Every TV show is a spinoff from Happy Days, by some degree of separation.
No its St Elsewhere.
Obviously!
The sky was full of stars, every star an exploding ship. One of ours.
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I'm waiting for John Munch to finally cross-over into Star Trek. Maybe they could thaw him out from cryosleep or something. I don't consider the BSG thing to be a valid connection.
Edit: Discovery needs to go back in time and team up with Much to solve a murder.
I'm waiting for John Munch to finally cross-over into Star Trek. Maybe they could thaw him out from cryosleep or something. I don't consider the BSG thing to be a valid connection.
Edit: Discovery needs to go back in time and team up with Much to solve a murder.
Where Jessica Fletcher finally answers for her crimes.
“Bringing ‘Star Trek’ back to television carries a responsibility and mission: to connect fans and newcomers alike to the series that has fed our imaginations since childhood,” executive producers Alex Kurtzman and Bryan Fuller said.
“We aim to dream big and deliver, and that means making sure the demands of physical and post-production for a show that takes place entirely in space, and the need to meet an air date, don’t result in compromised quality,” they continued. “Before heading into production, we evaluated these realities with our partners at CBS and they agreed: ‘Star Trek’ deserves the very best, and these extra few months will help us achieve a vision we can all be proud of.”
Not really surprising, considering they haven't even announced casting yet.
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That_GuyI don't wanna be that guyRegistered Userregular
I really REALLY hope they can find shakespearean trained actors. Star Trek need this to be whole again.
Netflix Japan added all the Star Trek movies, except for Undiscovered Country, oddly enough.
The Praxis -> Chernobyl allegory, maybe?
Chernobyl was russia. You're maybe thinking Fukishima.
Could also just be an error, or cacheing.
Depends on whose point of view, the Japanese viewer might be thinking Fukishima but the writers would have been thinking Chernobyl (assuming the moon blowing up was meant to invoke that).
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
Netflix Japan added all the Star Trek movies, except for Undiscovered Country, oddly enough.
The Praxis -> Chernobyl allegory, maybe?
Chernobyl was russia. You're maybe thinking Fukishima.
Could also just be an error, or cacheing.
Depends on whose point of view, the Japanese viewer might be thinking Fukishima but the writers would have been thinking Chernobyl (assuming the moon blowing up was meant to invoke that).
It definitely was. Undiscovered Country was an end-of-the-Cold-War allegory, and Praxis exploding was a direct reference to Chernobyl. That disaster was just five years old, so it was very fresh in everyone's minds, and the direct political and social consequences were still unfolding and being dealt with at that time.
(and BTW Chernobyl is in Ukraine, not Russia)
Also the movie is from 1991, so how the Japanese might mistake anything in it for a reference to something that happened in 2011 is beyond me.
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daveNYCWhy universe hate Waspinator?Registered Userregular
Netflix Japan added all the Star Trek movies, except for Undiscovered Country, oddly enough.
The Praxis -> Chernobyl allegory, maybe?
Chernobyl was russia. You're maybe thinking Fukishima.
Could also just be an error, or cacheing.
Depends on whose point of view, the Japanese viewer might be thinking Fukishima but the writers would have been thinking Chernobyl (assuming the moon blowing up was meant to invoke that).
It definitely was. Undiscovered Country was an end-of-the-Cold-War allegory, and Praxis exploding was a direct reference to Chernobyl. That disaster was just five years old, so it was very fresh in everyone's minds, and the direct political and social consequences were still unfolding and being dealt with at that time.
(and BTW Chernobyl is in Ukraine, not Russia)
Also the movie is from 1991, so how the Japanese might mistake anything in it for a reference to something that happened in 2011 is beyond me.
The Japanese might have a slightly different response to an energy source exploding, killing people and rendering a planet uninhabitable, than someone who is from a country that didn't have a major nuclear disaster five years ago. You hit the right emotional buttons and people aren't going to consider the date the movie was made.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
Netflix Japan added all the Star Trek movies, except for Undiscovered Country, oddly enough.
The Praxis -> Chernobyl allegory, maybe?
Chernobyl was russia. You're maybe thinking Fukishima.
Could also just be an error, or cacheing.
Depends on whose point of view, the Japanese viewer might be thinking Fukishima but the writers would have been thinking Chernobyl (assuming the moon blowing up was meant to invoke that).
It definitely was. Undiscovered Country was an end-of-the-Cold-War allegory, and Praxis exploding was a direct reference to Chernobyl. That disaster was just five years old, so it was very fresh in everyone's minds, and the direct political and social consequences were still unfolding and being dealt with at that time.
(and BTW Chernobyl is in Ukraine, not Russia)
Also the movie is from 1991, so how the Japanese might mistake anything in it for a reference to something that happened in 2011 is beyond me.
I was more talking about as to why undiscovered country wasn't available on Netflix Japan today. I know that the undiscovered country was a direct cold war movie, and I know that praxis was supposed to be Chernobyl, I just don't see how that would be relevant at all to the fact that Undiscovered Country was the only movie not released on Netflix Japan.
