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What If...You Read This Thread?

LanglyLangly Registered User regular
edited May 2007 in Graphic Violence
Think back on your childhood. Even if you're a relatively young person right now, there are probably moments when you wonder what might have been. What if you hadn't married Susan, and instead gone with Jane? What if you had formed that rock band you and your friends were always talking about. What if old Bob hadn't died in that fire after all. What if you had had that sex change? What if you hadn't been hit with that dose of radiation that turned you into Spider-Man? Of course, the answer might be that Jane ended up being a whore, your band failed, no man would touch you, and that now Flash Thompson is Spider-Man, which sucks. You never know, when you walk down the path that might have been.

Yes, you've probably had these very same questions wander through from time to time. Nostalgia and curiosity are part of the human experience - and because comic book writers happen to be human as well, they too have these same thoughts. They wonder how their characters could have evolved, who might have died, and what the effects would have been. Main characters can be killed off without restraint, so it also gives the creators a little bit more leeway. This thread is devoted to the best and worst What If stories out there. They range from the plausible:

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To the slightly silly:

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To the completely ridiculous:

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And finally, the prophetic:

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So, which What If stories do you like most? Is it the one where Spider-Man keeps his six arms, or the one where Rick Jones becomes the Hulk? Maybe it's the one where Tony Stark becomes Sorcerer Supreme? I pulled from the actual Marvel "What If" series, but DC's elseworld line is also acceptable - I just don't know any of those stories.

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    What if Punisher killed everyone. That wasn't the name though. The Legion one was good, but I was toally into his storyline in mainstream Uncanny so that might still color my love for it.

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    DeVryGuyDeVryGuy Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I think my favorite was the one where Uncle Ben lived and Aunt May died.

    Uncle Ben was kind of a dick.

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Malkor wrote: »
    What if Punisher killed everyone. That wasn't the name though. The Legion one was good, but I was toally into his storyline in mainstream Uncanny so that might still color my love for it.

    Punisher Kills The Marvel Universe

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited May 2007
    A few of the recent What Ifs? were pretty good. The Age of Apocalypse and Enemy of the State ones, at least.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    Malkor wrote: »
    What if Punisher killed everyone. That wasn't the name though. The Legion one was good, but I was toally into his storyline in mainstream Uncanny so that might still color my love for it.

    Punisher Kills The Marvel Universe

    The best part is when he kills doom. Somehow he incapacitates him and then takes a big ol hammer to his head. The sound effects go "KLANG KLANG KLANG SPLAT"

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    bobgorilabobgorila Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    What if Superman's pod had landed on a Soviet farming commune?

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    bobgorila wrote: »
    What if Superman's pod had landed on a Soviet farming commune?

    I think that's the only one I've read. It's pretty good except for the ending.

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    BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Langly wrote: »
    bobgorila wrote: »
    What if Superman's pod had landed on a Soviet farming commune?

    I think that's the only one I've read. It's pretty good especially the ending.

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    Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The last What If I read was that horrible Age of Apocalypse one-shot that came out a few months back.

    The guy might as well have written "A wizard did it!" at the end.

    Anyway, the Rogue Thor one was pretty cool.

    And I don't see what's implausible about Xavier becoming the Juggernaut.

    As for Elseworlds, besides Red Son, which everyone always mentions, I really liked Gotham by Gaslight (about Batman in the 19th century, chasing Jack the Ripper, who's fled to Gotham).

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    MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I had the issue a long time ago about what if the Punisher had managed to kill Spider-Man. It was pretty sad, until Punisher murdered a bunch of bad guys.

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    FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I'm kind of curious about this Venom+Punisher What If. Intrigued, even. TELL ME MORE!

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    I'm kind of curious about this Venom+Punisher What If. Intrigued, even. TELL ME MORE!

    I'm pretty sure he ended up killing some bad guys with guns or something.

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    legion's gotta kill magneto quick, because the house party's about to start!

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    SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I have the Venom-Punisher one. I'll see if I can get some choice scans from it.

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    FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Langly wrote: »
    Fiaryn wrote: »
    I'm kind of curious about this Venom+Punisher What If. Intrigued, even. TELL ME MORE!

    I'm pretty sure he ended up killing some bad guys with guns or something.

    You're a fucking Sage, good sir, and your insight is profound.


    Die in a fire if you would be so kind.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    I only remember one Elseworlds.
    It was something about Harvey Dent being Batman, but he was crazy and killed people.
    Bruce ended up putting on like samurai armor and kicking his ass.

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    RedeemerRedeemer Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Was The Doom That Came To Gotham considered an Elseworlds?

    I really liked that one

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
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    DMACDMAC Come at me, bro! Moderator mod
    edited May 2007
    The basic rule of thumb is that if anything in the Marvel Universe had happened differently, everyone would have died.

