Yes, I know. "Spoiled bitch... etc." isn't a crime. You want to punish her because of your own pathetic insecurities about class.
Two options, either
She is to be considered as an example of standard procedure in this circumstance - in which case the whole slap on the wrist for a DUI thing is the thing we should be pissed at.
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She is to be considered an example of how the rich and famous can get off with far more than anyone else - which is enough to be pissed about anyway, this isn't class insecurity anymore than you can claim that blacks are just insecure about their race. Insecurity because someone is unreasonably better off than you is perfectly justifiable
What I am wondering is how come she come to accept jail time of 32 or 45 days before the first jailing but what we saw in the second jailing her saying its not fair. I believe they thought or had the influence that she will get out early and Paris was ready for the few days she had to stay. Either way its very confusing once you think how this case is all wierd on each ends of the party, which is a sign of influences.
I am not rejoicing about Paris but this just showed how bad our legal, political and media is so messed up.
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She is to be considered as an example of standard procedure in this circumstance - in which case the whole slap on the wrist for a DUI thing is the thing we should be pissed at.
What if you happen to think that house arrest is a perfectly reasonable punishment for a DUI?
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
She is to be considered as an example of standard procedure in this circumstance - in which case the whole slap on the wrist for a DUI thing is the thing we should be pissed at.
What if you happen to think that house arrest is a perfectly reasonable punishment for a DUI?
Well then you're wrong, but you should quit your bitchin' anyway.
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She is to be considered as an example of standard procedure in this circumstance - in which case the whole slap on the wrist for a DUI thing is the thing we should be pissed at.
What if you happen to think that house arrest is a perfectly reasonable punishment for a DUI?
Well, the crime wasn't the DUI, it was the driving without a license after having it suspended after a DUI.
She is to be considered as an example of standard procedure in this circumstance - in which case the whole slap on the wrist for a DUI thing is the thing we should be pissed at.
What if you happen to think that house arrest is a perfectly reasonable punishment for a DUI?
Well, the crime wasn't the DUI, it was the driving without a license after having it suspended after a DUI.
Which broke the terms of her parole, the crime she was originally charged with.
She is to be considered as an example of standard procedure in this circumstance - in which case the whole slap on the wrist for a DUI thing is the thing we should be pissed at.
What if you happen to think that house arrest is a perfectly reasonable punishment for a DUI?
Well, the crime wasn't the DUI, it was the driving without a license after having it suspended after a DUI.
So we have recklass endangerment from the DUI, persumably being uninsurable as well since you lack the license you need for that, and pissing on a judge - George Michael got more community service than Paris got 'house arrest' for being asleep in a parked car whilst apparently on prescription meds. I'm suprised the sentance doesn't get altered by these things as well - since she clearly isn't as sorry as she made out to be if she tried to get out of her punishment. Does a DUI/driving uninsured/unlicensed really have that little a punishment?
"It's not right!" shouted Hilton, who violated her probation in a reckless driving case. "Mom!" she cried out to her mother."
"Seconds later, the judge announced his decision: "The defendant is remanded to county jail to serve the remainder of her 45-day sentence. This order is forthwith."
"It's not right!" shouted Hilton, who violated her probation in a reckless driving case. "Mom!" she cried out to her mother."
"Seconds later, the judge announced his decision: "The defendant is remanded to county jail to serve the remainder of her 45-day sentence. This order is forthwith."
The police cruiser used to transport hotel heiress Paris Hilton back to LA County Jail has crashed into a water tower. The driver, Deputy Trudy Wiegel, was distracted when Hilton repeatedly offered her sexual favors in exchange for her freedom, mistaking the officer for a man.
"She promised to do things I've never even heard of!" exclaimed Wiegel. "Even though I don't have a penis, it was still pretty tempting."
The water tower may have sustained significant structural damage. "It's highly possible that the tower will collapse in exactly 24 hours," cautioned water tower foundation specialist, Natalie Michaels.
Ya know, it's been said before, but it bears saying again.
What on earth does she DO? I mean Lohan is at least an "actress" as are the Olsen Twins and every other teen party girl, but Paris Hilton... doesn't... do.. anything at all. Literally. If you remove her from our history, the only thing that doesn't exist is "The Simple Life" and the porn video.
The police cruiser used to transport hotel heiress Paris Hilton back to LA County Jail has crashed into a water tower. The driver, Deputy Trudy Wiegel, was distracted when Hilton repeatedly offered her sexual favors in exchange for her freedom, mistaking the officer for a man.
