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Iron Fist

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Jesus, three weeks? That's terrible. Man, I feel really sorry for this guy. No one is going to watch it and go "oh I guess he didn't have time to prepare", they'll just think he's lazy or he sucks. Professional stuntmen probably couldn't do a good job with choreography they learned 15 fucking minutes ago.

    I feel bad for him about that, but it's just plain bad casting. Compare it to Arrow, which was a much less ambitious undertaking and they got the right actor for the role (someone who can actually do the salmon ladder, arguably the most important part of Arrow)

    Or even (Arrow spoilers)
    Caity Lotz as Black Canary vs Katie Cassidy as Black Canary

    It's no way Finn Jones' fault at all, but man why cast him if he's in no way prepared for the role?

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular

    And you're telling me Liam Neeson ISN'T in this?

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  • Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    Finished the last episode just now. I found the series reasonably entertaining. It helps when you come into the early part seeing the show as deliberately making Danny arrogant and ignorant, rather than trying to portray a perfect saint and failing.

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Seeing a white dude act like a human fortune cookie is still a massive tough sell for me.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    So you're saying my giant fortune cookie costume for Halloween is a nonstarter?

  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Seeing a white dude act like a human fortune cookie is still a massive tough sell for me.

    Honestly all the asian characters are just as badly written

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    It is a thing for straight hair to become curly, though as far as I am aware there isn't a universal explanation for why it happens.

    pretty sure it's hormone-related as it usually happens in puberty

    It also can happen after chemo therapy. Losing your hair can definitely cause it.

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  • Giggles_FunsworthGiggles_Funsworth Blight on Discourse Bay Area SprawlRegistered User regular
    It is a thing for straight hair to become curly, though as far as I am aware there isn't a universal explanation for why it happens.

    pretty sure it's hormone-related as it usually happens in puberty

    It also can happen after chemo therapy. Losing your hair can definitely cause it.

    And pregnancy. My mom had straight hair until she had kids.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Episode 8

    Lewis Tan would have been such a better choice for Danny it hurts

    I'd never heard of him before, this made me feel like he should be a star. Like, he's fucking magnificent in this.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Mr. G wrote: »

    And you're telling me Liam Neeson ISN'T in this?

    That's one of the most annoying fight scenes. Why does The Iron Fist have so much trouble with one fucking guy?

  • Devlin_DragonusDevlin_Dragonus Gorgeous Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    So another interesting piece of info I found while checking up on the every 15 years thing, apparently Finn Jones is also an orphan and identifies with Danny on a personal level.

    Kinda explains his defense of the show earlier before it's release.

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Kana wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Seeing a white dude act like a human fortune cookie is still a massive tough sell for me.

    Honestly all the asian characters are just as badly written

    The show fails on multiple fronts. The ones relevant to this post are the casting and writing.

    For me, the best case scenario would've been a AA Iron Fist written non-stereotypically. Second best scenario would've been a white Iron Fist written non-stereotypically.

    Instead, we get a white Iron Fist acting like an Asian stereotype. The worst of both worlds.

    So if they took that little care with the main protagonist, I would imagine they took as little or less with the actual Asian characters.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »

    And you're telling me Liam Neeson ISN'T in this?

    That's one of the most annoying fight scenes. Why does The Iron Fist have so much trouble with one fucking guy?

    I think danny actually did worse here than jon Favreau in iron man 2

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    one thing that has stood out to me is that Iron FIst doesn't seem very goodd at fighting guys

    I don't mean the actor, I mean the character has a lot of trouble fighting like, random mooks

    I liked that in daredevil, but in this it makes no sense

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  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    And even Daredevil got better at it over time.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    And even Daredevil got better at it over time.

    I don't think Daredevil was ever as bad as Ironfist. Yeah that second episode hallway fight destroyed him but he took on like a dozen Russian Mobsters there.

    Hey you know what I just noticed? This show also kinda makes the Hand look a lot weaker than previous appearances.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    Was UMVC3 a lie? This was all I knew about Iron Fist and I thought he was a fucking badass

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYH_i6qUg7Q

    but this show makes him seem like a guy who's just really good at Kung Fu.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Daredevil does some impressive shit and when he has trouble it's usually because he's fighting like a half a dozen dudes at once or a magical ninja or the Punisher

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Was UMVC3 a lie? This was all I knew about Iron Fist and I thought he was a fucking badass

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYH_i6qUg7Q

    but this show makes him seem like a guy who's just really good at Kung Fu.

