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MechWarrior 2 and the crashing thereof
Shadowen
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Right, so I don't know how this'll work. Um.
I'm trying to install MechWarrior II Titanium Edition. I have a hankering for smacking down some big fuckin' 'Mechs, and Mech3, for whatever reason, isn't doing it for me.
I have WinXP home edition, updated in all high priority ways, or so WindowsUpdate.com tells me. When I try to run the install program, I get an error saying NTVDM.exe (the Virtual DOS, has encountered a problem and needs to close. Checking the Event Viewer, I find that the problem is that:
I've already followed the instructions on the Windows Support site (checkdisk, etc.). Is there any way for me to fix this, or will I have to resign myself to not playing programs that rely on NTVDM, or is my hard disk beginning to disintegrate and I should replace it before it goes all melty on me?
I'm trying to install MechWarrior II Titanium Edition. I have a hankering for smacking down some big fuckin' 'Mechs, and Mech3, for whatever reason, isn't doing it for me.
I have WinXP home edition, updated in all high priority ways, or so WindowsUpdate.com tells me. When I try to run the install program, I get an error saying NTVDM.exe (the Virtual DOS, has encountered a problem and needs to close. Checking the Event Viewer, I find that the problem is that:
Fucking WindowsXP wrote:Windows cannot access the file C:\WINDOWS\system32\userenv.dll for one of the following reasons: there is a problem with the network connection, the disk that the file is stored on, or the storage drivers installed on this computer; or the disk is missing. Windows closed the program Userenv because of this error.
I've already followed the instructions on the Windows Support site (checkdisk, etc.). Is there any way for me to fix this, or will I have to resign myself to not playing programs that rely on NTVDM, or is my hard disk beginning to disintegrate and I should replace it before it goes all melty on me?
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No, I have not. Will do.
Also, this program won't install either. Will try it.
Would if I could, but apparently, just because it's a 16-bit program that causes the virtual DOS machine to run doesn't make it a DOS program. DOSBox counts both it and the Mech-making program I linked to as Windows-environment applications.
To be precise, when I type in setup, it interprets it as "win setup", and then says that "win" is an illegal command.
Yeah. I'd noticed.
There were no less than three versions of MW2. Regular DOS version, Win95/Pentium Edition(the one I have, leftover from my P133 MMX Aptiva), and Titanium (Win95 version + GPU support). The Win95/Pentium Edition versions don't run in XP. I recommend either still having my old P133 MMX Aptiva exclusively for the purpose of playing MW2, or picking up MW4: Mercs for like $10-$20 + MekTek mod.
Drunks Against Mad Mothers
...hm.
*for a completely unrelated reason, fires up Azureus*
EDIT: And the only information I could find on somehow getting around that is a patch that only works once you've installed the damn thing. Bleah. Looks like I'm stuck with Mech3, which is okay but vastly inferior in most respects to Mech2.
Hence my recommendation of MW4: Mercs, which I think is actually better than MW2 if for no other reason than because autocannons and PPCs work properly.
Drunks Against Mad Mothers
I actually prefer the old DOS version I bought, because the game still looks very nice without textures, and I have no problems running it in Dosbox. In fact, the latest release of Dosbox makes Mechwarrior 2 run like a dream, even in SVGA!
EDIT: While MW4 is nice, imo, it can't properly convey the feeling of piloting a huge and heavy mech like Mechwarrior 2 does.
With a joystick it's just MW2 except faster/smoother. Movement is kind of more realistic (particularly regarding terrain), and you have a little more freedom with it. Plus, jump-jets as jump-jets instead of rocket-skates changes their function to be more like the board game as well. Mostly it's just that I am a big fan of autocannons and PPCs, though. In the board game they were fucking clutch when you needed some medium mechs that can hurt heavies.
Edit: And your FCS and HUD are both leagues better than in MW2. And pointing individual arms to fire gives some mechs a 360 degree firing-radius.
Drunks Against Mad Mothers
Drunks Against Mad Mothers
Spoken like true Inner Sphere freeborn trash.
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Anybody?
The Titanium Edition also includes the DOS versions on the disc.
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..huh? The only hitscan weapon in MW4 was the (pulse) lasers.
PPCs, Gauss, missiles, MGs and ACs all had different travel times.
This is truth. I'm not sure how anyone could prefer the MW2 autocannon over the MW4 one regardless though, given that the things were utterly worthless in MW2.
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I was about to say...
Hell, they're even damn good in MW2 if you pick the right mission and bring enough ammo with you.
Also:
Neg, dezgra. The Crusaders lost and the Wardens are the true scions of Kerensky. Deal.
But the real trick is that because of this error the game won't install at all, so all these patches are useless to me.
So I took out my frustrations by beating Mech3, from start to finish, my first real attempt at the single-player campaign, in five hours.
What we need is Mech5, bringing back the best aspects of every game...including roleplaying and character advancement from the original.
Most missions in GBL required me to kill more than one enemy. Autocannons were still worthless.
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Heh...ok fair enough. Curses! Foiled again.
Set the installer file in the CD to Win95 compatibility, and it will run fine (I'm talking about titanium here).
and I've tested the Titanium Patch, it only works with the base MW2 game, Ghost Bear and Mercenaries are still not working
On the other hand, if you were careful, you would be able to tear through opponents in the Trials, and online mech2 was also decent as you wouldn't last long enough for ammo to be an issue most of the time.
I just tried this. Sadly it freezes on launch.
The install process or the game?
Well, for me, the install process. Or, more accurately, I get the error mentioned in the OP.
In MW2: Mercs, the Hunchback was a funny joke in Solaris matches. In MW4: Mercs, the Hunchback was fucking lethal in Solaris matches.
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It installs perfectly, I tried both 3D accelerated and non. Both times I launch it, hear the correct sound effects, and then it goes to a black screen with an hourglass and sits there.
It seems to be a combination of *.dll hacks and a glide wrapper. I'll wait till my Titanium Edition arives and then I'll tell you if this works (or if it contains any viruses or other nasty things