No, no, I liked the movie. Just a little confused about some of the choices made, but I imagine that's always the case with fans of a book watching a movie adaptation. I agree that the chase up the mountain at the end was a spectacular scene.
I wasn't trying to decry the movie, I was just pointing out to the OP that the book had no love story.
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all of the scenes where the 3 were leading the two pretty ladies to the fort were all fairly spectacular to me as well. Mann was successful in creating these 3 completely bad ass frontiersmen but also making them believeable.
And Mogwa is easily my favorite antagonist in all of moviedom. You knew why he did what he did and couldnt dislike him for it. The scene where he reaches his hand out to the white hair daughter before she leaps still gives my eyes a bad case of Niagra Falls.
dammit I'm watching this bastard for the 30th time tonight. Thanks for making my friday night a loser fellas.
Because I think we can all sympathize with the wanting to forget you business.
There's not enough limes in the world to express how much this needs to be limed.
Yeah I was honestly surprised it took as long as it did to get mentioned. My favorite love story of all times, and one of my favorite movies as well. Definitely not sappy, and almost frighteningly realistic.
Everyone who has ever lived (and loved) at some point wishes they could simply erase feelings. This puts into light what might actually happen if we could, and raises points of why inherently we aren't and shouldn't be able to play god.
Also I didn't like Garden State at all for some reason, which is odd because I like Braff as an actor, I guess just not a writer.
Yes. This movie is awesome. Jim Carey should have stopped working after this one. Really.
Yeah that's what I love about the version, the subs are also in yellow if I recall correctly, which helps them to stand out against any background without being too obtusive. The acting is also top notch, I haven't always been a fan of Depardieus other works but his portrayal of Cyrano is just amazing.
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I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
..... Eternal Sunshine...it's not exactly the same thing.
Romeo and Juliet subverts the love story - the characters cause misery and death for everyone around them and ultimately themselves by holding onto the true love myth.
No mate, that is the 'love story'. Has been for centuries. Not studied Chaucer and Arthurian myth yet?
Query, and I promise I'm not trying to be an ass here, I'm just asking because you sound like you've studied this stuff along the way:
Isn't what you quoted there, what you claim as what has been the 'love story' for centuries, exactly describe Eternal Sunshine?
Well, not really. Nobody dies. Not really set against an epic backdrop of right'n'wrong, unsolveable conflict or huge political / social upheaval which the protagonists try to hide from. It even has a happy ending, I mean the main two do essentially end up together. It's quite small, not very tragic at all, and the characters are more wont to pine over each other in a quiet and unassuming way rather than grab love by the throat and shake it until everyone dies.
Also, I know this isn't technical, and I do like the film, but it's just too weird & original to really class it a romance.
The above things are what have characterised romance stories for a very long time. The 'love story' is a slightly wider definition but is a very recent invention (mid 20th century, largely emerged from fairytales, or more specifically Disneyfied versions of Anderson and such), and pretty much only there to provide a sanitised or morally correct version of love for the kiddies, Good Christian Ethics, or sensible, practical types who feel discriminated against by all this raging obsession. Personally I think it's quite sad they've been so successful. See also: Valentines Day, & how buying a flower and dinner in step with all the other good little peons = romantic.
Seriously, if you want to see how real romantics behave, watch Cinema Paradiso.
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Don't fucking make me come in there...
Dr. Zhigavo
Yes, I wasn't actually thinking of Zhigavo. It's a bit worthy, and to be honest could have done with a lot of trimming on the edit room floor. Also, the original book not that great. Though if you do sit through the whole thing, the payoff is superb, but I think most people know the ending by now. Ironically, if you want a vast romantic epic, Lawrence of Arabia is a hundred times better from Lean, even though it isn't technically a love story. I was also refering to the big French stuff - Hugo does a good line in it and everyone likes him.
Yes, I wasn't actually thinking of Zhigavo. It's a bit worthy, and to be honest could have done with a lot of trimming on the edit room floor. Also, the original book not that great. Though if you do sit through the whole thing, the payoff is superb, but I think most people know the ending by now. Ironically, if you want a vast romantic epic, Lawrence of Arabia is a hundred times better from Lean, even though it isn't technically a love story. I was also refering to the big French stuff - Hugo does a good line in it and everyone likes him.
so if you weren't thinking of Zhigavo what were you thinking of? When I think of romantic Russian epic this is the first story that pops into mind.
Call me a dork but here are my 2 picks that i think of:
1. Lost in Translation. - I don't know why. I felt utterly entranced by this movie. It grabbed me and i sat there for like 30 minutes after it ended just wishing I had ever experienced something like that. It's about love, but also life. It's not for everyone.
2. Meet Joe Black. - Also not anther straight love story, but I really liked the connection between the 2 characters and the feeling of "new love" and life.
