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Civilization 6: The Thread

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    So the Aliens from War of the Worlds, basically.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    You can build APCs without the wheel.

    Somebody fucked up.

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    ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    You can get Scythian mounted archers right off the bat without ever touching archery. Civ games have never been terribly consistent.

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    DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    You can build APCs without the wheel.

    Somebody fucked up.

    Well all their practice with wheeless battering rams and siege towers gave them plenty of experience throughout history.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    gilgamesh gets War Carts (giant chariots) on Turn 1

    by the way

    Gilgamesh is a fucking rad leader in this game I think. Ziggurats are OP, tribal bonus from barb camps is off the scale nuts.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    pro tip

    if you're Arabia you have to unlock Theology in order to get the university, not education

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Damnit Pedro we've been over this! You always attack me when you've only got one city and are a whole era behind me, you don't stand a chance against my Legions!

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    The difference in how the game runs between the end of one game and the start of the next one is stark

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    bnet: TheStig#1787 Steam: TheStig
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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »

    and probably a dozen or so other civilizations from TNG

    when you can't afford to build sets, everyone gets to be space amish!

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Kongo beats my Settler to a spot right next to my border by one turn

    it's nowhere near his own land

    next turn he goes HEY QUIT SETTLING NEXT TO ME MAN

    Fuck you, buddy.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Pedro

    go away

    why are you in every single game I play

    no one likes you

    you're a dick

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Pedro

    go away

    why are you in every single game I play

    no one likes you

    you're a dick

    Playing islands and he dun settled on mine then started spreading his religion at me. It. Is. On.

    bnet: TheStig#1787 Steam: TheStig
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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    I've resorted to denouncing him every single chance I get because he gets so pissy about the fact that I have more great people than him.

    It is just hilarious

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    No Great NameNo Great Name FRAUD DETECTED Registered User regular
    In my current game I long since stopped caring about my religion, except using it as an impetus to wage holy wars across the globe. Thanks for converting my cities!

    Plus using all my faith to instead snatch every great person I've wanted has been nice too.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    yeah faith is way more reliable in GP recruitment and also just spending in bulk to raise an army faith prices for advanced units are completely reasonable

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Kongo beats my Settler to a spot right next to my border by one turn

    it's nowhere near his own land

    next turn he goes HEY QUIT SETTLING NEXT TO ME MAN

    Fuck you, buddy.

    the AI in these games is always basically an eight year old child in terms of their all-consuming solipsism

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    I'm gonna go pitch a tent just outside the White House then pick up a bullhorn and go "HEY, OBAMA

    QUIT TREADIN' ON ME

    UH TO BE CLEAR I DON'T ESPOUSE SYMPATHIES WITH THE CONFEDERATE MOVEMENT, I MEAN YOUR WHITE HOUSE IS WAY TOO CLOSE TO MY TENT, STOP IT"

    because that's basically what he did (I'm Roosevelt)

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Me: "Saladin, I see your settler, don't you dare create a city in between my two cities."
    Saladin: "Oh, sorry, didn't see your cities nearby!"

    Rumors has it that Saladin has expanded his territory with the founding of Damascus

    Saladin: "I see you have military near my borders, remove them unless you intend to start a war"

    Yeah, cause I'm the one who started it. The only one left on the continent after I wiped out Brazil is Gorgo and I'm pretty sure if I raze Saladin's entire nation off the map she'll ally with me instead of denouncing me.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    I noticed Egypt apostles surrounding one of my cities again, and was already to declare War on Cleopatra again to get 'em out, but then I noticed that they're apostles for... My religion. And the city they were surrounding already had it.

    That's an, uh... Interesting strategy, Cleo

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Listen

    my hand isn't touching your nose, I don't see why you're so upset

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    Me: "Saladin, I see your settler, don't you dare create a city in between my two cities."
    Saladin: "Oh, sorry, didn't see your cities nearby!"

    Rumors has it that Saladin has expanded his territory with the founding of Damascus

    Saladin: "I see you have military near my borders, remove them unless you intend to start a war"

    Yeah, cause I'm the one who started it. The only one left on the continent after I wiped out Brazil is Gorgo and I'm pretty sure if I raze Saladin's entire nation off the map she'll ally with me instead of denouncing me.