Netflix Japan added all the Star Trek movies, except for Undiscovered Country, oddly enough.
The Praxis -> Chernobyl allegory, maybe?
Chernobyl was russia. You're maybe thinking Fukishima.
Could also just be an error, or cacheing.
Depends on whose point of view, the Japanese viewer might be thinking Fukishima but the writers would have been thinking Chernobyl (assuming the moon blowing up was meant to invoke that).
It definitely was. Undiscovered Country was an end-of-the-Cold-War allegory, and Praxis exploding was a direct reference to Chernobyl. That disaster was just five years old, so it was very fresh in everyone's minds, and the direct political and social consequences were still unfolding and being dealt with at that time.
(and BTW Chernobyl is in Ukraine, not Russia)
Also the movie is from 1991, so how the Japanese might mistake anything in it for a reference to something that happened in 2011 is beyond me.
Ukraine was a part of Russia at the time of the disaster and separated from the union only a few months before The Undiscovered Country came out.
I have about six episodes of DS9 left, never thought TNG would be replaced as my favorite series!
Also, about Beyond, I feel like I need to rewatch it. All of my friends said it was the best thing since sliced bread but I came out disappointed. It was definitely better than Into Darkness, but I feel like everything about it was pretty bland. Especially Idris Elba! They completely wasted him on such a generic villain.
I think it gets the benefit from very, very low expectations. Like, "wow, this... this doesn't suck, and actually feels like Trek!"
I disagree. At least in as much as that my positive feelings towards Beyond have absolutely nothing to do with low expectations whatsoever. I expected good things based on comments from Simon Pegg throughout production, and it matched my expectations. I never expected it to amaze me, and it did not, but it was a solid 3 star Trek film and that was what I wanted from it. My wife and I are both lifelong Trek fans, since before TNG even existed, and it was enjoyable and satisfying for both of us. Heck, she saw it twice in the first 3 days in theaters.
That said, neither of us hated ST '09 or Into Darkness. My wife hated the destruction of Vulcan, and we both had issues with some of the callbacks from Into Darkness, but not to an extent that prevented us from enjoying either.
Beyond was easily the best Star Trek movie since First Contact.
That's not exactly a high bar.
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Good to hear. Rental it is, though I doubt I'll buy it. I haven't liked any of the reboots, and I've re-watched them a couple times to see if they'd grow on me, and they did, but like a particularly painful rash.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
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I think beyond is great and I'm extremely excited to add it to my blu ray collection.
Good to hear. Rental it is, though I doubt I'll buy it. I haven't liked any of the reboots, and I've re-watched them a couple times to see if they'd grow on me, and they did, but like a particularly painful rash.
I think I said this in the last thread but when I re-watched ST09 and STID before Beyond came out, I had very mixed feelings. I remembered ST09 being way better than STID, but after re-watching, if you took out the last 20 minutes of STID I think I'd like it better than ST09. Those last 20 minutes really ruin it though.
I'll be interested to see how much I still like beyond on the 2nd and 3rd viewing.
I've liked the new ones when they've actually embraced the changes they've made in the timeline.
Like Spock being part of an endangered species. Or the fact that this Kirk joined Starfleet on a dare, rather than any deeply-held belief in their mission.
When they decide to just take something from the originals and do it again with more explosions and a bigger FX budget (KHAAAAAAN), it falls flat.
Like, I've read that in some tie-in comics:
They're introducing the Borg.
To the Kirk-era new timeline.
The one positive to that is it I doubt it'll be any kind of canon, as if they do decide to add them to the movies, I doubt they'll want their first appearance to have been in a comic, so they'll ignore that.
Good to hear. Rental it is, though I doubt I'll buy it. I haven't liked any of the reboots, and I've re-watched them a couple times to see if they'd grow on me, and they did, but like a particularly painful rash.
I think I said this in the last thread but when I re-watched ST09 and STID before Beyond came out, I had very mixed feelings. I remembered ST09 being way better than STID, but after re-watching, if you took out the last 20 minutes of STID I think I'd like it better than ST09. Those last 20 minutes really ruin it though.
I'll be interested to see how much I still like beyond on the 2nd and 3rd viewing.
ID hurt the second time through because the fridge logic punches you in the face right off the bat. ST09 was better off since it was more constrained by its origin story elements (all the character introductions and whatnots).
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
yea the nice thing about the reboot movies is that they are a "sideshow" to the prime universe.
I wouldn't say that, the movie right now are the Trek "prime time" while the Prime universe is reduced to the tv status, and EU. Abrams Trek is new the face for Trek.
That_GuyI don't wanna be that guyRegistered Userregular
So, that Axanar lawsuit isn't over. In fact it seems to be heating up. It turns out CBS doesn't give 2 shit about what a couple of their directors said to a bunch of reporters and are going forward this the whole thing. I can't say it surprises me, though. Based on what we are hearing from press releases, Axanar takes place at the same time as Discovery. It wouldn't surprise me in the least bit if there was a boardroom meeting that went something like this.