"She promised to do things I've never even heard of!" exclaimed Wiegel. "Even though I don't have a penis, it was still pretty tempting."
The water tower may have sustained significant structural damage. "It's highly possible that the tower will collapse in exactly 24 hours," cautioned water tower foundation specialist, Natalie Michaels.
Oh, how I wish that wasn't Drudge so I could believe it.
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It's not really the fact that it's Paris Hilton that got this special treatment, it's more that there was special treatment given. This could have been any celebrity and I think people would still be just as pissed off about it because it's clearly a violation of the fundamental principles of equal protection and treatment under the law. When was the last time you heard of ANYONE just getting out jail free "because it was just too much". Hell, I think Micheal Jackson even sat in jail for a while and he'd probably be in just as much "danger" as Paris would have been.
And yes, I think a lot of us would like to see her get a lesson taught to her, whether for petty reasons or not. She does and says whatever she wants and the public at large lets her do it because she's famous and she knows it, so she flaunts it and for that fuck her. At least Robert Downey Jr. had the deceny to slink off to rehab and not make a big deal out of it.
We forgive things from artists becasue they're talented. it's not fair but it's true. Paris just tries to pull crap like she's some uber talented goddess when she's good at nothing but making a spectacle of herself. that's what really pisses people off about her.
That's where people are being unreasonable. This whole "RULE OF LAW" rallying cry is stupid. Do you know how many average people in her situation get out of this kind of thing all the time? DUIs and subsequent parole violations are rampant and some of the most poorly enforced laws in existence. Sure, her money makes it easy for her. So does knowing the judge, or being able to cry on cue, or knowing a good lawyer, or getting off on technicalities, or a whole slew of toher things that people use to get out of the criminal justice system all the time. What's unfair is the extreme over-compensation people want to loft onto her, such that anything but the entire book being thrown at her will be perceived as some validation of the rich and stupid and pretty over the hard-working rest-of-us, when in actuality it would probably be fairly normal for this type of criminal situation.
And when one of those things happen on national TV, people will bitch about it too. Funny how all the famous people seem to only take the money route, huh.
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This talk of being a whore has creepy misogynistic overtones.
It's not really the fact that it's Paris Hilton that got this special treatment, it's more that there was special treatment given. This could have been any celebrity and I think people would still be just as pissed off about it because it's clearly a violation of the fundamental principles of equal protection and treatment under the law. When was the last time you heard of ANYONE just getting out jail free "because it was just too much". Hell, I think Micheal Jackson even sat in jail for a while and he'd probably be in just as much "danger" as Paris would have been.
And yes, I think a lot of us would like to see her get a lesson taught to her, whether for petty reasons or not. She does and says whatever she wants and the public at large lets her do it because she's famous and she knows it, so she flaunts it and for that fuck her. At least Robert Downey Jr. had the deceny to slink off to rehab and not make a big deal out of it.
Except you're only looking at one side of this and ignoring the obvious and evident other side.
I just talked to my mother-in-law, a 30-year veteran parole officer. She said that although it can vary from one jurisdiction to the next, in most counties it is very unlikely that someone with Paris Hilton's offenses would be facing any jail time whatsoever.
Everyone keeps acting like she's trying to get "special treament because she's _____" but they are forgetting that everyone in her situation, from the richest and most famous to the poorest and most anonymous, is trying to get special treatment for ______, and in the cases of DUIs and parole violation for DUI parole, they usually get it.
To me, the actual "violation of the fundamental principles of equal protection and treament under the law" is this absurd notion that she "needs to be taught a lesson" any more than any other lawbreaker does. Upon what authority do you determine that she is in any particular need of being taught a lesson?
When you throw out all the bullshit sexist, mysoginist, bigoted class warfare - when you stop fucking talking about how she's a blonde or a daddy's little girl or a spoiled rich brat - things that have nothing at all to do with her crimes and which are rather ignorant and pop-intellectualist assumptions in the first place, then you're left with someone who committed infractions that are normally handled with slap on the wrist, if that, and which frequently reduce people to tears and which people frequently worm their way out of; all things that you are unfairly criticizing her for as if she's some freak show.
tl;dr - get over your immature insecurities about feeling superior to someone. It's clouding your sense of actual fair play.
This talk of being a whore has creepy misogynistic overtones.
Beat'd, yes, thank you. Most of what is expressed about her in this regard is putrid ignorant hate. Two posts already on this page about her trading sex favors. Respect women much?
