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Auto Assault Scrapped

see317see317 Registered User regular
edited July 2007 in MMO Extravaganza
So, looks like the numbers finally hit home to NCsoft, and they're shutting down the servers.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/1314/gameID/149
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Sucks to see a passable non sword&sorcery game get put down, as it diminishes the likely hood of a good one coming out someday. But I don't think anyone will be suprised by this.

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Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.

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  • CorvusCorvus Caw? VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Given their subscriber numbers, I'm surprised it took this long to happen.

  • PbPb Registered User
    edited July 2007
    see317 wrote: »
    Sucks to see a passable non sword&sorcery game get put down, as it diminishes the likely hood of a good one coming out someday. But I don't think anyone will be suprised by this.

    I think we're working with different definitions of that word here.

  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Pb wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    Sucks to see a passable non sword&sorcery game get put down, as it diminishes the likely hood of a good one coming out someday. But I don't think anyone will be suprised by this.

    I think we're working with different definitions of that word here.
    I didn't say good. I said passable.

    During the (admittedly short) time I played it, I didn't come across anything that made me want to say "screw this" and uninstall.
    Conversly, I hit that point at about 30 minutes for SWG.

    Ringo wrote: »
    Well except what see317 said. That guy's always wrong.
  • HarshLanguageHarshLanguage Registered User
    edited July 2007
    Hmm, guess I might not install that free copy of the game after all. ;-)

    Shutting down of any MMO by a major company is big news. But that AA survived as long as it did with the low numbers it had is testament to how much it takes before an MMO gets canned. This is, what, the 5th "major" MMO ever to be shut down after launch? Jumpgate, Motor City, Earth and Beyond, and AC2 are the other ones that come to mind. Considering how many MMOs there are, that's a surprisingly small number.

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  • weenusweenus Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Auto Assault wasn't that bad, it just wasn't that good. Nothing about the game really made me feel like it was worth paying for, at any time.

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action Still AwesomeRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Hmm, guess I might not install that free copy of the game after all. ;-)

    Shutting down of any MMO by a major company is big news. But that AA survived as long as it did with the low numbers it had is testament to how much it takes before an MMO gets canned. This is, what, the 5th "major" MMO ever to be shut down after launch? Jumpgate, Motor City, Earth and Beyond, and AC2 are the other ones that come to mind. Considering how many MMOs there are, that's a surprisingly small number.

    It's not really that small when you consider how many never even get launched.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Hmm, guess I might not install that free copy of the game after all. ;-)

    Shutting down of any MMO by a major company is big news. But that AA survived as long as it did with the low numbers it had is testament to how much it takes before an MMO gets canned. This is, what, the 5th "major" MMO ever to be shut down after launch? Jumpgate, Motor City, Earth and Beyond, and AC2 are the other ones that come to mind. Considering how many MMOs there are, that's a surprisingly small number.

    Now that AA is being shut down, NetDevil has the great honor of being the first MMO dev team that I can think of that's had two of their games shut down.

    Then again, Jumpgate's coming back anyway, so I'm not sure what I can say about it.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS
    edited July 2007
    I played it and enjoyed it for a good month.

    It's a shame, but if it means they're putting resources to something else, then good. AA had so much wasted potential.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    korodullin wrote: »
    Hmm, guess I might not install that free copy of the game after all. ;-)

    Shutting down of any MMO by a major company is big news. But that AA survived as long as it did with the low numbers it had is testament to how much it takes before an MMO gets canned. This is, what, the 5th "major" MMO ever to be shut down after launch? Jumpgate, Motor City, Earth and Beyond, and AC2 are the other ones that come to mind. Considering how many MMOs there are, that's a surprisingly small number.

    Now that AA is being shut down, NetDevil has the great honor of being the first MMO dev team that I can think of that's had two of their games shut down.

    Then again, Jumpgate's coming back anyway, so I'm not sure what I can say about it.


    EA canned Motor City and E&B. But my understanding there is that the games weren't doing badly at all, EA had just got them in their company acquisitions and didn't feel like running any MMOs, so they shut them down.

    Which has about the same effect of killing their reputation in MMOs.


    Anyways, I totally blame the devs on this one. I heard a pre-launch interview with them on w00t radio, and it was all like "loot loot loot loot, goddamn do we love us some loot". And I was thinking, goddammit, this is a car combat game, where you drive fast, blow shit up, and get powerups by driving over them. You do not want to add grinds to this genre.

    If this squashes future attempts at trying bring in tired, unneccesary MMO "features" to new genres, then it's for the best.

