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    PiRaTe!!!PiRaTe!!! Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    First look at the new Enterprise:

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Looking good!

    [nerd]But it looks like they're just finishing building it. And this is a Kirk movie. And that's a problem, because Kirk was the third captain of the Enterprise. He didn't get the Enterprise when it was brand new, much less when it was still under construction.[/nerd]

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Richy wrote: »
    Looking good!

    [nerd]But it looks like they're just finishing building it. And this is a Kirk movie. And that's a problem, because Kirk was the third captain of the Enterprise. He didn't get the Enterprise when it was brand new, much less when it was still under construction.[/nerd]

    [giantnerd]could be that Captains April and Morgan really wore out the ship, requiring it to be retrofitted/maintained by the time Kirk became captain[/giantnerd]

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    Merlinus AmbrosiusMerlinus Ambrosius Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Wait, Captain Morgan? The Rum? Or the Captain of the Bozeman? I think you meant Captain Pike....

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    [giantnerd]could be that Captains April and Morgan really wore out the ship, requiring it to be retrofitted/maintained by the time Kirk became captain[/giantnerd]
    [supernerd]Who's captain Morgan? The first two captains were Robert April and Christopher Pike.[/supernerd]

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    desperaterobotsdesperaterobots perth, ausRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Richy wrote: »
    [giantnerd]could be that Captains April and Morgan really wore out the ship, requiring it to be retrofitted/maintained by the time Kirk became captain[/giantnerd]
    [supernerd]Who's captain Morgan? The first two captains were Robert April and Christopher Pike.[/supernerd]

    hmm. i was thinking Robert April in my head and ended up thinking about April Morgan.

    oops :P

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    LibrarianThorneLibrarianThorne Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Oh my God.

    Oh my God.

    I want Christmas to come now, dammit.

    IRT the current discussion: didn't the Enterprise undergo a major refit before Kirk took the chair from Pike? I may have read that in a novel so thusly it's non-canon, but I seem to recall that the original Enterprise had at least two refits (one before the main series started, one for the movies).

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    Sword_of_LightSword_of_Light Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I think they're staying pretty cannon, else all the trekkies would leave their parents basements in one mass horde and descend, whining, upon those who would befoul Trek.

    Christopher Pike is, according to cast lists, a character in the movie, so they're sticking to the hallowed rites layed down by St. Gene.

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    looks like they kept the ship pretty faithful to TOS. judging by what we can see, I think it'll look pretty similar to what was on the TV, just, not held up by strings.

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    Andrew_JayAndrew_Jay Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Jasoco wrote: »
    I put off my own birth, just so my parents could go to see Star Trek: The Motion Picture on opening day. My own birth! I did this for my parents. And they repaid me by not naming me after a character in the series.
    Wow. I thought it was bad when my parents waited until the end of an episode of Miami Vice before getting themselves down to the hospital.

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    shutzshutz Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I really like the look of the ship. It takes the TOS design, and makes it seem solid, without trying to emulate the TMP redesign.

    Was it confirmed in any way that Kirk would be the captain of the Enterprise? We know that Spock served with Pike, but if we only consider canon, we only know that Kirk didn't serve under Pike. Also, even though it was in Roddenberry's notes, I don't think Captain April was ever mentioned in something that was canon. So we might be getting a story where Pike is supposed to take command, and Kirk & Friends "borrow" the unfinished Enterprise to complete their mission.

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    VoodooVVoodooV Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    hehe, aintitcool has having a nerd bitchfest over the implication from the youtube teaser trailer (very low quality so don't get too excited) that the enterprise was built on Earth

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    deowolfdeowolf is allowed to do that. Traffic.Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    As opposed to above earth?

    And low quality or not, trailer tease away, sir.

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    VoodooVVoodooV Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    VoodooV wrote: »
    hehe, aintitcool has having a nerd bitchfest over the implication from the youtube teaser trailer (very low quality so don't get too excited) that the enterprise was built on Earth
    There's nothing in canon material about where the Enterprise was built, and IIRC in TMP the refit was done on Earth, so I don't see what they're bitching about.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Richy wrote: »
    VoodooV wrote: »
    hehe, aintitcool has having a nerd bitchfest over the implication from the youtube teaser trailer (very low quality so don't get too excited) that the enterprise was built on Earth
    There's nothing in canon material about where the Enterprise was built, and IIRC in TMP the refit was done on Earth, so I don't see what they're bitching about.