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    What if ... Ghost Rider runs a fast food joint? (What if #34)

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    FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    JoeUser wrote: »
    What if ... Ghost Rider runs a fast food joint? (What if #34)

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    You improved my quality of life by posting that. <3

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    my all time favorite elseworlds is probably the jsa liberty files series

    the costume designs tony harris came up with are like tiny suns shining off the pages

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
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    This is the one where Flash become Spider-Man instead of Peter. Peter builds artificial spider legs and proceeds to kick his ass, as well as becoming the new, mechanical spider-man.

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    Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Redeemer wrote: »
    Was The Doom That Came To Gotham considered an Elseworlds?

    I really liked that one

    Yes. Lovecraftian Batman. DONE BY MIKE MIGNOLA YES!

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I bought the 'What if Iron Man sold out?' one as a birthday present for a friend. He was very happy. I read it first, though, and it was awesome.

    I only own a few myself. That is, unless you count Exiles. Mmmmm...

    The new series that was all set in one universe was pretty cool. Native American Captain America, Communist Fantastic Four, and ninja Daredevil? Sheesh.

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    Dex DynamoDex Dynamo Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Yeah, what if the Punisher became Captain America!

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    Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    What if No One was Watching the Watcher was so awesome. So so awesome.

    'What if Galactus became Elvis?'
    'What if Ghost Rider fell asleep?'
    'What if Stark Industries was a chain of laundro-mat services?'

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    HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I like reading what happens in these stories on the http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/

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    Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Langly wrote: »
    [IM G]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jhoman85/Spidey.jpg[/IMG]

    This is the one where Flash become Spider-Man instead of Peter. Peter builds artificial spider legs and proceeds to kick his ass, as well as becoming the new, mechanical spider-man.
    So was Spider-Flash evil or something, or was Parker just being an asshole

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    ArcibiArcibi Registered User regular
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    Langly wrote: »
    [IM G]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jhoman85/Spidey.jpg[/IMG]

    This is the one where Flash become Spider-Man instead of Peter. Peter builds artificial spider legs and proceeds to kick his ass, as well as becoming the new, mechanical spider-man.
    So was Spider-Flash evil or something, or was Parker just being an asshole

    Spider-Flash ended up becoming a bad guy

    Parker builds mechanical spider-arms to fight him with

    Flash gets thrown in jail or something and Parker becomes the new Spider-Man that everyone loves

    If I remember correctly

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    HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    And he joins the Fantastic Four, which happens all the time to alternate Spider-Men.

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    ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Arcibi wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    [IM G]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r219/jhoman85/Spidey.jpg[/IMG]

    This is the one where Flash become Spider-Man instead of Peter. Peter builds artificial spider legs and proceeds to kick his ass, as well as becoming the new, mechanical spider-man.
    So was Spider-Flash evil or something, or was Parker just being an asshole

    Spider-Flash ended up becoming a bad guy

    Parker builds mechanical spider-arms to fight him with

    Flash gets thrown in jail or something and Parker becomes the new Spider-Man that everyone loves

    If I remember correctly

    Yeah, at the end Mr. Fantastic offers him the serum or venom or whatever to become spider-man, then decides to pour it down the drain. Peter is not very happy with this decision.

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    GreyHunter316GreyHunter316 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    Redeemer wrote: »
    Was The Doom That Came To Gotham considered an Elseworlds?

    I really liked that one

    Yes. Lovecraftian Batman. DONE BY MIKE MIGNOLA YES!

    Does any one have scans from this I keep hearing about it and I wanna see what its like.

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    JebuJebu Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The What If where the X-Men stayed in Asgard was pretty sweet.

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    WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    And I don't see what's implausible about Xavier becoming the Juggernaut.
    Especially given that New Excalibur recently established that Cyttorak had exactly that in mind.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Man Marvel needs to create like a tomb of the What If...s there always fun to read. Like "What if Peter Parker was bit by a Sheep?" or "what if Col. Thunder was the Hulk?"

    What if The Punisher became Capt. America huh?

    Well someone could see the future...and it was good.


    My personal favorite though?

    What if Ash came to the Marvel universe?

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    bobgorilabobgorila Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ever read Holy Terror Batman?

    It's basically a "what if Oliver Cromwell lived and turned America into this giant holy empire". Bruce's parents are killed by the church for giving medical aid to escapees from the state's medical experimentation facilities, so he becomes a priest by day, and Batman by night.

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The only one I read was "What If Impossible Man got the Infinity Gauntlet?"

    Everyone was reeeal pissed at him. IIRC, he slapped Thanos around a bit and got really silly.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    What if the DC and Marvel universes combined?
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