  • s3rial ones3rial one Registered User
    edited July 2007
    I was an absolute fanatic about Jumpgate.

    So when Auto Assault was announced, I was cautiously optimistic.

    What a disappointment.

    One of the great things about Jumpgate was its physics system; it wasn't arcadey in the slightest. It really separated the good pilots from the people with good reflexes. Being able to think ahead, compensate for your ship's mass and cargo, use the drift to your advantage and the like were all marks of a skilled player. By comparison, Auto Assault's physics are over-the-top arcade drek. Cars turn on a dime, cling to the ground like they're glued to it, and just don't really feel like cars.

    The game was never particularly optimized, either; it didn't look very good, but ran like a dog. Worst were the city zones. Oh, the city zones. In jumpgate, when you pulled into a space station, you were assumed to be out of your ship, but you did everything from the console at the station; there was no running-around-as-a-pilot-on-foot bit. For some reason I'll never understand, they added that to Auto Assault. And the character designs and animations were every bit as ugly and poorly done as Earth & Beyond's.

    Then there was the quest system. And the loot. And the very linear weapon upgrades. And the hideously expensive customization options. And the lack of a player base. And classes. Yes, the cars had classes.

    I'm not saying that AA was a bad game, it's just that all it really did was take a standard swords and sorcery MMO system and slap some (bad) post-apocalyptic graphics on it. Yeah, there were some cool and interesting powers, but it was the same shit we've all played time and time again, only at the free-Korean-MMO level of quality.

  • HarshLanguageHarshLanguage Registered User
    edited July 2007
    Yeah, in beta for AA I could see it was nothing new. A cliched MMO where the avatars were cars instead of people. (Except for the really bad city zones, as s3rial pointed out.) And the cars weren't even really the stars of the game... there was no garage to admire your own car collection, and in the field the cars were all small.

    And the loot... do people really enjoy collecting loads of near-identical items, comparing for minor stats differences, and tossing the remainder? And having to do it every few minutes? Maybe CoH has spoiled me, but I'm just not a "loot guy." Even Guild Wars' simplified loot system is more my style, so AA's system was overwhelming.

    I have to say, though, I thought the quests and the factions were pretty well-done, and the physics engine was pretty decent. Literally plowing through walls and other junk was fun. The weapon systems were nice too, and I thought the controls for guns and driving were good. The physics tuning was still off when I played it last, but it was getting better each revision.

    I wonder whether AA will be considered a failure for being too cliched or whether the industry thinks it was actually something different. I mean, I hope games execs are smart enough not to say "oh it had cars, so it wasn't like other MMOs".... but the cynic in me suspects otherwise.

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    Good start to the day. Pity it's going to be the worst one of your life. The light is now on.
  • CorvusCorvus Caw? VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Say, isn't NetDevil making that Lego MMO?

  • AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Ha, I saw copies of this at Big Lots the other day for $4.

    I remember playing the beta and thinking "What idoit thought it would be a good idea to make a CAR COMBAT GAME play like WoW?" The goo drops you had to "park" to eat to regain health was just, oh god, such a terrible idea. I bet the game would have done well if it had actually played up to the car combat strengths.

  • korodullinkorodullin What. Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    s3rial one wrote: »
    I was an absolute fanatic about Jumpgate.

    So when Auto Assault was announced, I was cautiously optimistic.

    What a disappointment.

    One of the great things about Jumpgate was its physics system; it wasn't arcadey in the slightest. It really separated the good pilots from the people with good reflexes. Being able to think ahead, compensate for your ship's mass and cargo, use the drift to your advantage and the like were all marks of a skilled player. By comparison, Auto Assault's physics are over-the-top arcade drek. Cars turn on a dime, cling to the ground like they're glued to it, and just don't really feel like cars.

    That was at once both the good and the bad thing about Jumpgate. Unless you had an extensive flight/space sim background and a pretty beefy joystick, you may as well not even apply.

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  • orpheusorpheus Registered User
    edited July 2007
    Auto Assault was one of the worst games I've ever played. As soon as my "scout" car was able to backstab other cars, I uninstalled the game and buried the harddrive it was on.

    But, if you are after mere parlor tricks, you will be sorely disappointed. For if I reach behind your ear, it will not be a nickel I pull out, but your very soul!
  • DavorDavor Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    yeah it was weird playing "classes" like a rogue or paladin that looked like a car. The jumps were fun though.

    Earth and Beyond was SO MUCH FUN in beta, then right before launch (IIRC) they nerfed how fast you leveled, and bam, snore city.

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