    Because apparently some fools think that everything has to be built on Mars or something.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    VoodooV wrote: »
    Who's the voice that says "space, the final frontier"?

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    VoodooV wrote: »
    hehe, aintitcool has having a nerd bitchfest over the implication from the youtube teaser trailer (very low quality so don't get too excited) that the enterprise was built on Earth
    There's nothing in canon material about where the Enterprise was built, and IIRC in TMP the refit was done on Earth, so I don't see what they're bitching about.

    Because apparently some fools think that everything has to be built on Mars or something.
    Well Utopia Planitia ship yards are pretty big in TNG/DS9, IIRC that's where the Enterprise-D and the Defiant were built. But they were never mentioned in TOS, they might not even have existed back then.

    God I've got so much nerd on me I'm going to need a shower.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Richy wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    VoodooV wrote: »
    hehe, aintitcool has having a nerd bitchfest over the implication from the youtube teaser trailer (very low quality so don't get too excited) that the enterprise was built on Earth
    There's nothing in canon material about where the Enterprise was built, and IIRC in TMP the refit was done on Earth, so I don't see what they're bitching about.

    Because apparently some fools think that everything has to be built on Mars or something.
    Well Utopia Planitia ship yards are pretty big in TNG/DS9, IIRC that's where the Enterprise-D and the Defiant were built. But they were never mentioned in TOS, they might not even have existed back then.

    God I've got so much nerd on me I'm going to need a shower.

    I knew it was Utopia Planitia but I didn't know how to spell the second part so I just said 'Mars' :P

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    I knew it was Utopia Planitia but I didn't know how to spell the second part so I just said 'Mars' :P
    I didn't know how to spell the second part either, so I Googled it :P

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Memory alpha says it was built in San Fran.
    The vessel registered NCC-1701, which was constructed in San Francisco and launched in 2245, was christened the Enterprise. Larry Marvick was one of the designers of the Enterprise. (TOS: "Tomorrow is Yesterday", "Is There in Truth No Beauty?")

    So, those nerds are WRONG. http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(NCC-1701)

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    DredZedDredZed Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    The TMP refit was done in orbit of Earth, not on the surface. That is also where it was presumed to have been constructed in the first place.

    And as far as any information we have from anything shown on screen goes, all the ships were constructed in space, all the way back (chronologically) to the NX-01 from ENT.

    I don't mind the idea of it being built on the surface too much, but it does seem to partly contradict what we've seen so far of starship construction in the rest of Trek.

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    VoodooVVoodooV Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Richy wrote: »
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    Who's the voice that says "space, the final frontier"?

    I presume Nimoy

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    PiRaTe!!!PiRaTe!!! Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Richy wrote: »
    VoodooV wrote: »
    Who's the voice that says "space, the final frontier"?

    I think it's Leonard Nemoy



    *edit...wow my net is slow, had this ready to post ten minutes ago lol

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Well yeah, when I said "on Earth", I meant in orbit of Earth, as opposed to another planet (specifically Mars). Not actually on the surface, as opposed to in orbit.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Richy wrote: »
    Well yeah, when I said "on Earth", I meant in orbit of Earth, as opposed to another planet (specifically Mars). Not actually on the surface, as opposed to in orbit.

    I mean the AICN nerds, not you.

    Nerd. :D

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    DredZed wrote: »
    The TMP refit was done in orbit of Earth, not on the surface. That is also where it was presumed to have been constructed in the first place.

    And as far as any information we have from anything shown on screen goes, all the ships were constructed in space, all the way back (chronologically) to the NX-01 from ENT.

    I don't mind the idea of it being built on the surface too much, but it does seem to partly contradict what we've seen so far of starship construction in the rest of Trek.
    According to The Making of Star Trek, the Enterprise was built on Earth but assembled in space.

    I don't know how canonical that is but it makes sense to build the parts on a planet then put them together in space like a cosmic LEGO set.

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    HyperAquaBlastHyperAquaBlast Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Of course that was Nimoy in the teaser.

    So is this a reboot or a prequel?

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    deowolfdeowolf is allowed to do that. Traffic.Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    VoodooV wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    VoodooV wrote: »
    Who's the voice that says "space, the final frontier"?