Of course, princess bride is a staple, but it's been mentioned already so i thought i'd mention some new ones.
Yes, I wasn't actually thinking of Zhigavo. It's a bit worthy, and to be honest could have done with a lot of trimming on the edit room floor. Also, the original book not that great. Though if you do sit through the whole thing, the payoff is superb, but I think most people know the ending by now. Ironically, if you want a vast romantic epic, Lawrence of Arabia is a hundred times better from Lean, even though it isn't technically a love story. I was also refering to the big French stuff - Hugo does a good line in it and everyone likes him.
so if you weren't thinking of Zhigavo what were you thinking of? When I think of romantic Russian epic this is the first story that pops into mind.
Books. Pushkin, Tolstoy, I suppose Chekhov but he's a grumpy cunt even for a Russian.
War and Peace, Anna Karenina, Eugene Onegin and so on.
Actually you can tell I wasn't thinking about Zhivago because I couldn't spell it, or even get the phonetics right. Oops.
Books. Pushkin, Tolstoy, I suppose Chekhov but he's a grumpy cunt even for a Russian.
War and Peace, Anna Karenina, Eugene Onegin and so on.
Actually you can tell I wasn't thinking about Zhivago because I couldn't spell it, or even get the phonetics right. Oops.
heh, me neither I quoted your mispelling. I'm no good with the classic Russian novel personally. The aforementioned and toss in the likes The Rainbow or Dickens and I can hardly make it through a chapter without falling asleep. 19th/early 20th century writing in general really gets me with the endless room descirptions and the lengthy trapping of this or that sect of dead society. Not my bag and I've never found them timeless in the Shakespearean sense.
did I put in too many 'e's? This topic needs easier spelling.
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Amelie. The movie's resolution is one of the most heart warming things ever. I love that movie.
And on some mainstreamity, Save The Last Dance and Love & Basketball always struck a chord with me.
For comedy, Down With Love is priceless. Probably the funniest romantic comedy ever.
Also, part musical.
On a similar note... you could count Moulin Rouge, but
Absolutely fucking gorgeous cinematography par excellence use of sound and motion
a fantastic musical score
Maggie Cheung (the second most gorgeous woman in the world)
Tony Leung (Chiu Wai, not the other, less-badass Tony Leung)
Chinese (which is always entertaining to listen to)
heartache
The problem will be finding it at your local Blockbuster, since Criterion holds the US DVD rights (and Blockbuster's Criteron discs are usually limited to staples like Seven Samurai, and Disney-induced releases like Chasing Amy). But if you can, get it.
I'm not kidding. The movie is a chick flick made for men.
One of the best parts:
Christian Slater meets Patricia Arquette and he takes her to some Kung Fu flicks and stuff before he finds out she was a hooker that his boss "bought" for him so he could have a good time for once. Slater falls in love with Arquette overnight and vows to free her from the life she is living.
Long story short, Slater kills her pimp and his bodyguard and returns home pissed off and drinking a soda. Arquette seems a little disturbed when she finds out he killed the pimp...she stammers a bit... "That's...that's.." Slater seems a little pissed and yells out how he was human garbage and such and is then interrupted by Arquette - "That's so...romantic." and they make-out.
The newer one just doesn't capture the story the way the A&E/BBC production did. And nobody makes a better brooding Mr. Darcy than Colin Firth. Sure it's 5 hours long, but worth every second and is a much better adaptation of the book.
Am I a little biased, oh sure, but just trust me on this one. ;-)
This is an unconvetional choice, but Barry Lyndon is amazing. It's my vote for Best MOVIE Ever, not just best Romance.
Amazing cinematography, incredibly realistic and clever . . . hard to beat.
The Cook the Thief His Wife Her Lover has some very impressive and romantic (and sexy) scenes, but it's more brutal and nasty than any other flick on this list.
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In my opinion the best John Grisham adaptation... and Claire Danes is stunning in it.
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all of the scenes where the 3 were leading the two pretty ladies to the fort were all fairly spectacular to me as well. Mann was successful in creating these 3 completely bad ass frontiersmen but also making them believeable.
And Mogwa is easily my favorite antagonist in all of moviedom. You knew why he did what he did and couldnt dislike him for it. The scene where he reaches his hand out to the white hair daughter before she leaps still gives my eyes a bad case of Niagra Falls.
dammit I'm watching this bastard for the 30th time tonight. Thanks for making my friday night a loser fellas.
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Yes. This movie is awesome. Jim Carey should have stopped working after this one. Really.
Glad that there are other fans of Cyrano and Mr. Depardieu's version. I was very pleased to find a good dvd of this.
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Well, not really. Nobody dies. Not really set against an epic backdrop of right'n'wrong, unsolveable conflict or huge political / social upheaval which the protagonists try to hide from. It even has a happy ending, I mean the main two do essentially end up together. It's quite small, not very tragic at all, and the characters are more wont to pine over each other in a quiet and unassuming way rather than grab love by the throat and shake it until everyone dies.