>Did you guys see that Axanar fan film? That's a really good idea for a show.
>We should take those ideas and make a new series out of it.
>What about the millions of dollars the Axanar people raised?
>You mean the millions of dollars we are going to sue them for?
I thought this and the Romulus stuff didn't make sense. I mean, The Romulans have an interstellar empire, and the Vulcans have been a spacefaring civilization for centuries and they are both almost completely annihilated from losing their home worlds? Granted, it would be a blow, but cutting them down to endangered... doesn't seem likely.
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No its St Elsewhere.
Obviously!
Edit: Discovery needs to go back in time and team up with Much to solve a murder.
Where Jessica Fletcher finally answers for her crimes.
I thought that wasn't the case in the US
True, it will be everywhere else.
The Praxis -> Chernobyl allegory, maybe?
Chernobyl was russia. You're maybe thinking Fukishima.
Could also just be an error, or cacheing.
Depends on whose point of view, the Japanese viewer might be thinking Fukishima but the writers would have been thinking Chernobyl (assuming the moon blowing up was meant to invoke that).
It definitely was. Undiscovered Country was an end-of-the-Cold-War allegory, and Praxis exploding was a direct reference to Chernobyl. That disaster was just five years old, so it was very fresh in everyone's minds, and the direct political and social consequences were still unfolding and being dealt with at that time.
(and BTW Chernobyl is in Ukraine, not Russia)
Also the movie is from 1991, so how the Japanese might mistake anything in it for a reference to something that happened in 2011 is beyond me.
The Japanese might have a slightly different response to an energy source exploding, killing people and rendering a planet uninhabitable, than someone who is from a country that didn't have a major nuclear disaster five years ago. You hit the right emotional buttons and people aren't going to consider the date the movie was made.
I was more talking about as to why undiscovered country wasn't available on Netflix Japan today. I know that the undiscovered country was a direct cold war movie, and I know that praxis was supposed to be Chernobyl, I just don't see how that would be relevant at all to the fact that Undiscovered Country was the only movie not released on Netflix Japan.
Looks like it was just a weird delay. They finally added it.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Also, about Beyond, I feel like I need to rewatch it. All of my friends said it was the best thing since sliced bread but I came out disappointed. It was definitely better than Into Darkness, but I feel like everything about it was pretty bland. Especially Idris Elba! They completely wasted him on such a generic villain.
Jaylah was the best though.
I disagree. At least in as much as that my positive feelings towards Beyond have absolutely nothing to do with low expectations whatsoever. I expected good things based on comments from Simon Pegg throughout production, and it matched my expectations. I never expected it to amaze me, and it did not, but it was a solid 3 star Trek film and that was what I wanted from it. My wife and I are both lifelong Trek fans, since before TNG even existed, and it was enjoyable and satisfying for both of us. Heck, she saw it twice in the first 3 days in theaters.
That said, neither of us hated ST '09 or Into Darkness. My wife hated the destruction of Vulcan, and we both had issues with some of the callbacks from Into Darkness, but not to an extent that prevented us from enjoying either.
Definitely.
That's not exactly a high bar.
so there!
I think I said this in the last thread but when I re-watched ST09 and STID before Beyond came out, I had very mixed feelings. I remembered ST09 being way better than STID, but after re-watching, if you took out the last 20 minutes of STID I think I'd like it better than ST09. Those last 20 minutes really ruin it though.
I'll be interested to see how much I still like beyond on the 2nd and 3rd viewing.
Like Spock being part of an endangered species. Or the fact that this Kirk joined Starfleet on a dare, rather than any deeply-held belief in their mission.
When they decide to just take something from the originals and do it again with more explosions and a bigger FX budget (KHAAAAAAN), it falls flat.
Like, I've read that in some tie-in comics:
To the Kirk-era new timeline.
The one positive to that is it I doubt it'll be any kind of canon, as if they do decide to add them to the movies, I doubt they'll want their first appearance to have been in a comic, so they'll ignore that.
ID hurt the second time through because the fridge logic punches you in the face right off the bat. ST09 was better off since it was more constrained by its origin story elements (all the character introductions and whatnots).
I wouldn't say that, the movie right now are the Trek "prime time" while the Prime universe is reduced to the tv status, and EU. Abrams Trek is new the face for Trek.
Turns out Picard does swear, but only in French.
>Did you guys see that Axanar fan film? That's a really good idea for a show.
>We should take those ideas and make a new series out of it.
>What about the millions of dollars the Axanar people raised?
>You mean the millions of dollars we are going to sue them for?
I thought this and the Romulus stuff didn't make sense. I mean, The Romulans have an interstellar empire, and the Vulcans have been a spacefaring civilization for centuries and they are both almost completely annihilated from losing their home worlds? Granted, it would be a blow, but cutting them down to endangered... doesn't seem likely.