Come on, we already pawned Nigel Farage off on them, and now they have their own problems to deal with. Gotta share the burden on this.
I have no hope for Farage fucking off on a permanent basis; Piers Moron managed to find his way back to these shores to gurn at people in the morning on ITV.
Farage was, according to his teachers at private school, essentially a bullying little Nazi. He thinks he's someone touched by destiny. And around four million voters love him like the dictator they never had.
Farage reminds me of Lord Rust from the Discworld books; he just can't get past the idea that the world is other than how he thinks it should be. His mind actually erases facts that don't jive with his worldview.
Why the fuck shouldn't Farage feel like the fucking dog's bollocks right about now? I mean, it's not like he gets called out on his dog whistling in any reasonable way by anyone of authority. UKIP and Farage don't need a press team, not with The Sun, Mail and Express falling over themselves to sing his praises. The Conservatives have bent over backwards to try and appease him and his followers. Rather than refute his criticisms of the EU and immigration they've apparently begun championing them. He was the main figurehead for the Leave campaign which won the referendum and he followed up that success by going all in on Trump; something he looks like being rewarded for. If all that isn't vindication of the man's odious beliefs, I don't know what is.
It's at times like this when I really wonder what is the fucking point of trying to be reasonable and rational with political discourse in our democracy? It clearly means fuck-all to the media and populace at large. What has to happen for the penny to drop for people to realise this has gone way too far? For MPs to be murdered in broad daylight? Clearly not... Sadly it appears Jo Cox is quickly becoming the inconvenient footnote to this 'wondrous' year the people supposedly took back control. Absolutely shameful.
I think the poor Americans have been punished enough.
Besides, if we inflicted Hopkins on them so soon after Farage, they'd nuke us. And rightfully so.
In two months it's President Trump at the button. You might get nuked because York is clearly a knock off of New York, where some of the most fabulous properties in the world are owned by President Trump, and he must protect the brand.
I think the poor Americans have been punished enough.
Besides, if we inflicted Hopkins on them so soon after Farage, they'd nuke us. And rightfully so.
No, you're sending her to us instead. She's appearing on an Irish chat show as a guest tomorrow and fuck knows why. I'm honestly tempted to go down to RTE studios with a protest sign. I doubt I'd be alone.
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Hopkins is a troll, I wouldn't give her the satisfaction.
Normally I wouldn't either, but she has the satisfaction of being taken seriously by my state broadcaster and I absolutely want to let them know that I am spectacularly not okay with that.
Normally I wouldn't either, but she has the satisfaction of being taken seriously by my state broadcaster and I absolutely want to let them know that I am spectacularly not okay with that.
The best thing you can do is ignore her. Like everyone seemed to do when she got her own TV show.
She's there to provoke a reaction more than anything else, but if people just rolled their eyes at any and all comments she made and then got on with their days, then she'd eventually just go away.
She is a complete and utter nothing.
It's like (to a much lesser extent) Robbie Savage on any football show; they get him to come along and say something daft to provoke a reaction.
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Don't think she'll get much sympathy from the Late Late show audience, anyway.
I think the poor Americans have been punished enough.
Besides, if we inflicted Hopkins on them so soon after Farage, they'd nuke us. And rightfully so.
No, you're sending her to us instead. She's appearing on an Irish chat show as a guest tomorrow and fuck knows why. I'm honestly tempted to go down to RTE studios with a protest sign. I doubt I'd be alone.
Well it looks like you should have sorted yourselves some nukes, doesn't it?
Bill Clinton was right in his assessment of Corbyn; the maddest person in the room. (meaning angry not crazy).
Labour members flocked to the MP who most rebelled against the Blairite era without ever realising that's only where Corbyn could ever thrive, as a critical backbench objector. The transition from backbench to leader just hasn't worked and will not work. Unfortunately that won't hit home with his supporters until Labour get crushed in the next GE and by that point, it'll be far too late.
At the same time I think there's also an element of dangerous ground, not only might* the labour leader need to work with President Trump at some point in the future, but he's also just been voted in by pretty much the same demographics as Brexit - who make up far too much of the Labour electorate to criticise too much publicly. Even if it wasn't Corbyn I think Labour would be stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment because they can't really oppose the Government without losing a huge portion of their voters to UKIP (and the Tories to some extent) whilst they also can't push too hard for Brexit without losing the other half to the Lib Dems, SNP or Greens.
