'm saying is that "current events" isn't a topic that's foreign to LWT, as it's a thing that he's covered several times last year. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing more "lesser known stories" (as you put it) since there are plenty of other topics that are deserving of the air-time and could really use more attention brought to them.
The people that would have an issue with Oliver going after Trump wouldn't like anything LWT brings up anyway.
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Also the takeaway from oliver's early shows is the right sustaining the things "everyone" agreed was bad
Your description of Oliver's show reads like a case of both sides are bad itis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nIlIPjUsuA&list=-
Sam's (still) on break, but TDS had their shot last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nIlIPjUsuA
Presumably Colbert shot his hits in too but they're not up on YT yet.
It is now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbYpi_WbfkI
( Because his is the only one that doesn't call me a dirty foreigner and actually plays)
I subscribed to the YouTube channel and it get's broken down into segments there, then I just click on the two or three that look interesting to me each day.
Wow. That segment on the restaurant is some vintage "black people are sub-human" racism.
Breathtaking.
Recently we had Trevor and Tomi, but that just wasn't the same. There wasn't the same long running rivalry and petty sniping that John and Bill used to have.
That was like a decade ago too, if I recall. Still got to keep his show.
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I feel bad saying it, but what's going on with Lewis Black? The shaking there was concerning.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Checked Wikipedia and Google, a bunch of random people suggesting theories (the usual suspects), but I'm not seeing anywhere that he himself has stated what the cause is.
Starbucks should watch the fuck out on that day.
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Though I guess his conduct is fairly becoming to Fox News these days.