Also, I know this isn't technical, and I do like the film, but it's just too weird & original to really class it a romance.
The above things are what have characterised romance stories for a very long time. The 'love story' is a slightly wider definition but is a very recent invention (mid 20th century, largely emerged from fairytales, or more specifically Disneyfied versions of Anderson and such), and pretty much only there to provide a sanitised or morally correct version of love for the kiddies, Good Christian Ethics, or sensible, practical types who feel discriminated against by all this raging obsession. Personally I think it's quite sad they've been so successful. See also: Valentines Day, & how buying a flower and dinner in step with all the other good little peons = romantic.
Seriously, if you want to see how real romantics behave, watch Cinema Paradiso.
Don't fucking make me come in there...
Yes, I wasn't actually thinking of Zhigavo. It's a bit worthy, and to be honest could have done with a lot of trimming on the edit room floor. Also, the original book not that great. Though if you do sit through the whole thing, the payoff is superb, but I think most people know the ending by now. Ironically, if you want a vast romantic epic, Lawrence of Arabia is a hundred times better from Lean, even though it isn't technically a love story. I was also refering to the big French stuff - Hugo does a good line in it and everyone likes him.
so if you weren't thinking of Zhigavo what were you thinking of? When I think of romantic Russian epic this is the first story that pops into mind.
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1. Lost in Translation. - I don't know why. I felt utterly entranced by this movie. It grabbed me and i sat there for like 30 minutes after it ended just wishing I had ever experienced something like that. It's about love, but also life. It's not for everyone.
2. Meet Joe Black. - Also not anther straight love story, but I really liked the connection between the 2 characters and the feeling of "new love" and life.
Of course, princess bride is a staple, but it's been mentioned already so i thought i'd mention some new ones.
"Oh what a day, what a LOVELY DAY!"
Books. Pushkin, Tolstoy, I suppose Chekhov but he's a grumpy cunt even for a Russian.
War and Peace, Anna Karenina, Eugene Onegin and so on.
Actually you can tell I wasn't thinking about Zhivago because I couldn't spell it, or even get the phonetics right. Oops.
heh, me neither I quoted your mispelling. I'm no good with the classic Russian novel personally. The aforementioned and toss in the likes The Rainbow or Dickens and I can hardly make it through a chapter without falling asleep. 19th/early 20th century writing in general really gets me with the endless room descirptions and the lengthy trapping of this or that sect of dead society. Not my bag and I've never found them timeless in the Shakespearean sense.
did I put in too many 'e's? This topic needs easier spelling.
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And on some mainstreamity, Save The Last Dance and Love & Basketball always struck a chord with me.
For comedy, Down With Love is priceless. Probably the funniest romantic comedy ever.
Also, part musical.
On a similar note... you could count Moulin Rouge, but
It has:
Absolutely fucking gorgeous cinematography
par excellence use of sound and motion
a fantastic musical score
Maggie Cheung (the second most gorgeous woman in the world)
Tony Leung (Chiu Wai, not the other, less-badass Tony Leung)
Chinese (which is always entertaining to listen to)
heartache
The problem will be finding it at your local Blockbuster, since Criterion holds the US DVD rights (and Blockbuster's Criteron discs are usually limited to staples like Seven Samurai, and Disney-induced releases like Chasing Amy). But if you can, get it.
Fourth'd or fifth'd or whatever it's at now.
Also, A Lot Like Love is one I personally like.
I'm not kidding. The movie is a chick flick made for men.
One of the best parts:
Long story short, Slater kills her pimp and his bodyguard and returns home pissed off and drinking a soda. Arquette seems a little disturbed when she finds out he killed the pimp...she stammers a bit... "That's...that's.." Slater seems a little pissed and yells out how he was human garbage and such and is then interrupted by Arquette - "That's so...romantic." and they make-out.
Great movie.
But for heaven's sake if you're going to watch the movie watch this one:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112130/
with Colin Firth
and NOT this one: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414387/
The newer one just doesn't capture the story the way the A&E/BBC production did. And nobody makes a better brooding Mr. Darcy than Colin Firth. Sure it's 5 hours long, but worth every second and is a much better adaptation of the book.
Am I a little biased, oh sure, but just trust me on this one. ;-)
Amazing cinematography, incredibly realistic and clever . . . hard to beat.
The Cook the Thief His Wife Her Lover has some very impressive and romantic (and sexy) scenes, but it's more brutal and nasty than any other flick on this list.
In my opinion the best John Grisham adaptation... and Claire Danes is stunning in it.
Still a damn fine movie.
moulin rouge is good but i'm baised cos said scots bloke is in my family....
i would also suggest the last kiss...its a little more "real" but its romantic in the "this is how a releationship works"..