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Niche Gaming and Joe Maddenite
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Goddamn it, here we go again. Do you go out of your way to proclaim that the only true road to gaming is through playing Madden, or do you insult people who dare to touch non-Madden games? That's what the freaking term applies to.
You obviously haven't come across that definition in this thread. Lurk moar.
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"Your taste in games sucks, and you're killing the industry".
Maddenites, by very defition, are stupid and one dimensional. If you're not, you're not a Maddenite.
Glad we could clear that up.
It doesn't contradict anything you said... just adding to it for the sake of completeness.
All too often people forget that corporations owe a debt to its employees, not the other way around.
Why is it that almost every thread on this forum turns into a dissertation on how awful Nintendo is, and then immediately evolves into people mocking how "pro-Nintendo" this forum is? If it was so pro-Nintendo, then why does almost every thread contain people bitching about Nintendo even if it's totally unrelated to the topic?
false? How can my opinion of you offering games outside of a genre to someone be false? I think it's silly, that's all. I have no idea where you're getting all this shit from. No one called you stupid or claimed you were 'mentally deficient". There's no issue to address other than you boo hooing cause you could get someone to buy a game outside a genre of their general interest.
Sure, most people don't have my taste (I buy Okami, Psychonauts and indeed far more niche games), but that can't be helped.
Yeah, I remember getting extremely worked up about that myself... then I played the game. I even forgot to put games like Starfox and Warioware on that list of stagnation. I remember people on these boards complaining about the three Jak games we got in a matter of three to four years... but overlook the five Warioware games we got within such a short timeframe.
Opinions should ideally be based on adequate information. You do not have adequate information, and aren't making an opinion. Instead, you're making an assumption that I am too dense to understand the technicalities of interpersonal relations that just about every mentally competent individual understands on a subconcious level, and as such am unable to do anything but say "HAY U WUD LIKE TIS GAME ITS GOT PREDY GRAFIX AND IT IS FUN PLEEZE BY IT BEFORE I GET FIRED."
I can assure you, nothing like this took place. Thanks for your concern, stop making excuses for the Maddenites.
What in the hell are you even talking about?
But then again, if people are going to buy the game anyway then why bother making it good? Just make it look good and don't allow reviews until well after release.
Thankfully there are still plenty of game makers out there who take pride in their work.
When did this 'limited foray' start? Games have been mainstream since the ps1
See what I did there?
this is true
Mainstream? By what standard?
Also, Madden has had far more iterations than Mario has had in the main series. That's excluding all the external use of the liscense, just talking about the original Donkey Kong, Super Mario Bros. and up through SMG. That, and the use of 3D in Madden games is not integral to the gameplay. Madden 07 could be entirely 2D, and the gameplay wouldn't change one bit.
You have to be a joke account. Seriously.
Modified.
You know, I played Madden on my Genesis and it was quite a bit different. Genesis I had a choice of three receivers and three audibles. Not to mention the players were in tiny windows on top of the screen, which did not allow me to see how far down the field they were. Also, there was no franchise management, trading players, player draft, or dynasty mode. In case you don't know, that isn't the case in 07.
WOW!!! Now I can call you fucking stupid.
You are FUCKING STUPID!
Edit: Seriously, what would change? Aside from the graphics, you're still passing, running, or in some way manipulating a ball in a basic 2D environment. Back, forth, left, right. The only up-and-down applies to the ball, but that was simulated fine in 2D. It hasn't changed the gameplay.
Just... step away from your keyboard.
Trust me, it'll do you some good.
For one, there are physics which are really hard to do with 2D. 3D also allows you to get a better view of the game instead of being forced to have a fixed perspective.
Well, actually I did mention the thing about the receiver windows. That was because it was limited to 2d. Or they could go the Tecmo Bowl route and make the players literally take up a quarter of the field's width just so you can see them and the entire field. This leads to it being impossible to evade tackles.
Yeah you're done
Perhaps, but that is your opinion. "Little things" to you were huge things to me when the first 3D Madden came out.
Much like someone's opinion about Mario in 3D might be the same. I mean, you still jump on Goombas and collect coins, no? It's easy to say the gameplay hasn't changed
(And wonder hippie is right, you guys are nuts for not seeing his point)
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Gears would be the same shit in 2D too. i mean, you're just shooting shit and hiding behind blocks. Hell, Descent would have been the same in 2D too. Why even waste time in the 3rd Dimension? It's obviously all the same shit.
Now, 4D... that's where it's at!
O_o Have you ever played Madden or any 3D football game?
Do you understand the concept of dimensional space?
The ability to manipulate the camera is a huge deal. Imagine trying to play doom from an isometric perspective. It would be a different game even if the enemy placement was the same. You cannot simulate the ball to even close to the same degree in 2D. 3D also allows for more precise movements that wouldn't be possible in 2D.
Jumping, diving, ball trajectory, ball bounces, tackles.
All of those things are greatly GREATLY improved by having the game be 3D.
Some of these things aren't even possible in 2D.
Shit, do you?