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Seriously, what's your problem? Sufjan makes good music, Illinois in particular, and there's nothing in the wikipedia entry about him being a dick. And, even if he was a dick, what does that have anything to do with his music?
That's what I always liked about them. It's their charm.
On that note, Ali Farka Touré .
Not even their best album, let alone one of the best in power metal. The male vocals were forced, Tarja's vocals lost their operatic charm and became pop mush, the songwriting was generic, and the whole thing in general was over-produced. Century Child was at least twice as good, but Oceanborn is my favorite.
I thought "Wishmaster" was their pinnacle. But that's really like saying you liked the second half of "Oceanborn".
@YosemiteSam: I didn't insta-hate Sufjan, but when I read that he was making 50 concept albums - one for each state - I did kind of look at the monitor like it had shrimp falling out of the back of it.
I disagree. I think Once is their most listenable album.
Rain Dogs - Tom Waits
Surfer Rosa - The Pixies
I'd post the cover art, but Surfer Rosa has boobs.
but yeah, the male vocals are awful.
Yeah exactly, Rain Dogs is the album I put on when I want to do something fun/engaging and Alice is a much more stay in and mellow out kinda thing.
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Also, if the over the top part of Dragonforce is what attracts you, there are other bands doing the cheese aspect without being a complete third rate clone of every other European power metal band. Might want to try Powerwolf's new album "Lupus Dei." Vampires and werewolves are truly better subjects.
p.s. Nightwish can be pretty terrible on quite a few songs. "I wish I had an Angel" is definitely of the worst songs that come to mind.
The Dragonforce comments seem inacurate. They are one of the most technically accomplished bands in the genre.
Technically accomplished because they play a sped up version of bands like Rhapsody? No thanks. At least Rhapsody was able to write a small handful of interesting songs. They have the same songwriting problems as those other bands which includes very monotonous drumming and poor lyrics. This wouldn't be as big of a drawback if they could expand their sound a little bit. Being able to play the guitar/keyboard quickly doesn't do much if you can't create something interesting with it. Even more so when most songs sound similar enough to bring about comparisons to the likes of AC/DC and Rhapsody in this area.
shaggoth, i suppose that's a matter of taste and what you're listening for. his biggest problem was that his songs seemed to lack a little in overall construction. it's a little decentralized. but that aside, i still think he's the best of them. yeah, he's not as flashy as tim reynolds, but he has a greater sense and understanding of harmony (i say this as a huge fan of tim reynolds' solo work), and his techinque allowed him to capitalize on that. his songs don't sound as foward moving as, say, leo kottke's songs, but as awesome as kottke is, i think that hedge's melodies are better constructed. mostly it's the lack of solid structure that bothers people.
as far as dragonforce goes, you have to just take them for what they are. i liked sonic firestorm when it came out, but i understand that they're not exactly groundbreaking. basically, they play really really fast solos. the melodies aren't terrible, but they aren't really that interesting either. they're like a rambo movie. when you get the theatre, you know what the fuck's up.
Yes that is exactly what I dislike about the man's music.
that isn't even true at all
have you seen them play? live they're alright but it's so noisy you can't really tell, but their "bet you can't play this" is the worst thing i've ever seen. i'm not saying they aren't a good band (i like them!) but so many people have them beat for just shredding - even in the 80s.
Nuff said.
Too many?
If you love those than it's a no brainer. The newest album Playing the Angel is also suprisingly good, unlike a lot of the mid to late 90's stuff.
Remain In Light is a pretty great album as well.
Fashion Nugget is a lot of fun, but I don't know that I could place it on a "greatest albums" list.
The Downward Spiral didn't really do it for me, but I guess I kind of preferred Pretty Hate Machine-era Nine Inch Nails.
Why isn't there any love for Mr. Bowie?
Nadine Seksuel, Human Swashbuckler - Wyvern Watch DW
GM of [Deadlands: Reloaded] Coffin Rock
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Depeche Mode is great party or bar music. Not so great to sit and listen to by yourself