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Interesting Yar, I figured as much. An argument could be made that her fame is being used as a warning to others who may not realize this. I'm not entirely comfortable with using someone as an example. But the sentence is within the law, and I can't say I blame the judge for being frustrated. His thinking may be that if one person thinks again about driving with a suspended license because of Paris good has been accomplished.
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"Give a man a fire, he's warm for the night. Set a man on fire he's warm for the rest of his life."
-Terry Pratchett
We get it she's in jail, do we need to humiliate her too? For the love of god people she's still a person, and as easy as it is to say you'd be tough, it's got to be pretty scary
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"Give a man a fire, he's warm for the night. Set a man on fire he's warm for the rest of his life."
-Terry Pratchett
We get it she's in jail, do we need to humiliate her too? For the love of god people she's still a person, and as easy as it is to say you'd be tough, it's got to be pretty scary
Right. I think her reaction in that picture is fairly normal. I don't get what is so awesome or funny about it. Honestly, I don't get it.
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We get it she's in jail, do we need to humiliate her too? For the love of god people she's still a person, and as easy as it is to say you'd be tough, it's got to be pretty scary
Yeah, it must be awful for a little girl to be locked up like that in such an awful place, taken away from her mommy...
Oh, wait, she's a pampered 26-year-old drunk-driving parole offender that tried to use her daddy's wealth to get out of the same justice system we're all subject to? Well shit.
I'd wager that most of us have never driven under the influence (hopefully), and that most of us have definitely not violated any parole that we have had. I have no sympathy for someone who is punished for violating the law.
Shes rich, spoiled, I hated her already, she thought she could get out of her punishment and almost did, and then threw a tantrum when she was put in her place.
You want to rob that satisfaction from me? Have fun trying!
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We get it she's in jail, do we need to humiliate her too? For the love of god people she's still a person, and as easy as it is to say you'd be tough, it's got to be pretty scary
Yeah, it must be awful for a little girl to be locked up like that in such an awful place, taken away from her mommy...
Oh, wait, she's a pampered 26-year-old drunk-driving parole offender that tried to use her daddy's wealth to get out of the same justice system we're all subject to? Well shit.
Look it's not about satisfaction she's behind bars. I'm glad she is getting punished, but the blood lust here is scary. Why not just put her in the stocks so we can throw rotten fruit at her. I think it's wrong that we're actively enjoying seeing someone in misery.
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"Give a man a fire, he's warm for the night. Set a man on fire he's warm for the rest of his life."
-Terry Pratchett
We get it she's in jail, do we need to humiliate her too? For the love of god people she's still a person, and as easy as it is to say you'd be tough, it's got to be pretty scary
Yeah, it must be awful for a little girl to be locked up like that in such an awful place, taken away from her mommy...
Oh, wait, she's a pampered 26-year-old drunk-driving parole offender that tried to use her daddy's wealth to get out of the same justice system we're all subject to? Well shit.
Look it's not about satisfaction she's behind bars. I'm glad she is getting punished, but the blood lust here is scary. Why not just put her in the stocks so we can throw rotten fruit at her. I think it's wrong that we're actively enjoying seeing someone in misery.
I can't help but notice how angry people were on these same boards days ago, and now there seems little jubilation from the same people to see Hilton go to jail (I'd just like to say HELL YEAH - simply because I hate her). Now there seems to be somewhat of a "This shouldn't have happened, look at the statistics" discussion going on. Speaking ow chih..
I'd like to see CNN repoll their viewers - on a poll conducted earlier this week, about 25,000 people (96% of the voters) said it was an injustice to see Hilton on house arrest. Now that she is actually behind bars again, do the votes remain the same, or do her cries and tears change peoples' emotions?
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She is to be considered as an example of standard procedure in this circumstance - in which case the whole slap on the wrist for a DUI thing is the thing we should be pissed at.
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She is to be considered an example of how the rich and famous can get off with far more than anyone else - which is enough to be pissed about anyway, this isn't class insecurity anymore than you can claim that blacks are just insecure about their race. Insecurity because someone is unreasonably better off than you is perfectly justifiable
Pretty sure that the meaning of the word Proletariat is 'Someone who doesn't know what proletariat means'...Traitor
I am not rejoicing about Paris but this just showed how bad our legal, political and media is so messed up.
― Dr. Seuss, Oh, the Places You'll Go!
What if you happen to think that house arrest is a perfectly reasonable punishment for a DUI?
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Well then you're wrong, but you should quit your bitchin' anyway.