    I presume Nimoy

    Jesus, he sounds terrible, huh? Even through the poor quality, it looked pretty cool.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    deowolf wrote: »
    VoodooV wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    VoodooV wrote: »
    Who's the voice that says "space, the final frontier"?

    I presume Nimoy

    Jesus, he sounds terrible, huh? Even through the poor quality, it looked pretty cool.

    I thought the voice was from the end of Wrath of Khan....

    It's not.

    But it does sound like Spock did just before 'dying'.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Of course that was Nimoy in the teaser.

    So is this a reboot or a prequel?
    A prequel.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    I still don't know how I'm gonna look at Zachary Quinto and see Spock not Mr. "Imma eat your brain" Sylar.

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    RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    I still don't know how I'm gonna look at Zachary Quinto and see Spock not Mr. "Imma eat your brain" Sylar.

    The trailer actually got me really excited about this. Based on the casting, I was nervous, but it looks like this has some weight/seriousness to it.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    I still don't know how I'm gonna look at Zachary Quinto and see Spock not Mr. "Imma eat your brain" Sylar.

    The trailer actually got me really excited about this. Based on the casting, I was nervous, but it looks like this has some weight/seriousness to it.

    I don't think it will be too much of a problem, but I know the minute he stares at someone I'll expect their head to slice open. :lol:

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    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2008
    No, you see.


    Spock's Brain actually makes sense now.

    Sylar took it out.

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    DredZed wrote: »
    The TMP refit was done in orbit of Earth, not on the surface. That is also where it was presumed to have been constructed in the first place.

    And as far as any information we have from anything shown on screen goes, all the ships were constructed in space, all the way back (chronologically) to the NX-01 from ENT.

    I don't mind the idea of it being built on the surface too much, but it does seem to partly contradict what we've seen so far of starship construction in the rest of Trek.
    According to The Making of Star Trek, the Enterprise was built on Earth but assembled in space.
    I don't know how canonical that is but it makes sense to build the parts on a planet then put them together in space like a cosmic LEGO set.
    I can swear I saw a scene somewhere in TNG where you see Galaxy Class parts stored on mars.

    Edit: aha.

    Utopia_Planitia.jpg

    From "Parallels", apparently.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Kagera wrote: »
    DredZed wrote: »
    The TMP refit was done in orbit of Earth, not on the surface. That is also where it was presumed to have been constructed in the first place.

    And as far as any information we have from anything shown on screen goes, all the ships were constructed in space, all the way back (chronologically) to the NX-01 from ENT.

    I don't mind the idea of it being built on the surface too much, but it does seem to partly contradict what we've seen so far of starship construction in the rest of Trek.
    According to The Making of Star Trek, the Enterprise was built on Earth but assembled in space.
    I don't know how canonical that is but it makes sense to build the parts on a planet then put them together in space like a cosmic LEGO set.
    I can swear I saw a scene somewhere in TNG where you see Galaxy Class parts stored on mars.

    You might be referring to this episode.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_the_Beholder_(TNG_episode)

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    chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Plot overview:
    "Lost" creators-writers-producers J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk have teamed to deliver this eleventh film in the four-decades old franchise which essentially serves as a restart (ala "Batman Begins," "Casino Royale") to the franchise. Plot details have yet to be confirmed but the general word is that a group of rogue time-travelling Romulans set out to kill a young James T. Kirk before he becomes Captain. An elderly Spock (Nimoy) sets out in pursuit and must enlist the help of his younger self (Quinto) to stop them.

    Time travel? Has Entertprise taught us nothing? No thanks.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited January 2008
    Plot overview:
    "Lost" creators-writers-producers J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk have teamed to deliver this eleventh film in the four-decades old franchise which essentially serves as a restart (ala "Batman Begins," "Casino Royale") to the franchise. Plot details have yet to be confirmed but the general word is that a group of rogue time-travelling Romulans set out to kill a young James T. Kirk before he becomes Captain. An elderly Spock (Nimoy) sets out in pursuit and must enlist the help of his younger self (Quinto) to stop them.

    Time travel? Has Entertprise taught us nothing? No thanks.

    This is TOS though when time travel was awesome like the City on the Edge of Forever.

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