That said, his statement isn't far off the one from Bernie Sanders that seems to be being held up as a something good in the version of the internet that I've ended up seeing. Seems decent enough to me, and on second reading I think "we send our solidarity to a nation of migrants, innovators and democrats" is probably amongst the most "Fuck you, Trump" of the various diplomatic speak acknowledgements of the election results I've seen.
*hahahahahahaah, I mean theoretically though as someone in the position as leader of a major party
I think the poor Americans have been punished enough.
Besides, if we inflicted Hopkins on them so soon after Farage, they'd nuke us. And rightfully so.
No, you're sending her to us instead. She's appearing on an Irish chat show as a guest tomorrow and fuck knows why. I'm honestly tempted to go down to RTE studios with a protest sign. I doubt I'd be alone.
Well it looks like you should have sorted yourselves some nukes, doesn't it?
Man Charlie Booker must be going through hell right now trying to write his end of year Screenwipe. How can a satirist to reality this year.
Also do we know if he has a cursed typewriter or Something? I remember reading about a typewriter where what was written on it came true. This year has been his rejected scripts.
If the typewriter is true can we get it off him and into I dont know.. Warehouse 13 or something?
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I feel like Jeremy corbyn doesn't really "get" twitter
I feel like Jeremy Corbyn is a fucking moron.
Yeah Jeremy, the next US president will be an openly racist sexual predator who ran a campaign of hate against everyone but this is totally a rejection of the political establishment and the problem here is his answers and not everything else about the man or how he came to power.
I was more commenting on using twitter to post a wall of text
It is literally the kind of tweet that is produced by people that had to have twitter explained to them
No, it's literally the kind of tweet produced by everyone communicating about politics and all sorts of other things over twitter now.
Like, straight up, the standard use of twitter for most politicians or the media these days is to use the 140 characters as a headline and then send a much much longer message in the tweet via either a video, a link or extremely commonly as an embedded photo or a long piece of text.
Yes, it's exactly as stupid as it seems, but it's super common and it's entirely because twitter as a medium is really fucking stupid.
Charlie Brooker is the host of HIGNFY this week. That'll be an interesting episode!
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I prefer that to seeing (1/34) at the end of a tweet. Gawd. If you can't condense the message into 240 characters or whatever, maybe Twitter ain't the venue for your screed!
I prefer that to seeing (1/34) at the end of a tweet. Gawd. If you can't condense the message into 240 characters or whatever, maybe Twitter ain't the venue for your screed!
Yeah, that shit is even stupider in some ways, but actually easier to read alot of the time.
Twitter is not the venue for basically any form of actual communication but it's the one everyone apparently wants to use (including the next POTUS) so here we are.
I feel like Jeremy corbyn doesn't really "get" twitter
I feel like Jeremy Corbyn is a fucking moron.
Yeah Jeremy, the next US president will be an openly racist sexual predator who ran a campaign of hate against everyone but this is totally a rejection of the political establishment and the problem here is his answers and not everything else about the man or how he came to power.
He's completely right, the problem with Donald Trump is that he ran hard on being the anti-establishment candidate and used sexism and racism to fuel those flames (the rhetoric that Corbyn says is a problem) - but more importantly that the way he thinks he can fix these problems are horrendous and doomed to failure.
Trump and Brexit are completely massive rejections of the political establishment. Reasons for those rejections are often confused, and the solutions are delusional - but there is a reason, it's not just idiots voting randomly or people being vastly more racist than everyone expected (people are vastly more OK with racists than everyone expected though). It's people making stupid choices for very valid reasons that have no obvious or easy fix.
I feel like Jeremy corbyn doesn't really "get" twitter
I feel like Jeremy Corbyn is a fucking moron.
Yeah Jeremy, the next US president will be an openly racist sexual predator who ran a campaign of hate against everyone but this is totally a rejection of the political establishment and the problem here is his answers and not everything else about the man or how he came to power.
He's completely right, the problem with Donald Trump is that he ran hard on being the anti-establishment candidate and used sexism and racism to fuel those flames (the rhetoric that Corbyn says is a problem) - but more importantly that the way he thinks he can fix these problems are horrendous and doomed to failure.