    I mean yes that is what the iron fist is

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Daredevil does some impressive shit and when he has trouble it's usually because he's fighting like a half a dozen dudes at once or a magical ninja or the Punisher

    Where the hell were the magical ninjas?
    They do a tournament episode and the best the Hand could offer was sex and two guys who are way to into each other?

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    You guys are kind of making it sound like Iron Fist doesn't know how to bring the ruckus

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  • Blue mapBlue map Hello darkness, my old friend. Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Wyborn wrote: »
    You guys are kind of making it sound like Iron Fist doesn't know how to bring the ruckus
    Was there a reason they used the censored version of that song?

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  • KanaKana Registered User regular
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Kana wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Seeing a white dude act like a human fortune cookie is still a massive tough sell for me.

    Honestly all the asian characters are just as badly written

    The show fails on multiple fronts. The ones relevant to this post are the casting and writing.

    For me, the best case scenario would've been a AA Iron Fist written non-stereotypically. Second best scenario would've been a white Iron Fist written non-stereotypically.

    Instead, we get a white Iron Fist acting like an Asian stereotype. The worst of both worlds.

    So if they took that little care with the main protagonist, I would imagine they took as little or less with the actual Asian characters.

    Well, it would've been even worse if we had an asian iron fist acting stereotypically

    Then it's not just lack of representation that's a problem.

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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Tube wrote: »
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Episode 8

    Lewis Tan would have been such a better choice for Danny it hurts

    I'd never heard of him before, this made me feel like he should be a star. Like, he's fucking magnificent in this.

    Yeah, I hadn't heard of him either, but after that scene I paused the show to look up who the heck that was because holy crap

    Also,



    I mean, goddamn

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    "it could've been worse" is hardly cause for praise

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    did he hashtag his own name

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    did he hashtag his own name

    If he can do all that and have the kind of charisma and screen presence he did in his scene in the show, he can hashtag his name all he wants as far as I'm concerned.

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    I did not and will not watch this show

    Was the RZA's episode good at least

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  • KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Daredevil does some impressive shit and when he has trouble it's usually because he's fighting like a half a dozen dudes at once or a magical ninja or the Punisher

    Where the hell were the magical ninjas?
    They do a tournament episode and the best the Hand could offer was sex and two guys who are way to into each other?

    They've pretty much turned the Hand into Hydra.
    There are different Hand factions. The ones in Iron Fist are apparently the lamest factions.

  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Like, if it was just one aspect that's bad, I could deal with it. But this is the casting, the writing, the fighting, and the baggage carried by the very concept of the character.

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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    As someone who has lost whatever appreciation he once had for ninjas in black pajamas I prefer Iron Fist's version of The Hand so far

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Jesus christ he can even make nunchaku not look silly

  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    I'm only 4 episodes in but what exactly is the stakes in this show? Like, I'm not sure why I should care about Danny and his struggles.

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    I'm only 4 episodes in but what exactly is the stakes in this show? Like, I'm not sure why I should care about Danny and his struggles.

    To be fair neither is he.

    The show really is directionless for way too long

  • PhantPhant Registered User regular
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Like, if it was just one aspect that's bad, I could deal with it. But this is the casting, the writing, the fighting, and the baggage carried by the very concept of the character.

    After some thought, I feel like it was hard to be offended by the casting because the bad writing makes Danny very much seem like a white guy who trained real hard at kung-fu but really, really failed at absorbing any of the rest of the philosophy or culture. Which is probably less offensive than if he had come across as a smoothly zen Asian-martial-arts-master. Granted, this makes him seem like an insufferable douche through this series, but if they can balance his character a bit for the Defenders he might come off a bit better.

  • TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Phant wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Like, if it was just one aspect that's bad, I could deal with it. But this is the casting, the writing, the fighting, and the baggage carried by the very concept of the character.

    After some thought, I feel like it was hard to be offended by the casting because the bad writing makes Danny very much seem like a white guy who trained real hard at kung-fu but really, really failed at absorbing any of the rest of the philosophy or culture. Which is probably less offensive than if he had come across as a smoothly zen Asian-martial-arts-master. Granted, this makes him seem like an insufferable douche through this series, but if they can balance his character a bit for the Defenders he might come off a bit better.

    So basically, "We accidentally made it less offensive than it could have been."

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Lewis Tan for Nightwing

  • PhantPhant Registered User regular
    Also, I've just started watching Daredevil, having watched Luke Cage and now Iron Fist, Madame Gao is hard to figure, Kingpin seems very much like a amateur operator compared to what I've seen of her.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Which episode was the rza

  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    i watched all of this. I wish it was better.

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