Well, the crime wasn't the DUI, it was the driving without a license after having it suspended after a DUI.
Which broke the terms of her parole, the crime she was originally charged with.
So we have recklass endangerment from the DUI, persumably being uninsurable as well since you lack the license you need for that, and pissing on a judge - George Michael got more community service than Paris got 'house arrest' for being asleep in a parked car whilst apparently on prescription meds. I'm suprised the sentance doesn't get altered by these things as well - since she clearly isn't as sorry as she made out to be if she tried to get out of her punishment. Does a DUI/driving uninsured/unlicensed really have that little a punishment?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070608/ap_on_en_tv/paris_hilton
Some of my favorite parts.
"It's not right!" shouted Hilton, who violated her probation in a reckless driving case. "Mom!" she cried out to her mother."
"Seconds later, the judge announced his decision: "The defendant is remanded to county jail to serve the remainder of her 45-day sentence. This order is forthwith."
Hilton screamed. "
Wow. Thank you for updating us.
What on earth does she DO? I mean Lohan is at least an "actress" as are the Olsen Twins and every other teen party girl, but Paris Hilton... doesn't... do.. anything at all. Literally. If you remove her from our history, the only thing that doesn't exist is "The Simple Life" and the porn video.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I enjoyed this one.
Yes
And yes, I think a lot of us would like to see her get a lesson taught to her, whether for petty reasons or not. She does and says whatever she wants and the public at large lets her do it because she's famous and she knows it, so she flaunts it and for that fuck her. At least Robert Downey Jr. had the deceny to slink off to rehab and not make a big deal out of it.
And when one of those things happen on national TV, people will bitch about it too. Funny how all the famous people seem to only take the money route, huh.
I just talked to my mother-in-law, a 30-year veteran parole officer. She said that although it can vary from one jurisdiction to the next, in most counties it is very unlikely that someone with Paris Hilton's offenses would be facing any jail time whatsoever.
Everyone keeps acting like she's trying to get "special treament because she's _____" but they are forgetting that everyone in her situation, from the richest and most famous to the poorest and most anonymous, is trying to get special treatment for ______, and in the cases of DUIs and parole violation for DUI parole, they usually get it.
To me, the actual "violation of the fundamental principles of equal protection and treament under the law" is this absurd notion that she "needs to be taught a lesson" any more than any other lawbreaker does. Upon what authority do you determine that she is in any particular need of being taught a lesson?
When you throw out all the bullshit sexist, mysoginist, bigoted class warfare - when you stop fucking talking about how she's a blonde or a daddy's little girl or a spoiled rich brat - things that have nothing at all to do with her crimes and which are rather ignorant and pop-intellectualist assumptions in the first place, then you're left with someone who committed infractions that are normally handled with slap on the wrist, if that, and which frequently reduce people to tears and which people frequently worm their way out of; all things that you are unfairly criticizing her for as if she's some freak show.
tl;dr - get over your immature insecurities about feeling superior to someone. It's clouding your sense of actual fair play.
Beat'd, yes, thank you. Most of what is expressed about her in this regard is putrid ignorant hate. Two posts already on this page about her trading sex favors. Respect women much?
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-Terry Pratchett
We get it she's in jail, do we need to humiliate her too? For the love of god people she's still a person, and as easy as it is to say you'd be tough, it's got to be pretty scary
-Terry Pratchett
See how she likes it for once.
What the fuck does that even mean?
Have you ever been in jail? Who has Paris Hilton humiliated? I can't make sense of what you just wrote.
Yeah, it must be awful for a little girl to be locked up like that in such an awful place, taken away from her mommy...
Oh, wait, she's a pampered 26-year-old drunk-driving parole offender that tried to use her daddy's wealth to get out of the same justice system we're all subject to? Well shit.
Shes rich, spoiled, I hated her already, she thought she could get out of her punishment and almost did, and then threw a tantrum when she was put in her place.
You want to rob that satisfaction from me? Have fun trying!
Look it's not about satisfaction she's behind bars. I'm glad she is getting punished, but the blood lust here is scary. Why not just put her in the stocks so we can throw rotten fruit at her. I think it's wrong that we're actively enjoying seeing someone in misery.
-Terry Pratchett
?????
Because she's in jail already.
Cool! :^:
I don't care.
I'd like to see CNN repoll their viewers - on a poll conducted earlier this week, about 25,000 people (96% of the voters) said it was an injustice to see Hilton on house arrest. Now that she is actually behind bars again, do the votes remain the same, or do her cries and tears change peoples' emotions?