The helmet is a bit of a marmite thing for sure, but the rest of the set is really nice. Even hunters don't come off that badly really provided the hood of that cloak comes down.
There were some unintended changes applied to Health Regen Perks due to a change to Hungering Blade. You can read the full Patch Notes here and the further Explanation of what happened here. In the last 3 days since the Hotfix we have been listening to the feedback from the community and been working on some corrections . Our current plan is to roll back most of the unintended changes like Ward of Dawn cast, and Embrace the void. You can read the full list of rollbacks below. The other affected Perks are getting different changes that the Sandbox design team believes will be more beneficial to the game rather than simply rolling back to the old settings. Here is Sandbox Designer Josh Hamrick with an explanation of the changes.
Josh Hamrick: When we talked about Regen earlier in the week I ambiguously talked about what and when we would be making changes because I wasn’t entirely sure. The majority of the change wasn’t intentional, but when I looked at the problem from afar, I could see how it may be beneficial in some ways after hearing feedback from the community following the Sandbox preview stream. For example, some of you had concerns that Hungering Blade was changing while other similar perks, such as Cauterize, were not. This unintended change was going to give us the ability to see what that would look like to make both of those changes. I wanted to make it clear that it was possible that we could find something that we wanted to keep. I didn’t want to say that we’d put it all back, when we might not.
Having an enemies ability or attack be able to completely erase any progress you've made and completely reset an encounter feels bad. Also, when 1 hit kill weapons are less dominant those abilities and attacks become more dominant, as they are much harder to stop. This change allows those abilities and attacks to still recover large portions of health and buy themselves more time without completely resetting the encounter and negating all cumulative damage that had come before.
We have watched and listened all week and this is the current plan moving forward. I’m going to give numbers so that you have all the info, but THESE NUMBERS MAY CHANGE:
For each of the elements below we are going to keep the change, but buff the amount of health you get back (+58%)
- Hungering Blade
- Red Death
- Lifesteal
- Transfusion (we are also removing the cooldown)
- Cauterize (we are also removing the cooldown)
For all the rest, we will be reverting the change entirely
- Suros Regime
- No Backup Plans
- Ward of Dawn cast
- Apotheosis Veil
- Embrace the Void
We do not have a date that these changes will take place but are currently working on them and conducting tests. It is early in the process, so all of this is subject to change. But as of now, this is the plan. We will give you more details about when you can expect to see these changes in the game as soon as we can.
Honestly very happy with those changes, before I was very worried about how they'd react but good on them
I'm pleasantly surprised by both how quickly they declared to the community that they're going to change it back, and that they're doing it in a more targeted manner. I think I'm okay with the way they're implementing those changes.
Anyways, I'm hopping online to play now, feel free to join me.
Isnt this still a nerf in the end to all those other things than Hungering Blade that wasnt even meant to be nerfed?
58% HP back =/= Full HP regen.
But it's instant and the cooldown is removed for Cauterize, Lifesteal, and Transfusion. I think it's a fair trade off. This game is all about time in PvP, who can kill the opponent faster? If you recover health instantly regardless of damage you can survive even under sustained fire when you proc healing perks, but it doesn't initiate regen so it doesn't reset the encounter. I think it's a great trade off.
Sirialisof the Halite Throne.Registered Userregular
edited February 2017
If the internal cooldown for Lifesteal is shorter than the time it takes tier 5 melee (most people will probably have a Voidwalker at 1-2 Melee?) to regen a charge, it wont matter though.
Granted, I'm not sure what the internal cooldown time is.
I read that as +58% of the current amount that you get back, not 58% of your total health. Am I crazy?
Guess I read it wrong, then it still sounds like a huge nerf compared to full regen, that would land it around a 10-20% hp back (assuming I'm right about the current being 5-10%), no cooldown doesnt seem to matter that much when you need a melee charge for it to work.
I sure as fuck dont see the gain here - Bungie fucked up and now they are cherrypicking what abilities gets to have the nerfs reverted... Nerfs they didnt even mean to do in the first place? Fuck that.
Yeah, no thanks. They should revert all the changes.
EDIT: I really with the live team wasn't so compelled to make tons of arbitrary little changes, and sweeping changes like with special ammo, so late in Destiny's life.
Cauterize's cooldown matters because there are situations where you can punch your way through herds of small mobs, instantly regaining your fisting power (and now, your HP). Which is great for me, I love punching people.
Yeah, no thanks. They should revert all the changes.
EDIT: I really with the live team wasn't so compelled to make tons of arbitrary little changes, and sweeping changes like with special ammo, so late in Destiny's life.
I'm okay with them using Destiny 1 as a test lab if the data makes launch Destiny 2 amazing.