    I see Saladin subscribes to the Beijing method of dealing with problems ala south china sea.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Gandhi got mad at me because I was too warlike. Having declared on 2 other empires via Casus Belli. Whatever.

    So a few turns later he demands tribute and when I refuse. He declares war on me!


    All I could think was the achewood "oh my God that is the worst possible answer"

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    I had Russia request my assistance in a joint war. I was like, "Fuck it, why not." Russia then got mad at me for being a warmonger and declared war on me.

    Fuckin'... Be cool, Russia. Jesus.

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Gandhi got mad at me because I was too warlike. Having declared on 2 other empires via Casus Belli. Whatever.

    So a few turns later he demands tribute and when I refuse. He declares war on me!


    All I could think was the achewood "oh my God that is the worst possible answer"

    Casus Belli gives you a 50% penalty, so 2 of them = formal war declaration.

    However it is really hard to gain a standing relationship with a civ. I think switching governments is the way to go since government type isn't nearly as important as it was in V

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    I had Russia request my assistance in a joint war. I was like, "Fuck it, why not." Russia then got mad at me for being a warmonger and declared war on me.

    Fuckin'... Be cool, Russia. Jesus.

    I love Peter's response if you decline something

    "Stupid, Stupid..."

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Shortly after I wiped China from the globe

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    This is a screenshot I took last night, if you want to see some funny shit:
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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    thats pretty typical, unfortunately

    the AI is really playing to type right now and it actually is kinda bad

    like you expect montezuma to try and shit on people, but you don't expect him to literally not play the game except to keep pressing Jaguar until he has enough

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    If you declare war on the country that owns the missionaries, and start killing them all, it lowers the level of that religion's influence on cities in a 10-ish tile radius

    Which is interesting, and a solid mechanic, but also kinda horrifying when you start to think of the implications

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    I had Russia request my assistance in a joint war. I was like, "Fuck it, why not." Russia then got mad at me for being a warmonger and declared war on me.

    Fuckin'... Be cool, Russia. Jesus.

    Why should I listen to you? You're Hitler!

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Gandhi got mad at me because I was too warlike. Having declared on 2 other empires via Casus Belli. Whatever.

    So a few turns later he demands tribute and when I refuse. He declares war on me!


    All I could think was the achewood "oh my God that is the worst possible answer"

    Gandhi's AI personality seems to be "no one can monger war except Gandhi".

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    If you declare war on the country that owns the missionaries, and start killing them all, it lowers the level of that religion's influence on cities in a 10-ish tile radius

    Which is interesting, and a solid mechanic, but also kinda horrifying when you start to think of the implications

    Some of my Apostles got the ability that turns them into relics if they die in a faith fight.

    ...Oh good, you brought me his skull back...and covered it in gold....didn't waste any time on this did you?

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    This is a screenshot I took last night, if you want to see some funny shit:
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    And that's why you don't settle Utah.

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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    There have to be some shenanigans going on with AI and resource generation because that's well over 3000 faith worth of missionaries and apostles, at least, and I guarantee even if all those were wiped out they'd just have that same amount a couple turns later.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    Aistan wrote: »
    There have to be some shenanigans going on with AI and resource generation because that's well over 3000 faith worth of missionaries and apostles, at least, and I guarantee even if all those were wiped out they'd just have that same amount a couple turns later.

    I mean, if that game was being played on King or up, that's correct

    Above Prince, the game cheats in the AI's favor.

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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    I wish there was some way to implement difficulty in 4x games without simply blatantly giving the AI access to things a human can't possibly replicate.

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    Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    If you declare war on the country that owns the missionaries, and start killing them all, it lowers the level of that religion's influence on cities in a 10-ish tile radius

    Which is interesting, and a solid mechanic, but also kinda horrifying when you start to think of the implications

    Some of my Apostles got the ability that turns them into relics if they die in a faith fight.

    ...Oh good, you brought me his skull back...and covered it in gold....didn't waste any time on this did you?

    We need to get this in a museum quick, 50 Cent is outside and he has that gold skull look to him again

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Aistan wrote: »
    I wish there was some way to implement difficulty in 4x games without simply blatantly giving the AI access to things a human can't possibly replicate.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlBR1z-ue-I

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    SimBen wrote: »
    You can build APCs without the wheel.

    Somebody fucked up.

    nah if you lift up that armor it's just horses under there

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