Trump and Brexit are completely massive rejections of the political establishment. Reasons for those rejections are often confused, and the solutions are delusional - but there is a reason, it's not just idiots voting randomly or people being vastly more racist than everyone expected (people are vastly more OK with racists than everyone expected though). It's people making stupid choices for very valid reasons that have no obvious or easy fix.
Nah, they are about as racist as people have been saying for a long time now.
And alot of it is a rejection of the current social order but the connection of that to the political establishment in the way Corbyn is talking about is fairly suspect.
Like, there's a reason both Brexit and Trump are wrapped up firmly in horrible social politics and it's not coincidence.
I feel like Jeremy corbyn doesn't really "get" twitter
I feel like Jeremy Corbyn is a fucking moron.
Yeah Jeremy, the next US president will be an openly racist sexual predator who ran a campaign of hate against everyone but this is totally a rejection of the political establishment and the problem here is his answers and not everything else about the man or how he came to power.
He's completely right, the problem with Donald Trump is that he ran hard on being the anti-establishment candidate and used sexism and racism to fuel those flames (the rhetoric that Corbyn says is a problem) - but more importantly that the way he thinks he can fix these problems are horrendous and doomed to failure.
Trump and Brexit are completely massive rejections of the political establishment. Reasons for those rejections are often confused, and the solutions are delusional - but there is a reason, it's not just idiots voting randomly or people being vastly more racist than everyone expected (people are vastly more OK with racists than everyone expected though). It's people making stupid choices for very valid reasons that have no obvious or easy fix.
Nah, they are about as racist as people have been saying for a long time now.
And alot of it is a rejection of the current social order but the connection of that to the political establishment in the way Corbyn is talking about is fairly suspect.
Like, there's a reason both Brexit and Trump are wrapped up firmly in horrible social politics and it's not coincidence.
The racism and rejection of the political establishment definitely go hand in hand.
The current establishment is run by/for "insert boogeyman here" kick them out.
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I feel like Jeremy corbyn doesn't really "get" twitter
I feel like Jeremy Corbyn is a fucking moron.
Yeah Jeremy, the next US president will be an openly racist sexual predator who ran a campaign of hate against everyone but this is totally a rejection of the political establishment and the problem here is his answers and not everything else about the man or how he came to power.
He's completely right, the problem with Donald Trump is that he ran hard on being the anti-establishment candidate and used sexism and racism to fuel those flames (the rhetoric that Corbyn says is a problem) - but more importantly that the way he thinks he can fix these problems are horrendous and doomed to failure.
Trump and Brexit are completely massive rejections of the political establishment. Reasons for those rejections are often confused, and the solutions are delusional - but there is a reason, it's not just idiots voting randomly or people being vastly more racist than everyone expected (people are vastly more OK with racists than everyone expected though). It's people making stupid choices for very valid reasons that have no obvious or easy fix.
Nah, they are about as racist as people have been saying for a long time now.
And alot of it is a rejection of the current social order but the connection of that to the political establishment in the way Corbyn is talking about is fairly suspect.
Like, there's a reason both Brexit and Trump are wrapped up firmly in horrible social politics and it's not coincidence.
The racism and rejection of the political establishment definitely go hand in hand.
The current establishment is run by/for "insert boogeyman here" kick them out.
It's like, is it really about escalating inequality and falling living standards as Corbyn says? Or is it about immigrants and political correctness and all that other stuff?
All the other stuff that always comes hand in hand with the "rejection of the political establishment" shows you how it's about alot more then what Corbyn (and to be fair others) is claiming it's about.
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I have no hope for Farage fucking off on a permanent basis; Piers Moron managed to find his way back to these shores to gurn at people in the morning on ITV.
it's tough to be worse than Piers Morgan but Nigel digs deep and really works for it
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It's at times like this when I really wonder what is the fucking point of trying to be reasonable and rational with political discourse in our democracy? It clearly means fuck-all to the media and populace at large. What has to happen for the penny to drop for people to realise this has gone way too far? For MPs to be murdered in broad daylight? Clearly not... Sadly it appears Jo Cox is quickly becoming the inconvenient footnote to this 'wondrous' year the people supposedly took back control. Absolutely shameful.
This is your friendly reminder that such a deal will be negotiated by Newt Gingrich and Boris Johnson.
*edit* Wait, actually it'll probably be Newt Gingrich and Liam Fox. Even better!
I think the poor Americans have been punished enough.