Honestly very happy with those changes, before I was very worried about how they'd react but good on them
It shows that the Live team is trying. Crucible and Trials is a picky critter to balance. D2 is looming on us this year but they are still tweeking and fixing the meta of the 1st game. How many companies do that these days?
And well, I'm new to Destiny and just did my first Trials/Vault this weekend. And man, it was an experience. The game changes slowly, but it does change over time and I appreciate that.
Sirialisof the Halite Throne.Registered Userregular
edited February 2017
I dont really use Handcannons much but thought the combination of reduced ammo size and LitC was supposed to be good.
"No Land Beyond is a joke weapon", "Sidearms are useless"
Everything else gets nerfed and this happens, which anyone could have guessed to be honest.
I wonder how long it will be for them to get nerfed, not because they are too strong, but because everything else is weak and these guns will be gaining a lot more popularity soon.
EDIT: Sidearm usage up by 50%+, shotguns down by 45%+ for a paltry 3%+ shotgun usage, hahaha, they have no idea what they are doing.
Oof, only ~10% of people going flawless is rough as hell. Not to mention a lot of those were likely carries so two guys who've been flawless already got paid to bring one guy along, and thus denying more than a handful of actual 3 man teams a Lighthouse vacay
+1
Sirialisof the Halite Throne.Registered Userregular
Fuck carries, both the people who do it and the people who pay for them.
Figures now is when I get the full auto/rifled barrel/rangefinder Matador. Still keeping it though.
This chaperone quest is exactly as much nonsense as everyone said. I'm going to try to cheese it with mayhem clash, play defensively and try to go on sprees, but geez.
Tried just playing with the last word last night and it's weird. Oldest news to you OG guys but figuring out how to accurately hip fire and where the effective range on this thing stops is very strange.
Figures now is when I get the full auto/rifled barrel/rangefinder Matador. Still keeping it though.
This chaperone quest is exactly as much nonsense as everyone said. I'm going to try to cheese it with mayhem clash, play defensively and try to go on sprees, but geez.
Tried just playing with the last word last night and it's weird. Oldest news to you OG guys but figuring out how to accurately hip fire and where the effective range on this thing stops is very strange.
Full Auto increases your pellet spread, reducing your OHK distance
Fuck carries, both the people who do it and the people who pay for them.
I didn't want to add this to my monster post but would you feel this way if two or three times as many people total were in trials? Is it along because those people don't deserve lighthouse trips or is it because it's making it too hard for the normal people? I honestly don't have an opinion so no judgment here either way.
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Sirialisof the Halite Throne.Registered Userregular
edited February 2017
I have a problem with it mostly because there is money involved.
But the people paying for carries also missed the point of the Lighthouse completely.
There's a really shady looking site called "The Wolves of Destiny" or something that offers paid services for everything. I stumbled upon it as a paid ad on my phone when I searched something Destiny related the other day.
When I say everything I mean everything. You can pay for them to join you in Patrol or complete story missions and raids. Or you know, the standard Lighthouse trip.
Sirialisof the Halite Throne.Registered Userregular
edited February 2017
I recall Booker saying he was trying to get a Crow's Eye quite a while ago, then I got the exact same rolls he talked about on a Crow's Eye about 30 minutes later.
Any good now? ... Possibly better than the Wormwood?
EDIT: Updated the image with a fully upgraded one.
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I have a PDX45 I haven't messed with much but it's a good roll, gonna have to test it sometime
Upcoming Health Regen Perk Corrections
There were some unintended changes applied to Health Regen Perks due to a change to Hungering Blade. You can read the full Patch Notes here and the further Explanation of what happened here. In the last 3 days since the Hotfix we have been listening to the feedback from the community and been working on some corrections . Our current plan is to roll back most of the unintended changes like Ward of Dawn cast, and Embrace the void. You can read the full list of rollbacks below. The other affected Perks are getting different changes that the Sandbox design team believes will be more beneficial to the game rather than simply rolling back to the old settings. Here is Sandbox Designer Josh Hamrick with an explanation of the changes.
Josh Hamrick: When we talked about Regen earlier in the week I ambiguously talked about what and when we would be making changes because I wasn’t entirely sure. The majority of the change wasn’t intentional, but when I looked at the problem from afar, I could see how it may be beneficial in some ways after hearing feedback from the community following the Sandbox preview stream. For example, some of you had concerns that Hungering Blade was changing while other similar perks, such as Cauterize, were not. This unintended change was going to give us the ability to see what that would look like to make both of those changes. I wanted to make it clear that it was possible that we could find something that we wanted to keep. I didn’t want to say that we’d put it all back, when we might not.
Having an enemies ability or attack be able to completely erase any progress you've made and completely reset an encounter feels bad. Also, when 1 hit kill weapons are less dominant those abilities and attacks become more dominant, as they are much harder to stop. This change allows those abilities and attacks to still recover large portions of health and buy themselves more time without completely resetting the encounter and negating all cumulative damage that had come before.
We have watched and listened all week and this is the current plan moving forward. I’m going to give numbers so that you have all the info, but THESE NUMBERS MAY CHANGE:
For each of the elements below we are going to keep the change, but buff the amount of health you get back (+58%)
- Hungering Blade
- Red Death
- Lifesteal
- Transfusion (we are also removing the cooldown)
- Cauterize (we are also removing the cooldown)
For all the rest, we will be reverting the change entirely
- Suros Regime
- No Backup Plans
- Ward of Dawn cast
- Apotheosis Veil
- Embrace the Void
We do not have a date that these changes will take place but are currently working on them and conducting tests. It is early in the process, so all of this is subject to change. But as of now, this is the plan. We will give you more details about when you can expect to see these changes in the game as soon as we can.
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Seriously though I think this could all end up working out pretty well.
I'm pleasantly surprised by both how quickly they declared to the community that they're going to change it back, and that they're doing it in a more targeted manner. I think I'm okay with the way they're implementing those changes.
Anyways, I'm hopping online to play now, feel free to join me.
Have you seen him? Now you have
58% HP back =/= Full HP regen.
But it's instant and the cooldown is removed for Cauterize, Lifesteal, and Transfusion. I think it's a fair trade off. This game is all about time in PvP, who can kill the opponent faster? If you recover health instantly regardless of damage you can survive even under sustained fire when you proc healing perks, but it doesn't initiate regen so it doesn't reset the encounter. I think it's a great trade off.
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Granted, I'm not sure what the internal cooldown time is.
Guess I read it wrong, then it still sounds like a huge nerf compared to full regen, that would land it around a 10-20% hp back (assuming I'm right about the current being 5-10%), no cooldown doesnt seem to matter that much when you need a melee charge for it to work.
I sure as fuck dont see the gain here - Bungie fucked up and now they are cherrypicking what abilities gets to have the nerfs reverted... Nerfs they didnt even mean to do in the first place? Fuck that.
They'll probably fuck it up again anyway.
EDIT: I really with the live team wasn't so compelled to make tons of arbitrary little changes, and sweeping changes like with special ammo, so late in Destiny's life.
Have you seen him? Now you have
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I'm okay with them using Destiny 1 as a test lab if the data makes launch Destiny 2 amazing.
Sure, but the data about player behavior to different types of perks is useful regardless I imagine.
I'll be on around 11!
It shows that the Live team is trying. Crucible and Trials is a picky critter to balance. D2 is looming on us this year but they are still tweeking and fixing the meta of the 1st game. How many companies do that these days?
And well, I'm new to Destiny and just did my first Trials/Vault this weekend. And man, it was an experience. The game changes slowly, but it does change over time and I appreciate that.
Decent PvP roll?
Have you seen him? Now you have
"No Land Beyond is a joke weapon", "Sidearms are useless"
Everything else gets nerfed and this happens, which anyone could have guessed to be honest.
I wonder how long it will be for them to get nerfed, not because they are too strong, but because everything else is weak and these guns will be gaining a lot more popularity soon.
EDIT: Sidearm usage up by 50%+, shotguns down by 45%+ for a paltry 3%+ shotgun usage, hahaha, they have no idea what they are doing.
Reddit even has this thread already. https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/5uxjfz/calls_to_nerf_no_land_beyond_are_the_exact_reason/
This chaperone quest is exactly as much nonsense as everyone said. I'm going to try to cheese it with mayhem clash, play defensively and try to go on sprees, but geez.
Tried just playing with the last word last night and it's weird. Oldest news to you OG guys but figuring out how to accurately hip fire and where the effective range on this thing stops is very strange.
Full Auto increases your pellet spread, reducing your OHK distance
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I didn't want to add this to my monster post but would you feel this way if two or three times as many people total were in trials? Is it along because those people don't deserve lighthouse trips or is it because it's making it too hard for the normal people? I honestly don't have an opinion so no judgment here either way.
But the people paying for carries also missed the point of the Lighthouse completely.
Aye, It's technically against the terms of use to exchange real world money for services like this.
When I say everything I mean everything. You can pay for them to join you in Patrol or complete story missions and raids. Or you know, the standard Lighthouse trip.
Some people...
Have you seen him? Now you have
Gross. I really dislike that culture that surrounds Trials of Osiris. Paid carries are missing the point of the game mode.
Just like 50s in Halo 3 where people used to buy them. What satisfaction can someone possibly get from being ez-mode carried to the Lighthouse?
Have you seen him? Now you have
Any good now? ... Possibly better than the Wormwood?
EDIT: Updated the image with a fully upgraded one.