Besides, if we inflicted Hopkins on them so soon after Farage, they'd nuke us. And rightfully so.
In two months it's President Trump at the button. You might get nuked because York is clearly a knock off of New York, where some of the most fabulous properties in the world are owned by President Trump, and he must protect the brand.
No, you're sending her to us instead. She's appearing on an Irish chat show as a guest tomorrow and fuck knows why. I'm honestly tempted to go down to RTE studios with a protest sign. I doubt I'd be alone.
The best thing you can do is ignore her. Like everyone seemed to do when she got her own TV show.
She's there to provoke a reaction more than anything else, but if people just rolled their eyes at any and all comments she made and then got on with their days, then she'd eventually just go away.
She is a complete and utter nothing.
It's like (to a much lesser extent) Robbie Savage on any football show; they get him to come along and say something daft to provoke a reaction.
I hope.
Fine, we'll split the difference
She can relocate halfway between us
Well it looks like you should have sorted yourselves some nukes, doesn't it?
At the same time I think there's also an element of dangerous ground, not only might* the labour leader need to work with President Trump at some point in the future, but he's also just been voted in by pretty much the same demographics as Brexit - who make up far too much of the Labour electorate to criticise too much publicly. Even if it wasn't Corbyn I think Labour would be stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment because they can't really oppose the Government without losing a huge portion of their voters to UKIP (and the Tories to some extent) whilst they also can't push too hard for Brexit without losing the other half to the Lib Dems, SNP or Greens.
That said, his statement isn't far off the one from Bernie Sanders that seems to be being held up as a something good in the version of the internet that I've ended up seeing. Seems decent enough to me, and on second reading I think "we send our solidarity to a nation of migrants, innovators and democrats" is probably amongst the most "Fuck you, Trump" of the various diplomatic speak acknowledgements of the election results I've seen.
*hahahahahahaah, I mean theoretically though as someone in the position as leader of a major party
How do you know we didn't? 8-)
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Also do we know if he has a cursed typewriter or Something? I remember reading about a typewriter where what was written on it came true. This year has been his rejected scripts.
If the typewriter is true can we get it off him and into I dont know.. Warehouse 13 or something?
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I feel like Jeremy Corbyn is a fucking moron.
Yeah Jeremy, the next US president will be an openly racist sexual predator who ran a campaign of hate against everyone but this is totally a rejection of the political establishment and the problem here is his answers and not everything else about the man or how he came to power.
No, it's literally the kind of tweet produced by everyone communicating about politics and all sorts of other things over twitter now.
Like, straight up, the standard use of twitter for most politicians or the media these days is to use the 140 characters as a headline and then send a much much longer message in the tweet via either a video, a link or extremely commonly as an embedded photo or a long piece of text.
Yes, it's exactly as stupid as it seems, but it's super common and it's entirely because twitter as a medium is really fucking stupid.
Yeah, that shit is even stupider in some ways, but actually easier to read alot of the time.
Twitter is not the venue for basically any form of actual communication but it's the one everyone apparently wants to use (including the next POTUS) so here we are.
He's completely right, the problem with Donald Trump is that he ran hard on being the anti-establishment candidate and used sexism and racism to fuel those flames (the rhetoric that Corbyn says is a problem) - but more importantly that the way he thinks he can fix these problems are horrendous and doomed to failure.
Trump and Brexit are completely massive rejections of the political establishment. Reasons for those rejections are often confused, and the solutions are delusional - but there is a reason, it's not just idiots voting randomly or people being vastly more racist than everyone expected (people are vastly more OK with racists than everyone expected though). It's people making stupid choices for very valid reasons that have no obvious or easy fix.
Nah, they are about as racist as people have been saying for a long time now.
And alot of it is a rejection of the current social order but the connection of that to the political establishment in the way Corbyn is talking about is fairly suspect.
Like, there's a reason both Brexit and Trump are wrapped up firmly in horrible social politics and it's not coincidence.
The racism and rejection of the political establishment definitely go hand in hand.
The current establishment is run by/for "insert boogeyman here" kick them out.
"Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!".
It's like, is it really about escalating inequality and falling living standards as Corbyn says? Or is it about immigrants and political correctness and all that other stuff?
All the other stuff that always comes hand in hand with the "rejection of the political establishment" shows you how it's about alot more then what Corbyn (and to be fair others) is claiming it's about.